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Andrew412

They will throw because if they win they play against envy which is not the big problem here even though envy is a very good team lets say tsm wins they will have to play against sen second round so I am calling it tsm throw tmr to avoid sen as long as possible.

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Andrew412

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btw I am not saying envy is bad they are very good

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Netero

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Wardell said he doesn't care, just wanna win the tourney.

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Andrew412

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welp there lost then

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ILL

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Bro but y is wardell playing tarky again man ffs..

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JustEnjoying

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bro give him a break tarky was never the reason tsm was doing bad

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ILL

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Yea understandable

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EU_quiet

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U in a TSM flair is so funny...

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mAko

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he played tarky yesterday and still poppin

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Fire737

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But not a big difference even if they throw because xset and 100thieves aren’t much weaker than sentinels .TSM will play their best because they all want to match up against sentinels because of their rivalry

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xset and 100t are infinitely easier to antistrat than sentinels. getting matched up against nv is a death sentence cause then youll need to make a lower bracket run when sentinels beat you. lowers is where anything can happen so they wont try to win cause "rivalry". also there no rivalry between tsm and sentinels currently, and havent been for a long time now.

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Fire737

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No rivalry between tsm and Sen! I think you are living under a rock

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hellaeleganceyeah

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tsm has been knocked out of opens while sentinels has won both masters 1 and 2. such great rivalry lmao.

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Fire737

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Honestly do you know whats happening.

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hellaeleganceyeah

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what do you think is happening? tsm look on form. sentinels have been on form since first strike. if they play against eachother sentinels are the heavy favourites. where is the rivalry there, its just opponents like every other teams.

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Fire737

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“ Infinitely easier” kekw

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Sen is a lot better than 100t and xset

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Fire737

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All I know is t1 lost to tsm and faze.

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Lmao nice joke kid

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hellaeleganceyeah

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whoever loses only meets sentinels in upper finals where even if they lose they make berlin. this matchup is going to be a shitshow.

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Nycera

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yes but faze also want to lose

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hiyo

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nah WARDELL said envy or bust, they won't throw.

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Fire737

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And that “we can’t defeat sen” mindset is not healthy for any team .

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hellaeleganceyeah

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its also realistic and making it to berlin is more important so id say throw it away.

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Fire737

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Why do you want to make it to berlin because you want to win it .So in the long run it is extremely bad to have that mindset.

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hellaeleganceyeah

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making berlins means a there's a chance you make champions too without lcq. tsm has been in the dirt for the past year and need this comeback. if they make berlin then its a massive boost for them more that winning against sentinels (which is not happening this challengers playoffs) would ever give them.

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turkey

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bruh if they lose they play 100t even worse

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Tox1c

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This is so stupid Xset literally proved sen could be beaten. Abx did the same thing and other teams like bbg have beaten sen. You cant just say oh lets try to not play sen when you need to prove you can beat them to reach the top of NA. You dont play to not lose you play to win.

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kumi

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How can you deny that the 6-7th team seed will have an easier bracket? Any team in the world can beat sen, but its dumb to put yourself in a situtation where losing is more probable

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Zaynio

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TSM won't throw lol. They are quite confident they can take on the tournament and win. If they are going into the tournament with the mindset that they'll lose then they wouldn't be considered a top team right now.

TSM's greatest strengths lie in their confidence so it wouldn't make sense for them to avoid playing Envy and Sentinels.

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CherryCoke

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If tsm win.... the upper bracket will be way harder than the lower bracket

Sen
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lol one of those is the group of death, and its not hard to tell which one.

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mynameisEARL

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A fan with no faith to their team to win? Lol.

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if tsm wanna throw because of this, faze would throw too. so it could get funny since both sides wanna lose

tomorrow we will see a final match and the better throwing team will win lmao

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no wardell already said he wants to win the tourney and play envy