How is SA soo bad even tho they got more mickey mouse tournies than other regions?
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Slashyiguess [#5]what #2 said is correct. They won't get better because they're only going up against each other
but NA does the same and gets better
delusional_paperrex_fan [#6]honestly they shouldnt put it in the main page since its a waste of space
they get decent viewership so its dumb not to put it
chloeburbank [#8]but NA does the same and gets better
their region is really experienced internationally, that is not the case for SA, they're inexperienced and bad
Slashyiguess [#11]their region is really experienced internationally, that is not the case for SA, they're inexperienced and bad
no lmao na is Just better
andrewdamf [#13]no lmao na is Just better
of course they're better. no one fucking thinks sa is better than na, that's just stupid
Slashyiguess [#14]of course they're better. no one fucking thinks sa is better than na, that's just stupid
You literally said yourself that na is better because they are "experienced internationally" i have no doubts if you pick literally any na team from t3 that they could win against big teams from sa
delusional_paperrex_fan [#12]*get out of groups
ik right now this statement must be extremely funny to all sea fans looking at the state of sa val. but so far we have played only one lcq and one vct stage. i firmly believe that when we older, we will get stronger.
andrewdamf [#15]You literally said yourself that na is better because they are "experienced internationally" i have no doubts if you pick literally any na team from t3 that they could win against big teams from sa
because it's true? if na never had any slots for masters while sa had at least one for every vct event then sa would be better. they would have experience, they would learn and adapt, but it doesn't take away that sa is dogshit rn
andrewdamf [#15]You literally said yourself that na is better because they are "experienced internationally" i have no doubts if you pick literally any na team from t3 that they could win against big teams from sa
look what experience did to japanese teams, same could def happen with SA
bruddah [#16]ik right now this statement must be extremely funny to all sea fans looking at the state of sa val. but so far we have played only one lcq and one vct stage. i firmly believe that when we older, we will get stronger.
u guys had tons of other tec tourneys but still got shit on by sea teams
chloeburbank [#4]u didnt read the question
India teams - oh my bad its coz they always play each other and they aren't that good hence the improvement is marginal compared to bigger regions
there's like 3 tier1 (VLT GE EG) teams and 4-5 tier2 teams which sometimes win against the tier1 teams and these tier1 teams are adamant on living in Mumbai(5 ping Mumbai 70 ping Singapore) instead of Chennai (35 ping on both Mumbai and Singapore) coz they wanna win mickey mouse tourneys more than official VCT ones coz that's a regular source of Income
Pakistani teams- Team Snakes is a really good team but they never got past tier1 Indian teams and imo its because they always had to play on 50 ping (India doesn't give Pakistanis visa so easily) on Mumbai server but in 2022 apparently best Pakistani Jett will play on a Indian team along with 1 Korean and 1 Filipino player so that could be better than current t1 teams
Bangladesh has 1 good team too but most other players don't wanna play Indian tourneys so they never Improve
Sri Lanka Maldives Bhutan Afghanistan Nepal have 1-2 good players Each but these 5 are wayy behind India Pakistan and Bangladesh so no hopes from their teams
delusional_paperrex_fan [#19]u guys had tons of other tec tourneys but still got shit on by sea teams
TONS KEKW
chloeburbank [#18]look what experience did to japanese teams, same could def happen with SA
No shit they would be better, but they wouldnt win anything because their players are garbage, unless they have god strats they wouldnt get 5 rounds against any team in masters rn. Also zeta is winning because of their insane confidence, timings, and a hard combination of aim and teamwork, not because of experience. They have enough when they played their first lan + multiple and multiple matches against Crazy raccons who basically played all international events
delusional_paperrex_fan [#19]u guys had tons of other tec tourneys but still got shit on by sea teams
2 only
delusional_paperrex_fan [#19]u guys had tons of other tec tourneys but still got shit on by sea teams
