Strafe7 [#2]zeta looked way worse when they were playing nip. Zeta started to actually look like a good team against G2
thats fair
I would say when talking about region’s generally? I think a fair breakdown would be:
But that is just my opinion :)
trembolonaRage [#4]EU
NA
BR
NA
BR
APAC
JP
EU
edit: KEKW EMEA fans downvoting because they know their region is washed as fuck. so sad!
redding [#7]I would say when talking about region’s generally? I think a fair breakdown would be:
- EMEA (consistent top finishes and masters wins in 2021)
- NA (Early year dominance and high finishes in Masters 2021 -minus Champions of course + this Masters)
- SEA (Major improvements throughout 2021 plus showed real skill in Champions and this Masters + they have multiple teams doing well)
- BRAZIL (Obviously LOUD is absolutely insane, but as a region I think LOUD are tiers above their competitors in BR similar to situation in KR with DRX.)
- KOREA/JP (KR is a one team region but who knows with the rest of the year. We will see how OnSlayers does. But JP was majorly impressive this Masters. However, they look like a 1 team region too)
But that is just my opinion :)
This is fair enough.
redding [#7]I would say when talking about region’s generally? I think a fair breakdown would be:
- EMEA (consistent top finishes and masters wins in 2021)
- NA (Early year dominance and high finishes in Masters 2021 -minus Champions of course + this Masters)
- SEA (Major improvements throughout 2021 plus showed real skill in Champions and this Masters + they have multiple teams doing well)
- BRAZIL (Obviously LOUD is absolutely insane, but as a region I think LOUD are tiers above their competitors in BR similar to situation in KR with DRX.)
- KOREA/JP (KR is a one team region but who knows with the rest of the year. We will see how OnSlayers does. But JP was majorly impressive this Masters. However, they look like a 1 team region too)
But that is just my opinion :)
I'd say underrating KR/JP and overrating SEA. Problem with KR/JP is that they have one team that they send out lol, ofc they won't have multiple teams doing well internationally. VS have just always had a shitty group stage or did better than most of APAC though usually, and if you want to go off of improvement, JP are the most improved, from masters 1-3 u can see CR and ZETA just getting so much better.
I'd honestly go with EMEA, NA, BR, SEA, KR/JP.
I think the judgement that KR/JP are one team regions is kinda dumb bc they literally can only bring out one team, and for the majority of JP's history, they haven't been a one team region. KR are also are definitely not a one team region, Nuturn bringing down VS and just Damwon, ONS, TNL, I don't think KR are a one team region anymore.
Or more like EMEA, NA, BR, KR, SEA, JP, LATAM, SA. KR just had an unfortunate Masters this time imo.
Asphyxia [#12]I'd say underrating KR/JP and overrating SEA. Problem with KR/JP is that they have one team that they send out lol, ofc they won't have multiple teams doing well internationally. VS have just always had a shitty group stage or did better than most of APAC though usually, and if you want to go off of improvement, JP are the most improved, from masters 1-3 u can see CR and ZETA just getting so much better.
I'd honestly go with EMEA, NA, BR, SEA, KR/JP.
I think the judgement that KR/JP are one team regions is kinda dumb bc they literally can only bring out one team, and for the majority of JP's history, they haven't been a one team region. KR are also are definitely not a one team region, Nuturn bringing down VS and just Damwon, ONS, TNL, I don't think KR are a one team region anymore.
Or more like EMEA, NA, BR, KR, SEA, JP, LATAM, SA. KR just had an unfortunate Masters this time imo.
Ppl are gonna say I'm on the hard copium, but I think KR is not a one team region, at least not anymore. And if we are going only off of Masters results, I still don't think this is a fair assessment.
Asphyxia [#13]Ppl are gonna say I'm on the hard copium, but I think KR is not a one team region, at least not anymore. And if we are going only off of Masters results, I still don't think this is a fair assessment.
Yeah i can feel that KR is not 1team region, i hope next they will add kr/jp lcq and we can see who is dominating
Asphyxia [#13]Ppl are gonna say I'm on the hard copium, but I think KR is not a one team region, at least not anymore. And if we are going only off of Masters results, I still don't think this is a fair assessment.
I mean we can only send 1 team like you mentioned so i hurts me when i see ppl calling us 1 team regionn :(
redding [#7]I would say when talking about region’s generally? I think a fair breakdown would be:
- EMEA (consistent top finishes and masters wins in 2021)
- NA (Early year dominance and high finishes in Masters 2021 -minus Champions of course + this Masters)
- SEA (Major improvements throughout 2021 plus showed real skill in Champions and this Masters + they have multiple teams doing well)
- BRAZIL (Obviously LOUD is absolutely insane, but as a region I think LOUD are tiers above their competitors in BR similar to situation in KR with DRX.)
- KOREA/JP (KR is a one team region but who knows with the rest of the year. We will see how OnSlayers does. But JP was majorly impressive this Masters. However, they look like a 1 team region too)
But that is just my opinion :)
Nope that was last year we are talk8ng currently and emea is not that good rn
Asphyxia [#12]I'd say underrating KR/JP and overrating SEA. Problem with KR/JP is that they have one team that they send out lol, ofc they won't have multiple teams doing well internationally. VS have just always had a shitty group stage or did better than most of APAC though usually, and if you want to go off of improvement, JP are the most improved, from masters 1-3 u can see CR and ZETA just getting so much better.
I'd honestly go with EMEA, NA, BR, SEA, KR/JP.
I think the judgement that KR/JP are one team regions is kinda dumb bc they literally can only bring out one team, and for the majority of JP's history, they haven't been a one team region. KR are also are definitely not a one team region, Nuturn bringing down VS and just Damwon, ONS, TNL, I don't think KR are a one team region anymore.
