SEA Valo is dead

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solsolid

if the things going on at RRQ and Talon is true, SEA valo is dead. thanks to franchising, we gonna be punching bag just like in other esports.

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yooo you gotta chill bro, it's not even started yet

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why? What is happening with RRQ and Talon?

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2 orgs that reps thai and indo had pinoy players and both want to be full thai and full indo line up
But both orgs says no. Now we Filos are being blamed

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Ah ok. I think that a mix roster would not be so bad, you can sign the best player of more regions. But i think it's too soon to make this sort of speculations. Just wait the roster announcements and then we can see if they could make a better decision

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the thing is TH and ID players have performed way better the whole last year compared to PH.

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solsolid

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https://www.vlr.gg/146314/rrq-roster

https://www.vlr.gg/146375/rip-thailand

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I am european so i dont know much about Apac Esports situation. But I think that having a mix roster is not a bad idea. I understand that it would be nice to have a representative team of your country with a roster made up of five players from that country, but I don't find it wrong to try to create a good mix with high level players. In Europe it has always been like this, there are few teams that have players all from the same country

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It's okay if the players are mixed. But hopefully they get the best non-indo players. It would be weird if they choose non indo player but there are better indo players available.

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the thing on SEA is, language barrier is huge since only few have good english, even on PRX, minfreak said they have a hard time early on bc they can't communicate very well. And on SEA, nation pride is huge too, it won't do with mixed roster

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i think a mixed roster eventually will be good because of the larger talent pool but right now the language barrier is really big and right now the teams being assigned countries that they should represent gives the country and the players and fanbase guaranteed representation on the international stage. also the rivalries between countries in sea is pretty big and people just would rather see superteams. i think riot going to the path of mixed rosters in the first year of partnerships is might kinda be a move that is out of touch with the sea community because it can screw over a lot of the representation

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yawns

It’s not dead…APAC even has 10 domestic leagues and I think like half are SEA. You’ll be fine

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solsolid

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2 of best SEA countries in valo might be gone to shits on T1 due to the orgs that represent them. it's concerning

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Could cause some concerning factors but, SEA is very much alive & growing.

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literally if these mixed rosters are actually made, we will stay a one team region forever, literally the only good mixed team is PRX, RRQ should go full info superteam, literally lmemore-flipjider-blazeking-tethbotle plus another good Indo player would make a world class team but for some reason they just don't wanna be at the top, which is sad

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Idk, i think it's to soon to attack them. We need to wait for more specific information

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Why'd you need worried that much? Another team will ascension and kick these 2 poor orgs tho.

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solsolid

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bc i want to see my region starts off strong, like how it'd most likely be on other regions

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This unknown RRQ was RIOT'S WORST CHOICE.... seeing that BOOM, MiTH, Alter Ego, Bren, Bleed & others were left out for RRQ to be franchised is at least absurd

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yeah i agree, I still can't understand how Bleed didn't make it

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I still can't understand how Bleed didn't make it

They literally didn't apply

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Wtf seriously?

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https://twitter.com/BLEEDM8/status/1571812007346864128?s=20&t=bT5hSZLK6P8j63ZUee0FDw

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You don't even no the meaning of dead region until you have been an OCE believer

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better than OCE kekw

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Talk about paranoia, jeez. Y'all are overreacting.

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Tru. Idk why RRQ and Talon wants ph players so bad in their rosters. We rarely have good and even decent players here compared to other SEA regions.

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Talon is going to represent Thailand ffs, they literally announced it. RRQ, I assume, wants to honor and try to give their PH players chances. Their PH team just won a local LAN, right?