i think it was 2 or 3 right? i don't know if that qualifies as "tons". also mickey mouse tourneys are irrelevant. its the officials that count. (i would say the same even if we won the tec tourneys, no point winning tec unless you show up in vct officials)
**India teams - oh my bad its coz they always play each other and they aren't that good hence the improvement is marginal compared to bigger regions
there's like 3 tier1 (VLT GE EG) teams and 4-5 tier2 teams which sometimes win against the tier1 teams and these tier1 teams are adamant on living in Mumbai(5 ping Mumbai 70 ping Singapore) instead of Chennai (35 ping on both Mumbai and Singapore) coz they wanna win mickey mouse tourneys more than official VCT ones coz that's a regular source of Income
Pakistani teams- Team Snakes is a really good team but they never got past tier1 Indian teams and imo its because they always had to play on 50 ping (India doesn't give Pakistanis visa so easily) on Mumbai server but in 2022 apparently best Pakistani Jett will play on a Indian team along with 1 Korean and 1 Filipino player so that could be better than current t1 teams
Bangladesh has 1 good team too but most other players don't wanna play Indian tourneys so they never Improve
Sri Lanka Maldives Bhutan Afghanistan Nepal have 1-2 good players Each but these 5 are wayy behind India Pakistan and Bangladesh so no hopes from their teams**
andrewdamf [#23]No shit they would be better, but they wouldnt win anything because their players are garbage, unless they have god strats they wouldnt get 5 rounds against any team in masters rn. Also zeta is winning because of their insane confidence, timings, and a hard combination of aim and teamwork, not because of experience. They have enough when they played their first lan + multiple and multiple matches against Crazy raccons who basically played all international events
tell me you're a clown with actually saying you're a clown
andrewdamf [#23]No shit they would be better, but they wouldnt win anything because their players are garbage, unless they have god strats they wouldnt get 5 rounds against any team in masters rn. Also zeta is winning because of their insane confidence, timings, and a hard combination of aim and teamwork, not because of experience. They have enough when they played their first lan + multiple and multiple matches against Crazy raccons who basically played all international events
what is your argument?, are you trying to say sa teams are bad because they've got sa players??. experience is what sets a good team from a bad one, for example lets take optic v the gaurd. We know that the tgrd is filled with talent and has the potential to win masters but when put in unexperienced circumstances they lose their cool and that's when optic sweeped them, Similarly if sa only has experience within its region then surely it cant play against teams which are far more experienced like paper rex and the sea teams which play them constantly.
Unfair competition is also another reason, many at times the sa teams have to adjust with ping differences due to their home location and the server where the games are being played on.
also calling them garbage is so pathetic from you because I'm sure all you do is lurk on this site and try to get impressions, if you hate sa teams and sa players just because their south Asian then your not even trying to hide the fact your a racist scum.
chloeburbank [#18]look what experience did to japanese teams, same could def happen with SA
Well Japanese are just better players in general since the pc gaming is still kind of a new thing in SA for now and Japanese teams scrim against DRX if you didnt know Stax tweeted about zeta scrimming them before masters.
J0JI [#28]what is your argument?, are you trying to say sa teams are bad because they've got sa players??. experience is what sets a good team from a bad one, for example lets take optic v the gaurd. We know that the tgrd is filled with talent and has the potential to win masters but when put in unexperienced circumstances they lose their cool and that's when optic sweeped them, Similarly if sa only has experience within its region then surely it cant play against teams which are far more experienced like paper rex and the sea teams which play them constantly.
Unfair competition is also another reason, many at times the sa teams have to adjust with ping differences due to their home location and the server where the games are being played on.
also calling them garbage is so pathetic from you because I'm sure all you do is lurk on this site and try to get impressions, if you hate sa teams and sa players just because their south Asian then your not even trying to hide the fact your a racist scum.