Or more like EMEA, NA, BR, KR, SEA, JP, LATAM, SA. KR just had an unfortunate Masters this time imo.
Yeah the reason I said “one team region” is because DRX absolutely demolished in their region. They always have. Other than Nuturn last year, there has not been a single team that has been able to topple them. However, to your point, it’s hard to scale teams to international competition considering they have never been.
It’s all guesswork when comparing regions, so seeing how DRX performs at international events and how they destroy in their region leads me to think the REGION not DRX has a lot of work to do, & they will absolutely be really good.
As far as APAC/SEA, I rated them above KR because, as a region, they have outperformed KR in more recent tournaments (APAC LCQ, Champions, & now this Masters)
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#10]NA
BR
APAC
JP
EUedit: KEKW EMEA fans downvoting because they know their region is washed as fuck. so sad!
SEN fan calling others washed 💀💀
Yugure [#16]I would say
EMEA
NA
LOUD (can play/win against EMEA/NA best teams, but certainly needs some adjustments)
SEA/DRX (excluding DRX choking, if we add that they would be lower than ZETA but higher than BR/KR)
ZETA/KRU
BR/KR
JP
LATAM
Best list
i would say apac or kr 3rd best bc theyve been more consistent. NA and EMEA always battling around 1st and 2nd but apac has been p good consistently and kr has gotten good finishes in masters 2 3 2021 and masters 1 2022 so i think brazils good showing isnt enough just yet but it will probably be up there. especially if teams that can win against loud pop up too.
CowboySG [#27]It's either Brazil or APAC. Rn I'd pick LOUD over PRX, but Xerxia over NIP.
BR "super team" got 3-0'ed how would they ever do better
NA_OWNS_EVERY_REGION [#8]LMAOOOOOOOOO EU TOP 3
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Strafe7 [#2]zeta looked way worse when they were playing nip. Zeta started to actually look like a good team against G2
that argument is sht, u can say that for any team but you'd never know because no one got playtime like zeta and optic
Attixem [#28]BR "super team" got 3-0'ed how would they ever do better
2 of those games went into OT. Let's not start acting like LOUD is a bad team.
yea sorry but loud made it to the top because they aggressively shit on the rest of brazil
im not saying its a bad region but they got this far because of the good team, i think brazil has the potential to create like 3 other super teams and thats about it
NIP looked hella disappointing imo in the final vs loud and even during some of their previous games during challengers
even the zeta game they looked hella weak too
CowboySG [#32]2 of those games went into OT. Let's not start acting like LOUD is a bad team.
you know, you're right it was really close and BR is very good
CowboySG [#32]2 of those games went into OT. Let's not start acting like LOUD is a bad team.
i mean breeze is optic perma ban and they somehow beat loud in it
ascent is loud's so called best map, and were undefeated and they got kinda rolled ngl
bind was close tho, they played really well there
Yugure [#16]I would say
EMEA
NA
LOUD (can play/win against EMEA/NA best teams, but certainly needs some adjustments)
SEA/DRX (excluding DRX choking, if we add that they would be lower than ZETA but higher than BR/KR)
ZETA/KRU
BR/KR
JP
LATAM
I'm a little confused about how EMEA is the best when their second-best team in the region went 1-2 in the Playoffs.
Avix [#39]I'm a little confused about how EMEA is the best when their second-best team in the region went 1-2 in the Playoffs.
even Chet said M3C (Gambit) and FPX are the best teams in the world (for them at least, since they got owned in scrims by these two teams). Also we didn't see any EU vs NA matchup, so adding this to the fact that the best team from the tournament got owned by two teams from EMEA, who didn't was at full strenght in this Masters specific and the other 3 were playing with some changes, we can say that the teams from EMEA can probably win against the teams from NA or at least play equally.
Strafe7 [#2]zeta looked way worse when they were playing nip. Zeta started to actually look like a good team against G2
yup you could say that if nip beat zeta they would also have improved during the tournament, even though even I don't think they would improve as much
Avix [#39]I'm a little confused about how EMEA is the best when their second-best team in the region went 1-2 in the Playoffs.
in that logic NA #1 seed went 0-2 in playoffs
Blaku [#26]
- EU
- NA
Rest 1 team regions who no one cares about
yo where was eu in top 4? did they go out and colonise asia and NA again or something? cuz otherwise cudnt see them
kzeriar [#43]yup you could say that if nip beat zeta they would also have improved during the tournament, even though even I don't think they would improve as much
The main point is that the result isn't particularly impressive because they lost to a team that looked weak in that match
Yugure [#40]even Chet said M3C (Gambit) and FPX are the best teams in the world (for them at least, since they got owned in scrims by these two teams). Also we didn't see any EU vs NA matchup, so adding this to the fact that the best team from the tournament got owned by two teams from EMEA, who didn't was at full strenght in this Masters specific and the other 3 were playing with some changes, we can say that the teams from EMEA can probably win against the teams from NA or at least play equally.
G2's performance was underwhelming to say the least and even if Chet admits that M3C is good, if they were really good they would've made it to the event, especially with only having to get top 4. TL and G2 both had nothing wrong with their teams and they both underperformed when they got to playoffs, so then the only team that has a real excuse is FPX, because Fnatic (since they were 3rd in the region) wasn't supposed to go as far if you go only based of seeding. FPX would have to be miles ahead of G2 to actually have a good performance at masters if they did get their visas worked out. Overall my point is EMEA's two teams that actually had their rosters that they were supposed to have went out early in the playoffs and NA won the whole tourney (and beat the team that sent G2 to lowers).
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