SEN f0rsaken??

Hear me out. TenZ has talked about how it is not ideal for him to entry all the time, yes sure he will do it if his team requires but he prefers to be a trade player who would be the second man into the site. Something similar to the role jingg plays for PRX. Also, f0rsaken has said that he is open to a move to NA or EU and he cited 'exposure' as one of the reasons he wants to move. Who can give him more exposure than Sentinels?

Here's the article of him talking about his desire to move: Paper Rex’s main duelist player Jason ‘f0rsakeN’ Susanto has told Dexerto he is open to a move to North America or Europe in the future.

0.0001% chance

Dokka [#2]

0.0001% chance

Why not? Too many Jett mains?

Dokka [#2]

0.0001% chance

Nah .0003% I did the calculations

Even if f0rsaken move to NA
It won't be sentinels 100,00%

why would he downgrade that hard

SaltyMcNulty [#3]

Why not? Too many Jett mains?

Why would f0rsaken move from the top four in the world to sen which is like 20th? f0rsaken has been with Paper rex for a long time, he wouldn't make such a risky move for "exposure" when he is getting plenty of exposure destroying t1 teams with yoru.

chimpy [#4]

Nah .0003% I did the calculations

Dr. Strange lookin ass

chimpy [#4]

Nah .0003% I did the calculations

my apologies D:

Dokka [#7]

Why would f0rsaken move from the top four in the world to sen which is like 20th? f0rsaken has been with Paper rex for a long time, he wouldn't make such a risky move for "exposure" when he is getting plenty of exposure destroying t1 teams with yoru.

Cz he would make them a better team imo! the difference between SEN and a top top team isn't night and day. They just need few adjustment here and there and need a legit coach. That's all. PRX wasn't a top 20 team last LAN, SEN were. Time changes quickly in esports.

Why would he leave a top 4 team for sentinels lmao

SaltyMcNulty [#10]

Cz he would make them a better team imo! the difference between SEN and a top top team isn't night and day. They just need few adjustment here and there and need a legit coach. That's all. PRX wasn't a top 20 team last LAN, SEN were. Time changes quickly in esports.

Paper rex is fighting to become the best in the world, Sentinels are fighting to fix their roster. Even if PRX bows out to Zeta tomorrow, it would be career suicide for f0rsaken to leave Paper Rex to join a struggling team like sentinels.

1. f0rsaken is extremely close with all his teammates and staff. He wouldn't leave them for strangers
2. Paper Rex is a better run team than Sentinels, consistent coaching staff and consistency with practices
3. f0rsaken would have a better time staying and fixing the problems of a top-four team than a top 20 team|
4. As of right now, Paper Rex is better than Sentinels, its just a downgrade
5. If he joined, the roles would be confused, with two hardcore duelist mains and already having flex players

TLDR - its not happening in this universe

Dokka [#12]

Paper rex is fighting to become the best in the world, Sentinels are fighting to fix their roster. Even if PRX bows out to Zeta tomorrow, it would be career suicide for f0rsaken to leave Paper Rex to join a struggling team like sentinels.

1. f0rsaken is extremely close with all his teammates and staff. He wouldn't leave them for strangers
2. Paper Rex is a better run team than Sentinels, consistent coaching staff and consistency with practices
3. f0rsaken would have a better time staying and fixing the problems of a top-four team than a top 20 team|
4. As of right now, Paper Rex is better than Sentinels, its just a downgrade
5. If he joined, the roles would be confused, with two hardcore duelist mains and already having flex players

TLDR - its not happening in this universe

Sen fighting to fix their roster? Sen isn't fighting for anything

61Hiko [#13]

Sen fighting to fix their roster? Sen isn't fighting for anything

🤷‍♂️

I feel like people just ship all these international teams and players together without considering talent is not the only factor. Communication is incredibly important in these games. Im guessing there are a ton of international pros that speak very little or no English. If they cant communicate with the team, it will literally never work

Dokka [#12]

Paper rex is fighting to become the best in the world, Sentinels are fighting to fix their roster. Even if PRX bows out to Zeta tomorrow, it would be career suicide for f0rsaken to leave Paper Rex to join a struggling team like sentinels.

