IEM Cologne x Iceland Masters

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supernova

Masters: https://escharts.com/tournaments/valorant/vct-2021-stage-2-masters-reykjavik
Peak: 1 085 527
Average: 488 276

IEM Cologne: https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2021
Peak: 835 533
Average: 234 492

Fun fact: Shroud didn't reach 100k viewers, less viewers than KRU x Crazy Raccoon in his stream.

Not even close OMEGALUL

Kneel down for the best and biggest FPS ever!!!

Now with no big tournaments for the next month, CSGO is back to its average of 30k viewers. LMAO

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kekw

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...whats next, u wanna make a vlr vs hltv thread next?

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hltv>all

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mattgg2015

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add in pokimane, ludwig, and the rest of the costreamers carrying the valorant scene to Cologne and it would be equal

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valorant is marketing well and spreading their audience, something valve and their tournament organizers are not pushing for. also, csgo is not appealing for those type of streamers because it is not very friendly for someone who is say 13 years old

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mattgg2015

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its not a good thing for an esports' viewership to rely on costreamers, what if Shroud can't costream a tournament, the viewership is gonna drop by 200k?

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but it doesnt rely on costreams, poeple just preffer it over mainstream

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hekzy

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That's untrue. NSG has 30k viewers for most of the closed quali matches regardless of shroud streaming or not. Those viewers do not reroute, otherwise whenever shroud didn't stream, the main stream would get 100k more viewers, which mever happens.

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they go to other co streamers wdym, off course some people ar ethere because of shorud but its his usual audience of 30k maybe, of wich a certain percentage would watch it anyways so its arouind 20-30k he really boosts

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No, I remember distinctly everytime that Shroud isn't streaming that NSG is not actually pulling in those Shroud numbers, just the overall viewership dips by a lot. I remember a GenG Vs IMT game which would probably get 50k for shroud and 30k for NSG. Well, shroud wasn't streaming and NSG still got 30k.

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During this challengers, shroud didn't even co-stream some matches and views were still 220k+ for just open and also once valo main channel had 70k views shroud started co stream 1h later shroud had 50k valo 20k so i mean if shroud doesn't stream most ppl gonna watch main channel

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Dont really care about cs vs valorant. But like all those streamers combined isn't even like 50k

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other than shroud everyone else had less than 10k

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most of those viewers would just relocate to shrouds or the main stream. Obviously it might be like 10-20k less but not even close to that much

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pokimane and ludwig hardly streamed it and when they did it was like 10k max

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https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/eleague-major-2017
1 331 781. And next CSGO major this year has 2 million prizepool

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Wait for champions

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...

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okayy

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it was 2017 maybe the 2021 major will get 800k....

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L

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wizardbot

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No way youre this obsessed hahahahaha

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Icebu

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This is my job

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lol
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-katowice-2020-csgo IEM 2020 G2vsNavi Final
1 002 132 viewers
https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-cologne-2021 IEM 2021 G2vsNavi Final
839 884 viewers (with costreams)
The numbers speak for themselves

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In 2020 there was a YouTube stream.

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Masters Air time: 52 hours
Cologne Air Time: 94 hours

Of course the average would be low but u are to dumb to undestand it.

CS: 8 year old game, cologne not major, just ONE co stream = peak 835k

Valorant: First LAN, first INTERNATIONAl, EU x NA finals, entire twitch co-streaming it (like 30+), 1 year old game, RIOT SPONSORED event = 1.085m

LOL

The real game will be the Champions of Valorant vs Major of CS, and not in this year, but in the next four.

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actual intellectual take

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https://escharts.com/tournaments/csgo/iem-katowice-2020-csgo
64 hours and only 279k average viewers ...
The CSGO will never have a high average not because of the hours, but because the games that are not the last ones dont interest anyone

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No, because CS it`s already an stable esport, people already choose a team to support.

Valorant everyone watch everything because is new, people havent choose their favorite team yet... this will come with time.

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Valorant wont see a peak like they did in Reykjavik until their Champions event, because everyone wanted to see how Valorant was as an esport. It was essentially their first event, after all. Some people who tuned in to the finals will realise maybe Valorant isn't for them, or will lose interest in the time between Iceland and Berlin.

Like me, as an example, I was extremely hyped (even more than cologne tbh) to watch Iceland and I saw every single game. But I lost interest quickly the following month because there was like nothing to watch. And re-watching some of the matches now I never realised how bad the meta was. The combination of those two just made me lose interest for valorants pro scene and now i'm watching cs again, more than ever

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Ms

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Esl have run 3 games at the same time of course average gonna be low.

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it had 5 twitch streamers, not sure why you keep lying

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Riot had like 30 co-streams, compare viewers without co-streams, cs will get more viewers

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Aris

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30 co-streams they had 5 https://twitter.com/valesports_na/status/1395443203331870721

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skerett

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Nah, they were way more, i remember turkishs streamers/ kr or japanase streamers and more

Someone buy the esport charts Pro version, to see the channels who streamed it , u will see

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so the co stream viewers just wouldnt watch the event or what?? lmaaaooo

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Ms

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Only like 150k differences without cologne having YouTube stream and 6 big streamer. LuL

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Interestingly, even with IEM having 50% more hours streamed, Masters 2 still had 3 million more hours watched.

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These baits get worse and worse
1st event for Valorant vs just another event for CS.
We'll see if Valorant can hold viewership over the next decade.

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LMFAOO so much CS fanboy cope in this thread.
After 1 Year Val already getting better viewership than CS for big LANs.

"Wait till Major"
Wait till Champions!

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you're a retard lol

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PrTsty

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he's right tho

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Neon74

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0iq threads
0iq site
no way this site has the most retarded people xD

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Aris

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what are u doing because you're sitting on this site and you're actually just talking shit about valorant and saying that CSGO is better, yes with all the hackers, it's better, don't you have something better to do? we get it dude u like csgo go to hltv

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Neon74

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oh man and you're sitting here making threads about CS, don't you have something better to do? hltv 100x better than this site anyway, this site is just a dumb copy that sucks
So yeah I will go, cya!

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Goodnight bro
Love u too

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Aris

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u have a sad life unlucky

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Champions had amazing viewership compared to the major!

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cs is so a dead game

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Neon74

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thats why it has more players than valorant huh
dumbass

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go back to hltv ur community was crying during iceland also go cry with them

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Icebu

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hltv, the better version of this website? vlr.gg looks like hltv from 2005 lmfaoooo

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Aris

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ok and?

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Aris

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Registered: July 18, 2021 man just go back to hltv like we dont care LOL

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Icebu

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used this website a lot but never made an account lol, until i saw like 8 threads with kids trashtalking cs for no good reason because they had an event lmfao

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Aris

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ofc we had one big event if the game is 1 year old and it had 1,1 mill watching and new evreyone who hate valorant come to this site everyone came to this site to get rid of all the upset because cs had 800k people watching and not 2/1mil watching

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what? no hate but hltv looks like shit, its too chaotic

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then you look at any viewrship in outside Iceland or when Shroud is not co-streaming.
Literally dead.

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tbf there was a really long group stage in cologne which def tanked the average viewers