Riot changes too much

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Why do you have to change the whole fucking meta when it's at its best. Like why do we need sova and jett nerfs and a new agent now. We've only had one tournament with this meta, and it is arguable the best meta this game has had. Jett and sova are being played less. Literally every initiator has a place in the meta, neon raze and yoru are being played way more, sometimes even no duelist comps now(like on icebox). The meta is in its most fun and they gotta fuck it up.

Games are actually fun to watch now since people aren't sitting in spawn for 1 minute baiting astra util, people actually are fucking playing the game, and watching neon, and yoru is really fun. I feel like I can actually sit and watch a full bo3 now.

Stop doing an overwatch and let the players fucking play. Only change when change is needed, and when the game is stale. The game is perfectly fine rn

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burritx

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That's a lotta words
Too bad I'm not readin em

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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tldr: stop making changes when meta is good

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burritx

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L take + didn't ask + American

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It keeps the game fresh.

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but the game is fresh rn, we've only had this good meta for 1 tournament

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Dude, Jett has been in the meta since beta. Imo this meta change is amazing and refreshing. It doesn’t change the meta all too much either. Jett is still the best duelist.

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jett is only consistantly being played on ascent, breeze, haven, and icebox, and teams like optic are only running jett on ascent and breeze, switching in place for neon on haven, and no duelist on icebox. Many teams are doing the same. Jett is being played less and less. idk what you mean but ok

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Oh no! Jett is being played consistently on 4/7 maps with the exception of 1-2 teams.

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Amok

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Was thinking the exact same thing.

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it works on league, so it should work on valorant too, i prefer this way, every year we will see different playstiles and comps, this make the game fresh to watch

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we've had 2 months/1 tournament with this meta, like why not wait a few more months, I,m not saying don't make changes, but Im saying stop making changes every fucking month.

Even you said it, "every year comps are different", well in valorant it's every fucking month. And why fuck up the meta now when the game is actually enjoyable to play and watch now

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You do realise the jett nerf isn't even that bad it just raised the skill ceiling for her, you will always need a jett on some mapss

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allows counterplay and more tactics and innovation

just see how the game progressed from just rushing on site with smokes and some flashes

now there’s way more utility synergy, and other stuff too

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We'd be stuck in the post plant meta if we didn't have a constantly changing meta lmao

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Amok

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the confusing part is we literally were. I swear most of last year was just Viper/Astra post plant meta. and not meta changes every month as suggested. idk man

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zaiko

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Yeah, just realized this, it wasn't as repressive as it once was because teams learned how to play around it.

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yeah, that's what im saying though, because viper and astra nerfs improved the meta, and the meta is perfectly fine now, so why add a new agent that could fuck up the meta when the game is at its best state

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you guys actually dont fucking read. I said make changes when the game is stale, like when they changed astra, but why change now when we've only had this good meta for 1 month, I saying wait 1-2 months before making another change since the meta is not stale and completly fine now.

I swear people dont fucking read and make assumptions

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Amok

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"we've had 2 months/1 tournament with this meta, like why not wait a few more months, I,m not saying don't make changes, but Im saying stop making changes every fucking month."

This is all we are referring to. Very clearly you state that they need to stop making changes every month.

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viper and astra nerfs took months before their much needed changes, but tell me, do any agents need changes rn, no. "Make changes when the game is stale" is also what I said

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I think Phoenix needs changes, Jett needed a nerf, Sova needs slight balancing, Astra is too weak for play outside of Pro coordination, cypher sees very little pickrate so could use a buff. That's what I think, and clearly you disagree. The beauty is that we both have our opinion and neither is factually correct.

These are subjective truths, very little of what you've said in this thread is objectively true. People don't feel the same way as you.

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yet no phoenix changes or astra or cypher changes, riot thought a new agent was needed. And imo jett and sova didnt really need nerfs, I thought a better nerf would have been to get rid of jett dash refresh. Chamber needs more of a nerf than jett and chamber.

And they nerf jett into oblivion, who the fuck would play jett now like

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Nah it keeps the game fres. Change has to happen when u have a hero/ability base game because u need to make metas as there will always be agents that's weaker. It's super hard for everything to be balanced. What they should work balance and keep consistent Is the guns. While the agents there will always be changes because agents will always be underuse. The changes allow for other agents to have their moment and it keeps it interesting.

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You will find peace when you realize everything you said was your opinion. Not everyone feels the same way.

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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ok, I made this because it is my opinion, kinda sounds like you're not respecting my opinion, so you're kidna hypocritical rn

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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you didn't read my statement correctly reread bro

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Yeah i agree, they should wait more to do these nerfs. Sova doesn't even need a nerf to be real, he is well balanced, and the current meta kind of balances him with the other initiators, jett needed a nerf because she was by far the best duelist in her role (was starting to lag behind with the arrival of chamber, and the dominance of raze on some maps), but I think the way they did it was awful, because you take away a lot of possibilities of moves that you could do before and make the agent very repetitive and limited (Just my opnion).
This change in jett will make the game healthier, but I think it could have been done better, without killing the agent so much.

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Sova literally has never been nerfed once
The only time he was nerfed was when all the agents in the game were nerfed so their util cost more

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but he isn't really being played anymore, his only 2 consistant maps are breeze and ascent, on bind he's being replaced by sage, on haven he is being replaced by breach and kayo/skye combo, like with time he wouldnt be the most played initiator anymore

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+1, i think a better nerf would have been that her dash never refreshes, even after 2 kills

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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that wasn't even it, I said mainly why a new agent, like why fuck up the meta now, and jetts nerf are significant enough where I see nobody playing her now

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Amok

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as a casual valorant player i am DYING for a new agent. feels like years since neon.

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mb it's just me but neon feels like yesterday

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They set a roadmap to have new agents multiple times a year. If you don’t like a constantly changing game that rewards risk and innovation then I suggest you play CS.

Dudes were all pumped and losing their minds in CS cause some team did a Molly no one had ever seen before.

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IM GONNA LOSE MY FUCKING MIND BRO, I NEVER SAID TO NOT MAKE CHANGES, I FUCKING SAID TO WAIT A BIT BEFORE A CHANGE BECAUSE THE META IS GOOD RN. HOLY SHIT

2-4 agents a year is better imo than an agent every 2 months

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LouBag

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Can you not read. They have a road map. They plan on releasing about 3-4 agents a year. They have said this since the game launched. If you don’t like it, then You should probably leave cause it ain’t gonna change.

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people are just starting to figure out neon and yoru, and they want to add another agent now like, couldn't they have waited 1 more month, that's all im saying god damn

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this rng in valorant comp scene just benefit regions like na, apac, japan and brazil

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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yeah but give it time, and she would be played less and less, let people experiment with yoru, and neon, and other agents more

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Amok

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you are stating everything as if it is fact, its misleading. you are entitled to your opinion.

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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Im sorry I should have titled it "I think riot changes too much", like no, I need clickbait bro'

but yeah I think they change too often, changes every 3 months imo are better than every month, just saying, you disagree, that's fine, im just backing my arguement

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I am happy for you or sad that it happened

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SENneedstacpausetowin

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unlucko i am initiator main, nt