Im not reading all that, Sorry if you got so mad at me speaking some facts, but i will clarify to you: even if SA had to go to every masters event they still wouldnt win anything because their players are simple trash, their aim, gamesense etc are just bad. Like i said, unless they have god strats that noone has even seen before they would just simple get destroyed, i watched the global esporte vs velocity game and that shit was just terrible. Im not racist bro lol
J0JI [#28]what is your argument?, are you trying to say sa teams are bad because they've got sa players??. experience is what sets a good team from a bad one, for example lets take optic v the gaurd. We know that the tgrd is filled with talent and has the potential to win masters but when put in unexperienced circumstances they lose their cool and that's when optic sweeped them, Similarly if sa only has experience within its region then surely it cant play against teams which are far more experienced like paper rex and the sea teams which play them constantly.
Unfair competition is also another reason, many at times the sa teams have to adjust with ping differences due to their home location and the server where the games are being played on.
also calling them garbage is so pathetic from you because I'm sure all you do is lurk on this site and try to get impressions, if you hate sa teams and sa players just because their south Asian then your not even trying to hide the fact your a racist scum.
There is no point in bringing up an actual genuine take into this thread lol people are hard trolling and baiting and the more you talk brains the more dumb their takes will become.
andrewdamf [#30]Im not reading all that, Sorry if you got so mad at me speaking some facts, but i will clarify to you: even if SA had to go to every masters event they still wouldnt win anything because their players are simple trash, their aim, gamesense etc are just bad. Like i said, unless they have god strats that noone has even seen before they would just simple get destroyed, i watched the global esporte vs velocity game and that shit was just terrible. Im not racist bro lol
Damn no need to be so harsh with words about it we get it we are bad :(
Demise [#32]Damn no need to be so harsh with words about it we get it we are bad :(
Sorry brother but theres no other way to me explain that your players are bad, but i like skrossi!
Just to remind.....GE beat the hell out of DWG kia and F4Q in their prime ...and in this apac vlt won easily against Vietnam/HK teams and against FS/SBE also if u watched the games you know they were leading both the games 9/3 and then crumbles to the pressure and inexperience.............don't comment bullshit if you haven't watched the matches
RAOSHAB [#34]Just to remind.....GE beat the hell out of DWG kia and F4Q in their prime ...and in this apac vlt won easily against Vietnam/HK teams and against FS/SBE also if u watched the games you know they were leading both the games 9/3 and then crumbles to the pressure and inexperience.............don't comment bullshit if you haven't watched the matches
Yikes this is one of the most braindead takes i have seen today.
Demise [#35]Yikes this is one of the most braindead takes i have seen today.
ofc it will be for your small peanut brain
RAOSHAB [#34]Just to remind.....GE beat the hell out of DWG kia and F4Q in their prime ...and in this apac vlt won easily against Vietnam/HK teams and against FS/SBE also if u watched the games you know they were leading both the games 9/3 and then crumbles to the pressure and inexperience.............don't comment bullshit if you haven't watched the matches
DWG Kia was the team that did not know they were playing LCQ 2 weeks before
F4Q was disbanding anyway & still lost to them anyways
RAOSHAB [#34]Just to remind.....GE beat the hell out of DWG kia and F4Q in their prime ...and in this apac vlt won easily against Vietnam/HK teams and against FS/SBE also if u watched the games you know they were leading both the games 9/3 and then crumbles to the pressure and inexperience.............don't comment bullshit if you haven't watched the matches
0/8
delusional_paperrex_fan [#19]u guys had tons of other tec tourneys but still got shit on by sea teams
that name really suits you lol
Omega_lul [#38]DWG Kia was the team that did not know they were playing LCQ 2 weeks before
F4Q was disbanding anyway & still lost to them anyways
LLLLLLLLLLLLL
learn to appriciate also bro just dont always look on the downside
RAOSHAB [#41]LLLLLLLLLLLLL
learn to appriciate also bro just dont always look on the downside
DWG want even in the form at that time lmao....yes they almost defeated a team that went to international stage F4Q ..that is what they achieved in that tourney.
