From what we have seen across all the international stages:
in terms of impact, consistency, well-roundedness, and ability to take over the round/game.
edit: I think ScreaM could actually replace leaf here as well based off his performances at the last two Reykjavik events alone. Maybe even put him #3 and bump the rest down.
https://imgur.com/a/sC3JNow
I will mention though that I think F0rsaken and Jing both have the potential to be on this list but there was a limited sample size with only the last Master's event. I think Aspas was more impactful for his team as he was the only duelist but they split the responsibilities.
I think they are the best duo, however.
Chovymaker [#2]1- yay
2- cNed
3- Cryo
4- Derke
5- leaf
Yay played Chamber, and likely will continue moving forward. So I was removed him from consideration. But by impact in past events, I would put him number 2, because I feel Derke is a little more long-standing and well-rounded (can flex to other duelists like raze)
trembolonaRage [#12]i love how people keep mentioning aspas (who have like 5 games as a pro player) and forgets heat lmao
Ikr aspas is great but heat is a fucking demon. Just had rough time stage 1
GLN321 [#4]Where is the goat botwell
Best Oper in NA, unproven internationally, and with the meta shift, you can consider him basically a chamber main.
I think Yay is the best Chamber in NA still but Wardell does give him a solid run. Wardell just needs a team on the same caliber and to make it to an international even before we can draw better comparisons
trembolonaRage [#12]i love how people keep mentioning aspas (who have like 5 games as a pro player) and forgets heat lmao
Yeah there is some recency bias in this list. I think Aspas helped bring his team further than heat though so I would rank him higher.
Heat is insane though, almost as much as your boy mwzera on Raze back in the day (and hopefully soon once more?!)
trembolonaRage [#12]i love how people keep mentioning aspas (who have like 5 games as a pro player) and forgets heat lmao
aspas literally diffs heat in every duelist and has put better stats
Ur just butthurt bro
LordJJJ [#5]I will mention though that I think F0rsaken and Jing both have the potential to be on this list but there was a limited sample size with only the last Master's event. I think Aspas was more impactful for his team as he was the only duelist but they split the responsibilities.
I think they are the best duo, however.
F0rsaken should be top 5 imo. Jingg needs F0rsaken to open up rounds for him to find the amount of impact that he does. F0rsaken stats are just so absurd though. He finds an insane amount of impact for someone always taking the first fight in a round.
LordJJJ [#16]Best Oper in NA, unproven internationally, and with the meta shift, you can consider him basically a chamber main.
I think Yay is the best Chamber in NA still but Wardell does give him a solid run. Wardell just needs a team on the same caliber and to make it to an international even before we can draw better comparisons
who tf is wardell, I'm taking about my lord and savior g2 mixwell
trembolonaRage [#12]i love how people keep mentioning aspas (who have like 5 games as a pro player) and forgets heat lmao
The difference is that Aspas is like if you combined Mwzera and heat. Aspas is insane on both raze and jett.
commonW [#14]every list that has tenz in the top 10 is wrong
He was the reason SEN won Iceland last year with the top ACS, K/D, and FK/FD ratio.
Overall he still has the highest peak of any duelist at any international event so far. So I don't think you can justify not including him, but that is just my opinion.
V0sotros [#25]TenZ is not a top 3 duelist anymore, he’s a Jett one trick that is at a similar skill level to much more flexible players
names?
LordJJJ [#23]He was the reason SEN won Iceland last year with the top ACS, K/D, and FK/FD ratio.
Overall he still has the highest peak of any duelist at any international event so far. So I don't think you can justify not including him, but that is just my opinion.
I am actually sleeping a bit on Scream here. Just graphed Iceland ACS and K/D and he has been extremely consistent for both these events. But TenZ was actually a different beast last year at this event.
https://imgur.com/a/sC3JNow
trembolonaRage [#12]i love how people keep mentioning aspas (who have like 5 games as a pro player) and forgets heat lmao
Aspas is great, he is more flexible than Heat, but in skill level Heat is a beast
GLN321 [#20]who tf is wardell, I'm taking about my lord and savior g2 mixwell
oh lol, he is not even close as a duelist on the international stage. Maybe back in 2020 but not at any international events
GLN321 [#20]who tf is wardell, I'm taking about my lord and savior g2 mixwell
trashdell vs trashwell
who wins?
Ashh [#26]names?
I'd argue that yay and leaf are better than him just in NA, and Cned as a jett one trick is far better
Kiko [#34]trashdell vs trashwell
who wins?
trashwell uses bench keloqz! it's super effective! (yes i know it was nukkye who got G2 to bench keloqz)
trembolonaRage [#12]i love how people keep mentioning aspas (who have like 5 games as a pro player) and forgets heat lmao
trembolonaRage W
trembolonaRage [#12]i love how people keep mentioning aspas (who have like 5 games as a pro player) and forgets heat lmao
Waiiiiitttt didn’t heat suck cause he was a Jett abuser?
Aspas owned not just on Jett but also on raze, so by your metrics aspas>>>>>heat
number1_ScreaM_fan [#44]no ScreaM?
top 1 acs masters 1 2022
top 2 acs masters 2 2021
top 5 acs champions 2021ScreaM has been consistent all year round
Edit: good he deserves at least top 3
No real results though...Liquid is always chomping at the bit, never feasting.
ScreaM is a player that performs well, but still doesn't put up high enough numbers to push his team over the edge in bigger games.
LordJJJ [#27]I am actually sleeping a bit on Scream here. Just graphed Iceland ACS and K/D and he has been extremely consistent for both these events. But TenZ was actually a different beast last year at this event.
https://imgur.com/a/sC3JNow
He is talking about now. Not 1 year ago. Things have changed . The meta has changed. A single player cannot win you the whole game . Look at optic: crashies so good marved ohh mmmyyy god . Yay too superb and victor too much frustrating for the enemy team and fns the strategies and also got some clutches. That's why the team won. Not like that. And tenz is nothing compared to yay and other players. For sure
Chovymaker [#2]1- yay
2- cNed
3- Cryo
4- Derke
5- leaf
i dont get it, cryo has never been on lan how is he higher than derke and leaf it doesnt make any sense
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