Skyesports Champions Series Group B

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FIreFistOM

If the H2H rules are same as in EMEA, Velocity will take the first seed in Group B

VLT, OG and FPG are tied in terms of series wins so the seeds are decided on 3way H2H map wins

first VLT is 3-2 (+1)
VLT vs OG: 2-0
VLT vs FPG: 1-2

OG is 2-2 (+0)
OG vs VLT: 0-2
OG vs FPG: 2-0

FPG is 2-3(-1)
FPG vs VLT: 2-1
FPG vs OG: 0-2

So VLT comes at first place according to H2H

VLR website shows ranking according to round differentials but that would be third option if they were also tied H2H as show by this twwet for reckoning esports
https://twitter.com/ReckoningIndia/status/1528634031684096000

Also if it was H2H round Differential, VLT still comes first
VLT is 57-50 (+7)
vs OG : 13-8 ,13-9 (26-17)
vs FPG : 9-13,13-7,9-13 (31-33)

OG is 43-41 (+2)
vs VLT: 8-13,9-13 (17-26)
vs OG: 13-9,13-6 (26-15)

FPG is 48-57 (-9)
vs OG: 9-13,6-13 (15-26)
vs VLT: 13-9,7-13,13-9 (33-31)

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wizardbot

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H2H map count isnt being considered, only H2H result is being considered in SCS. After H2H result, round differential is being considered thats why OGT is 1st seed

#3

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from what i know that is what head2head result is in a 3 way tie. VLT is +1 in H2H

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wizardbot

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Skyesports is using H2H only for a two way tie I think, like if only OGT and VLT were tied for points then VLT would have been first seed because they won against OGT. But in case of a three way tie, theyre considering round differential instead of map differential

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AhsanX

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Round differential matters when there is a 3-way tie. H2H only matters when there is a 2-way tie. OGT is +59 now. And VLT is +32 rn, even if they get +26, then that's still +58. So OG get first seed.

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FIreFistOM

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https://www.vlr.gg/69009/natus-vincere-vs-funplus-phoenix-champions-tour-stage-1-emea-challengers-week-4
during this match the desk said liquid will be out if Navi Wins Liquid will be out since it would be 3 way tie between Liquid ,FPX and Navi
If navi won 2-0 H2H would be
Liquid : 2-3(-1)
FPX : 2-2 (0)
Navi : 3-2(+1)

If navi won 2-0 H2H would be
Liquid : 2-3(-1)
FPX : 3-2 (+1)
Navi : 2-2(0)

So liquid were out if navi won that.
But navi Lost and there was no tie so we could not see this situation.

So H2H happens even in 3 way tie

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wizardbot

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But thats for emea, not for scs. Different places different rules

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FIreFistOM

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if its H2H round differential, VLT still comes first as
VLT is +7
OG is +2
FPG is -9

in H2H round differentials

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wizardbot

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Overall round differential is counted, not the round differential bw the three teams.

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AhsanX

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Bruh this is SA, not EMEA

#15

FIreFistOM

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i am saying H2H occur even in 3 way tie, and if its H2H round differential VLT still wins see post above your comment

#16

LOLacademy

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didnt the tweet link say its 1. Series wins

Head-2-head outcome
Round difference
and your dumbass still thinks its round differential lmao

#18

FIreFistOM

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I mean there is still a chance that instead skyesports Admins are not that bright and instead just go with overall Round differential because 3 way H2H is too much thinking.

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TMosura

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As far as we are informed, it's H2H > H2H round difference. Nothing confirmed.

#7

sWan10_exe

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http://scs.skyesports.in/rules/ rulebook
its too hard to read
its like a terms and conditions page

#8

sWan10_exe

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@TMosura

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wizardbot

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Do these guys not know formatting holy fk what the hell is that

#10

sWan10_exe

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ikr
the nodwin one was far better

#17

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there is literally nothing about tie breaker rule in there.

#20

SnooTangerines

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The page on VLR is correct.

Orangutan is the first seed from group B from what skyesports has clarified so far.

The preference is -
1) highest score (based on matches won)
2) Head to head result (not head to head map differential)
3) Round difference.

FPX beating VLT with a 2-1 score and VLT beating OG with a 2-0 is equivalent. There is a 3-way tie.

Since all the teams won 4 and lost 1 game are tied from the first criteria.

VLT beat OG, OG beat FPX and FPX beat VLT so they are also tied.

Finally, OG had very clean games and dominated each and every team except velocity with which they had much closer games.

So by round difference, OG is the first seed.

Skyesports has said that the rules are similar to EMEA group stages, however, they are not exactly the same. Both Nodwin's VCC and skyesports SCS don't follow the exact same rules as VCT.