100T icebox comp

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sampenn1

Im just wondering how much impact do u guys think the sageless comp on icebox for 100t affected there perfomance on that map, and do u guys still think sage is a must have on icebox?

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idk why 100t runs omen when they have viper lmao and i dont see point of runnin killjoy when u have viper since u can play viper like a sentinel

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viper is like a secondary controller better have omen/astra for creating more space on big maps like icebox and breeze. single viper works on small maps like bind

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ihitthat

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nope most teams runs viper/omen on bind but only viper on icebox eg, (sen,xset,c9, envy + more other teams)

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Sage isn't a "must" cuz her wall is predictable. All teams use it for blocking a route or making a block for planting. We saw walls getting countered already by T1 teams very soon other teams will also make lineups to counter wall plants

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sampenn1

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yeah but we saw constantly that 100t couldnt ever plant b. SO many times they had yellow control, the second they plant they get spammed, to the point where they just stood there for 30 seconds trying to plant before rotating.

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Well even if they had a sage wall the plant they would get spammed anyway. Most of the rounds they attacked B without orange or kitchen control. SEN had sage still they lost map control

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Kilobyte

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nah I would say sage wall is very essential to planting at B since it's pretty much a deathtrap to plant there without cover
even though it's predictable , it's necessary in my opinion

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It's true that icebox has less room for planting and sage can give easy cover for 400 cred but meta just can't stick to same thing long enough. Gotta bring up new strats or get counter stratted easily

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Shanty

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Wonder what Riot plans to change with IceBox now that they announced they are working on changes. Something similar to how they changed Split maybe.

I really like Icebox, but parts I would like to see changed are slight changes to B site. So Sage is still and option for teams, but make it so if you don’t bring a Sage you aren’t just at a massive disadvantage trying to plant B.

Another thing which I doubt will happen. Is forcing teams starting out to have to going down the ramp, especially on attacking side. Can really suck sometimes when a player is just sitting all the way at the back of spawn with an Op so they’re hard to see, and kill you the instant you peak. Just can be really hard to scan that much area with your eyes when a enemies just sitting there waiting for you to either come from A mid or B. It isn’t not a huge issue, but something I would be happy to see changed.

As the last thing it’s really just B long. I don’t think it’s bad. I just think it can be better. Like how you can jump on top of the shipping containers. Maybe make it to attacks can go right on top of green box at the beginning if they choice. Who’s knows, I don’t know how this would all play out. I think A site for the most part is OK after the changes they made to the map after launch. The changes they did to Split were really well done and turned it into a fun map for me. And it was a pretty extensive rework, basically everywhere but Mailroom on the map had some kind of change.