1. f0rsaken is extremely close with all his teammates and staff. He wouldn't leave them for strangers
2. Paper Rex is a better run team than Sentinels, consistent coaching staff and consistency with practices
3. f0rsaken would have a better time staying and fixing the problems of a top-four team than a top 20 team|
4. As of right now, Paper Rex is better than Sentinels, its just a downgrade
5. If he joined, the roles would be confused, with two hardcore duelist mains and already having flex players

TLDR - its not happening in this universe

f0rsaken is extremely close with all his teammates and staff. He wouldn't leave them for strangers

This doesn't make any sense. Did you even read the article? If he says he's open to a move to NA or EU, that literally means he's open to leave his teammates and staff for a group of strangers.

Paper Rex is a better run team than Sentinels, consistent coaching staff and consistency with practices

While this is true atm, there's no guarantee that this couldn't change in the future, nor do I think he'd care that much if the pay is better (which is guaranteed to be if the move does happen)

4. and 5. are true.

I don't think f0rsaken would join sentinels, I don't even think Sentinels would want him just role wise. But his current salary is nowhere near what it could be if he were to join a different t1 organization in NA. You just can't say he's better off in Paper Rex because they're better than any team in NA right now bar OpTic maybe without taking into consideration the money.

NuclearNick [#15]

I feel like people just ship all these international teams and players together without considering talent is not the only factor. Communication is incredibly important in these games. Im guessing there are a ton of international pros that speak very little or no English. If they cant communicate with the team, it will literally never work

He doesn't need a masters degree in English to comm effectively. He isn't going to be the IGL that he needs to explicitly explain everything. PRX is already a multilingual team so I would assume they comm in ENG already, Also f0rsaken speaks English fluently on his streams!

RG [#11]

Why would he leave a top 4 team for sentinels lmao

Bro why are you being snarky at SEN? TL wouldn't even be in Iceland if it wasn't for FPX to get fucked over with covid and visa issues LMAO.

TenZ is staying on sen, they won't just drop the player they paid 1m for

Let me the drugs bro

feelsbadboaster [#19]

TenZ is staying on sen, they won't just drop the player they paid 1m for

Why does TenZ need to be dropped? Did you read what said? TenZ can play a role similar to jingg, both can shine together.

SaltyMcNulty [#21]

Why does TenZ need to be dropped? Did you read what said? TenZ can play a role similar to jingg, both can shine together.

Clueless take

For all the people who are saying "no, there's no way he'd leave his team", you have to consider how much PRX is paying him compared to how much a team like Sentinels could pay him. His wage in SEA is incredible- for an SEA citizen, but in NA, he'd be paid probably 10x or more what he gets from PRX.

iSlasher [#23]

For all the people who are saying "no, there's no way he'd leave his team", you have to consider how much PRX is paying him compared to how much a team like Sentinels could pay him. His wage in SEA is incredible- for an SEA citizen, but in NA, he'd be paid probably 10x or more what he gets from PRX.

yes 2-3k USD in SEA is T2/T3 salary in NA

feelsbadboaster [#22]

Clueless take

ok feelsbadboaster

GLN321 [#16]

f0rsaken is extremely close with all his teammates and staff. He wouldn't leave them for strangers

This doesn't make any sense. Did you even read the article? If he says he's open to a move to NA or EU, that literally means he's open to leave his teammates and staff for a group of strangers.

Paper Rex is a better run team than Sentinels, consistent coaching staff and consistency with practices

While this is true atm, there's no guarantee that this couldn't change in the future, nor do I think he'd care that much if the pay is better (which is guaranteed to be if the move does happen)

4. and 5. are true.

I don't think f0rsaken would join sentinels, I don't even think Sentinels would want him just role wise. But his current salary is nowhere near what it could be if he were to join a different t1 organization in NA. You just can't say he's better off in Paper Rex because they're better than any team in NA right now bar OpTic maybe without taking into consideration the money.

Fair

SaltyMcNulty [#21]

Why does TenZ need to be dropped? Did you read what said? TenZ can play a role similar to jingg, both can shine together.

Yea but does forsaken and tenz have the same chemistry as forsaken and jinggg? Nah

They don't need forsaken, I'm sure tenz can perform as good and consistent as forsaken if shahz, sick, zombs, and dapr can provide a good support like mindfreak, benkai, and Davai did

SaltyMcNulty [#18]

Bro why are you being snarky at SEN? TL wouldn't even be in Iceland if it wasn't for FPX to get fucked over with covid and visa issues LMAO.

when did i say liquid is good rn?

RG [#29]

when did i say liquid is good rn?

