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No hate on dapr but out of the group stage games, I only watched Sentinels play against Cloud9 and EG so it's hard for me to understand how dapr is 'still nuts' considering how he had little to no impact in both those series from a spectator point of view whilst also being on the low end of every metric in the group stages in totality.
hes doing okay on chamber, and his team is literally lost the whole game
a) If meta shifts and lets him get back on cypher/kj hes going to do better individually
b) He has no team or strats to play around, so hes stuck on "what can I do to stop initial pushes" and "I hope my entry/initiators can take site to make my flank setups or posts plants worth it"
It doesn't really make sense to say "if meta shifts to X, then he'll be a good player" as justification to why dapr is currently a good player. The same it wouldn't make sense to say Subroza is one of the best players in the game currently because "if meta shifted to Phoenix, then he'll be a good player". It also doesn't really make sense to make guesses about what's going on internally in the team to justify why he's not performing great, because at the end of the day; they're guesses and trying to use them as a legitimate reason is baseless. He isn't doing okay on Chamber as well - the average Chamber KD in both the EMEA and NA group stages is close to 1.25 and dapr has a negative KD overall even including non-group stage games. I like dapr and I think he is a decent player, but by no metric is he still a great player in the scene.
Yeah but when the meta has shifted from him being able to play traditional sentinel to Chamber, which is not at all played in the style and role that he is good at, its a little different.
Subroza played Phoenix as a flasher, Phoenix no longer good so he moved to other flashes.
SEN wont put TenZ or Shahzam who are the primary oppers on Chamber, which leaves the Sentinel player to play OP and win aim duels instead of his normal role, and puts the flex on traditional sentinel.
So Im not saying hes bad, Im saying that he is not playing his role per the meta.
Also, Subroza is the same player now that he has always been, meta independent.
The whole team is broken, they cant figure out roles, and he still does his job.
Hes not yay, hes not cryo, and he shouldnt be compared to them because he isnt on the team to do their job.
NONE of the other sentinel players got moved to chamber, it was all of the oppers/jetts and dapr, thats why he doesnt play like them, its not what hes on the team to do.
They can force it all they want, but its a misallocation of resources on the team side and doesnt make him a worse player
"The whole team is broken, they cant figure out roles, and he still does his job." - What exactly is his job? Because Chamber's main value to a team is being able to get kills, his whole kit is too - and he is one of the worst at doing so on the agent.
"Hes not yay, hes not cryo, and he shouldnt be compared to them because he isnt on the team to do their job." - Why shouldn't you compare him to yay and cryo when they're playing the same agent and role when he's playing chamber?
"NONE of the other sentinel players got moved to chamber, it was all of the oppers/jetts and dapr, thats why he doesnt play like them, its not what hes on the team to do." - What does it matter that he wasn't an OP/Jett before he swapped to Chamber?
"They can force it all they want, but its a misallocation of resources on the team side and doesnt make him a worse player" - So you can't judge dapr's Chamber because you don't think he should play Chamber? Pretty sure you're saying you think he's THAT bad of a Chamber that he just shouldn't be on it at all.
My brother in Christ, the original reply said that hes BAD
not bad on chamber, but BAD
He is not a bad player, he is not as good on Chamber as the Jett players, but he is not a bad player
You are fucking dense and dont even know what point you are arguing.
He is not the best Chamber in NA, any org with a brain would have left him on his role and put someone else on Chamber, but to discredit him as a player overall for this is a braindead fucking take and you are an imbecile for being unable to comprehend it.
Keep typing, I wont read it
Sure you could come at it from several angles if your objective is to only hate on him
But the fact remains that he's still a good player but needs a better team. Yes he has the worst stats of all chamber players but that's because he has a very different playstyle than those players. Those people you're comparing him to are just Jett players. And it's not his fault they're putting him on chamber instead of tenz or shahzam
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