Dwg wasn't strong at that time
andrewdamf [#30]Im not reading all that, Sorry if you got so mad at me speaking some facts, but i will clarify to you: even if SA had to go to every masters event they still wouldnt win anything because their players are simple trash, their aim, gamesense etc are just bad. Like i said, unless they have god strats that noone has even seen before they would just simple get destroyed, i watched the global esporte vs velocity game and that shit was just terrible. Im not racist bro lol
Saying they're shit coz they're from SA and yet claiming to not be racist. Lmao kid🤣
DaddySam [#43]Saying they're shit coz they're from SA and yet claiming to not be racist. Lmao kid🤣
learn how to read lmfao, i never said they are bad because they are from sa
andrewdamf [#44]learn how to read lmfao, i never said they are bad because they are from sa
Sorry bo can't read for shit since I'm from SA and can't afford education🙏😅
DaddySam [#45]Sorry bo can't read for shit since I'm from SA and can't afford education🙏😅
Cringe af, whatever bro have a good day!
andrewdamf [#46]Cringe af, whatever bro have a good day!
Haha ok KID you too have a beautiful day. Always fun to talk to people like you ❤️
bruddah [#16]ik right now this statement must be extremely funny to all sea fans looking at the state of sa val. but so far we have played only one lcq and one vct stage. i firmly believe that when we older, we will get stronger.
definitely reaching groups next apac but won't be beating prx or xerxia this year
because SA never had csgo or a game like it blow up. In NA, BR, EMEA etc, most of the pros have some fps gaming background. SA didn't have tournaments on the same level which incentivized teams and players from other regions to get better at these kinds of games. Therefore, as well as being in a "small" region with little room to grow without being invested in, players won't get better if they don't see a future in it. Finally, SA has a large enough population to produce some good talent, but not everyone has access to video games like in other regions. Considering all this, im not surprised that SA isn't very good at the game.
wizardbot [#50]Its the first big fps in India, the old players arent good enough and they only play each other. They need more intl exp, it'll happen with time inevitably because of the rather large population unless the game dies
surprisngly nice take from GE fan
Demise [#29]Well Japanese are just better players in general since the pc gaming is still kind of a new thing in SA for now and Japanese teams scrim against DRX if you didnt know Stax tweeted about zeta scrimming them before masters.
new?? half of my friends never played anything other than gta punjab
SA as a region is way backwards owing to its cultural background. You are born with expectations that you will be a doctor or an engineers. No one gives a damn about your career choices. So choosing esports or streaming is NOT a career but a pastime. This has changed a bit but there is very limited talent if you think of the fact that 1 in every 6 people in the world is from SA. And also mainting an org is more of a loss making venture here rn. Not enuf sponsors. This will improve ofcourse as the region gets more exposure. Also the inexperience is a big factor which is evident from VLT. They had huge leads against some good teams but couldnt close the map. All these wont fix in a year or two but its a start with Valorant being the first major fps here.
delusional_paperrex_fan [#19]u guys had tons of other tec tourneys but still got shit on by sea teams
tons is Zotac Cup and 1 TEC both of which most Indian teams played on atleast 70 ping against max 20 lmao. You guys cried when they made the rule that 1 map will be played on Mumbai and other 2 on SG.
GlaZeD [#51]surprisngly nice take from GE fan
????? Usual common dumb take by a VLT fan :)
Not every GE fan is dumb just as not every VLT is fan is not dumb. Both fanbases have plenty of dumbs ppl. I don't even support GE much anymore anyways, I root for every Indian team so I got the flair before APAC playins but forgot to change it
wizardbot [#55]????? Usual common dumb take by a VLT fan :)
Not every GE fan is dumb just as not every VLT is fan is not dumb. Both fanbases have plenty of dumbs ppl. I don't even support GE much anymore anyways, I root for every Indian team so I got the flair before APAC playins but forgot to change it
Well that's the case for the entire world and usually the dumber ones are the louder ones.
