another roster changes another honeymoon
how long this roster will be alive?
rn they seems #1 EMEA team by far
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this fnatic looks considerably stornger than the one with Braveaf and magnum even tho i liked those players a lot.
I mean, now, they have this dude who's in the same caliber of Derke, in the frag department. they look so strong, I mean, second week sraight they are the top 2 players stats wise, in the whole tournament. lol
Also, might not be seen as flashy as alfa but Enzo seem to be bringing a much better awareness mid round to the team.
Even their mental seems stronger like, if they lose 4 or 5 rounds in a row, they don't lose their shit immediately.
as a fnc fan, this roster is the best one yet
Honeymoon only happens when bad players overperform. Alfajers aim won't go away anytime soon and he is a star player alongside Derke so no honeymoon. Enzo does excatly what he already did on other teams same with Boaster and Mystic. Team is not overperforming but performing normally therefore no honeymoon. Also firm this L.
Honeymoon is period of time for new team when everything is clicking and working like you planned. Fnatic always fall off when everyone understand how they are playing (just like robots with scripts). Its not about aim, its about their approach(same like drx have)
To be the best team you need to be good in long term, have ability to adapt and deal with problems and hard times, not to just dominate first 5-7 games
Which solutions fnatic make if they have problems? Roster changes. Sounds very long-term oriented
Fnatic cicle: dominate first games -> scripts stop working -> roster change , repeat
Fnatic's recent dominance has come from playing in a way that opens up the space for their two star players.
Their mid-round calling has been immaculate, especially on defense, and have a near-perfect read of their opponents.
Roster changes have been made for the first time in December with their inner culture in mind, and after that they have been forced into making another one. The only roster changes that were their decision due to team's inefficiency were Doma and Magnum (reasonable ones at that).
The biggest critique of Fnatic's performance was the lack of raw frag power since Doma's departure. So they got a cracked player with better utility usage. Mistic was put back on a role he can be more efficient at and Boaster can more comfortably give calls on controller duty. The only missing piece was a very smart and passive player for info gathering they found in Enzo (Alfajer).
Even if they perform worse than they are currently, your "take" is just unreasonable and borderline wrong.
With all due respect - L
Well i hope they can continue show their best as you, don't get me wrong. If emea will have 1 more stable top team its only better for us
I still gonna be sceptical to fnatic until they really will win something, its just the same way how stage 1 started for me, people hyped guild so much on start, but they fell off in playoff, people hyped fnatic, but with the same roster they won group stage they were 13-0ed and 3-0ed
When exactly did last Fnc roster gor bad? I don't consider iceland, and they played bad against G2 and fpx in playoffs but that had more to do with them mentally. Mini coach said that team got too cocky after qualifying and didn't prepare the same way and hence they played that bad, don't add honeymoon period untill you can prove your point
I already wrote this on the last week on some thread here:
Is not fnatic always starts good and then hardly fell off?
↗️2nd in First Strike and didn't qualified to EU Masters after it ↘️
↗️2nd in Masters 2 and then didn't qualified to EMEA 2↘️
↗️1st seed in group D on Champions and lost to KRU↘️
↗️1st seed in Group Stage EMEA 2022 and fell off in playoff (0-13) to last place in Masters 1 2022 ↘️
↗️Probably now first seed in Group A and will fall again↘️, but hopefully they can continue to be as strong as they are right now as long as its possible
Kinda roller coaster
And always their peak form only after roster change. -First strike -dikzj+tsack
-Stage 2 2021 -tsack-moe+derke+magnum
-Chanpions: Didnt played halfyear in VCT and officials vs any T1 teams (only vs Liquid on Red Bull), so no one knew how they are really playing rn
Stage 1 2022: -doma+braveaf
Stage 2 2022: -braveaf -magnum +enzo + alfajer
What is this If not honeymoon?
But its just my thoughts, maybe im completely wrong :)
lets not talk about iceland 2021, the changes they made were needed for the team and you can call it honeymoon i dont care. they lost to kru but that wasnt a part of honeymoon, fnatic improved(without roster changes) after not qualifying for berlin and hence defeated c9 and vs, their loss to kru, many people forget was after they threw their lead on haven which they could've potentially closed out at 2-0 lost. who knows if there was lower bracket what could've happened but i can agree fnc lost but didnt necessarily mean they were on honeymoon initially and then lost later in the tournament. people keep forgetting that fnc lost to fpx and g2 on a new patch, and its often not the easiest of job to be willing to work that hard after defeating m3c in a 23-21 split and 2-1 series and already making iceland. i think fnc lost soley because of the new patch and effectively weak prep by their side and not cause their honeymoon suddenly stopped one day
Tbh im glad that you noticed that they lost from winnable score to kru, because this is literally their problem soo far
I knew some impressions from players who played vs FNC and some opinion from them is that they are very very readable with a matter of time. Even Derke in interview to Thorin said that they are very hard relying on their scripts like robots
They can have lead score but they kinda choke all times because teams just adapt to their playstyle and scripts even during the map. Some maps vs Sen in iceland were with lead, in stage 3 VCT EU same(vs G2 and etc), vs C9 they were like 11-7 and then made it to OT lul and KRU as you noticed.
The reason why they were successful at champions i think its because they had element of surprise (their fracture for example) noone really knew how they gonna play because they didnt played vs any T1 team officials on a serious mode for a halfyear, but still it was very hard for them even with defaults that they never showed before, isnt it?
I think this is why they force to make roster changes, because its mb for a time but it makes them hard to read until everyone will adapt again
Maybe im wrong this is just how i see it
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