You have Liquid flair bruh! the last thing you should do is poke fun at someone else's team.

wouldnt mind the debate but broo i love the fact that he finally got the respect that he deserve

i feel like mixwell will be benched and G2 will get Forsaken. if he was to go anywhere. also G2 Carlos is known for poaching

SaltyMcNulty [#17]

He doesn't need a masters degree in English to comm effectively. He isn't going to be the IGL that he needs to explicitly explain everything. PRX is already a multilingual team so I would assume they comm in ENG already, Also f0rsaken speaks English fluently on his streams!

yep they actually do speak english in paper rex, you can find voice comm videos on youtube theyre amazing :D

SaltyMcNulty [#30]

You have Liquid flair bruh! the last thing you should do is poke fun at someone else's team.

normal people support a team also when they are not in the top 5 of the world. And he is right why would you leave a team that is global top 4. On top of that he has been with the team for a long time and they live on the other end of the world

G2 and 100 thieves have higher chance than Sentinels

Abdul [#32]

i feel like mixwell will be benched and G2 will get Forsaken. if he was to go anywhere. also G2 Carlos is known for poaching

Yeah G2 is more realistic I suppose but I would love to see him on SEN personally. I feel like he would fit right in.

Fr1tZ [#24]

yes 2-3k USD in SEA is T2/T3 salary in NA

That's what I mean. Getting paid 6-figures by Sentinels would be insane for someone who's getting maybe a few grand a month in SEA.

virtz [#35]

G2 and 100 thieves have higher chance than Sentinels

100T 100%

bruc [#38]

100T 100%

also I seen his stream and his a troll, but laugh even whiff his shot. I think IF he join he would bring a lot of motivations.

Taramissu [#28]

They don't need forsaken, I'm sure tenz can perform as good and consistent as forsaken if shahz, sick, zombs, and dapr can provide a good support like mindfreak, benkai, and Davai did

I think every team in the top 4 has it's star fragging duos. Sentinels doesn't have another one, only tenz is carrying Sentinels.

SaltyMcNulty [#30]

You have Liquid flair bruh! the last thing you should do is poke fun at someone else's team.

Idk about other teams but LuLquid>>>sentineLs

PRX team better than sentinels

SaltyMcNulty [#10]

Cz he would make them a better team imo! the difference between SEN and a top top team isn't night and day. They just need few adjustment here and there and need a legit coach. That's all. PRX wasn't a top 20 team last LAN, SEN were. Time changes quickly in esports.

SEN got 13-1 by The Guard and Paper Rex beat the Guard 2-0 in a very dominant fashion to the point where The Guard were just tilted for the entire game.

AND made a couple of their players cry.

Sentinels fans are different

61Hiko [#13]

Sen fighting to fix their roster? Sen isn't fighting for anything

Sentinels roster are fighting to get more twitch subs

SaltyMcNulty [#18]

Bro why are you being snarky at SEN? TL wouldn't even be in Iceland if it wasn't for FPX to get fucked over with covid and visa issues LMAO.

ratio + at least we made 7-8th without qualifying + stay salty

Dokka [#12]

Paper rex is fighting to become the best in the world, Sentinels are fighting to fix their roster. Even if PRX bows out to Zeta tomorrow, it would be career suicide for f0rsaken to leave Paper Rex to join a struggling team like sentinels.

1. f0rsaken is extremely close with all his teammates and staff. He wouldn't leave them for strangers
2. Paper Rex is a better run team than Sentinels, consistent coaching staff and consistency with practices
3. f0rsaken would have a better time staying and fixing the problems of a top-four team than a top 20 team|
4. As of right now, Paper Rex is better than Sentinels, its just a downgrade
5. If he joined, the roles would be confused, with two hardcore duelist mains and already having flex players

TLDR - its not happening in this universe

i can see it happening.

jinggg will leave for military service soon and benkai might retire, if so i don't think its impossible that f0rsakeN would be open to joining a team like SEN.

Maybe when jingg do his military duty

He said something about leaves prx when jingg doing his military duty but prolly going back after jingg done with his duty. (they sure dont wanna separated as an explosive duo)

f0rsaken himself is pretty close with ID valorant/csgo scene including ID coach and from what i've known most of ID analyst and coach doesnt really favor NA valorant team (except for c9 and optic) which prolly lessen the chance of him going into SEN.

If we're talking about exposure, im pretty sure any NA/EU T1 team could be a good exposure which is up to him, whether he want a clout just simply because he hang out with the famous guys or another kind of exposure which he could only get after achieving something and about money, i think there are a lot of other bigger org on NA that could pay him more than SEN does.

While as a fellow ID, im quite happy he's finally getting the exposure he deserve and im hoping another ID player could get the same chance as him but man... SEN fan sure is different.

i would love to see jett yoru meta