aK1Oz3S [#53]SA as a region is way backwards owing to its cultural background. You are born with expectations that you will be a doctor or an engineers. No one gives a damn about your career choices. So choosing esports or streaming is NOT a career but a pastime. This has changed a bit but there is very limited talent if you think of the fact that 1 in every 6 people in the world is from SA. And also mainting an org is more of a loss making venture here rn. Not enuf sponsors. This will improve ofcourse as the region gets more exposure. Also the inexperience is a big factor which is evident from VLT. They had huge leads against some good teams but couldnt close the map. All these wont fix in a year or two but its a start with Valorant being the first major fps here.
damn thats gotta be demoralizing
I'm pretty sure there's a lot of new and young talent left to be discovered in SA but right now it's been dominated by old pros who have been playing for a long time...also pc eSports is a new thing..it's a lot more expensive investment and a lot of orgs are not investing in it because it's quite risky..in a nutshell competition is bad ...makes top teams from region non adaptable( just like drx) ...plus it's a new scene
Demise [#31]There is no point in bringing up an actual genuine take into this thread lol people are hard trolling and baiting and the more you talk brains the more dumb their takes will become.
yeah realized that right now lol. This kid prolly doing it for impressions cause he gets no attention irl or something, its just a phase ig we all grow up from it.
chloeburbank [#8]but NA does the same and gets better
optic is the only good NA team and they dont play in mickey mouse event
chloeburbank [#63]flag
alteast not fake flagging like u loser, also use ur braincells before typing dumb stuff , chloebraindead
Gyro [#64]alteast not fake flagging like u loser, also use ur braincells before typing dumb stuff , chloebraindead
i said flag bc ur biased
chloeburbank [#66]i said flag bc ur biased
so acc to chloebraindead, no minor region should get any chance to develop cause they are "bad", guess what latam, jp, sea were similar last year they got intnl chances and now are soo much better,
im not biased, im just sad , even after zeta and pprx heroics, dumb ppl like u still exists
just dont post ur dumb thoughts , ur just embarassing urself
Gyro [#67]so acc to chloebraindead, no minor region should get any chance to develop cause they are "bad", guess what latam, jp, sea were similar last year they got intnl chances and now are soo much better,
im not biased, im just sad , even after zeta and pprx heroics, dumb ppl like u still exists
just dont post ur dumb thoughts , ur just embarassing urself
i ain't never say that dumbass, look at #18, i just said they were bad.
chloeburbank [#70]South Africa duh
I see. Sorry, i'm not familiar with some international terms, as my communitys outside VLR are mostly brazilian and such.
Funozito [#71]I see. Sorry, i'm not familiar with some international terms, as my communitys outside VLR are mostly brazilian and such.
oh i was joking, i meant south asia
OzyMeister [#20]India teams - oh my bad its coz they always play each other and they aren't that good hence the improvement is marginal compared to bigger regions
there's like 3 tier1 (VLT GE EG) teams and 4-5 tier2 teams which sometimes win against the tier1 teams and these tier1 teams are adamant on living in Mumbai(5 ping Mumbai 70 ping Singapore) instead of Chennai (35 ping on both Mumbai and Singapore) coz they wanna win mickey mouse tourneys more than official VCT ones coz that's a regular source of IncomePakistani teams- Team Snakes is a really good team but they never got past tier1 Indian teams and imo its because they always had to play on 50 ping (India doesn't give Pakistanis visa so easily) on Mumbai server but in 2022 apparently best Pakistani Jett will play on a Indian team along with 1 Korean and 1 Filipino player so that could be better than current t1 teams
Bangladesh has 1 good team too but most other players don't wanna play Indian tourneys so they never Improve
Sri Lanka Maldives Bhutan Afghanistan Nepal have 1-2 good players Each but these 5 are wayy behind India Pakistan and Bangladesh so no hopes from their teams
my man the only team in bangladesh is literally a content creation org lmao, they're far from good
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