Sentinels released new merch today, but here's the thing, all 5 players have branded merch in the collection which means it's super unlikely that they'll be changing their roster anytime soon. What a world when orgs put merch sales before trophies
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SEN not changing rosters any time soon
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UnEstoppable [#3]Sen is still Tier 1 with current roster through…
Hard to say considering they are putting in less work than majority of tier 1 teams.
_wrld_ [#4]Hard to say considering they are putting in less work than majority of tier 1 teams.
They miss a Masters event once and it’s time to blow up a roster where they made it to every other roster? Idk man, seems extreme
_wrld_ [#4]Hard to say considering they are putting in less work than majority of tier 1 teams.
well they're not tier 2
UnEstoppable [#5]They miss a Masters event once and it’s time to blow up a roster where they made it to every other roster? Idk man, seems extreme
They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
_wrld_ [#8]They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
They have probably been on the decline. But what talent is available for them that would clearly boost their results rn? I don’t see much out there.
UnEstoppable [#5]They miss a Masters event once and it’s time to blow up a roster where they made it to every other roster? Idk man, seems extreme
This scene is so momentum based its crazy, you can get left behind so fast. Look at TSM, 100T, ACEND
_wrld_ [#8]They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
bullshit sen won the Vct for both master 2 and master 3
UnEstoppable [#11]Actually amazing how many diehard Sentinels fans became Diehard Guard fans as soon as Sentinels got kicked lmao.
some people project themselves onto the teams they support, so if their team is doing poorly they take it personally
you notice it alot with regular sports fans
RGS_OnToP [#12]bullshit sen won the Vct for both master 2 and master 3
Is this bait or are you just that dumb
SETSUZA [#13]some people project themselves onto the teams they support, so if their team is doing poorly they take it personally
you notice it alot with regular sports fans
On God. I’m an Atlanta fan for decades and we’ve been bad at everything until recently lmao
_wrld_ [#14]Is this bait or are you just that dumb
are you retarded ?
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/TenZ
RGS_OnToP [#16]are you retarded ?
https://liquipedia.net/valorant/TenZ
So you think Sentinels won Masters 3?
UnEstoppable [#15]On God. I’m an Atlanta fan for decades and we’ve been bad at everything until recently lmao
thanks for matt ryan hee hee hee haw (as a colts fan)
_wrld_ [#17]So you think Sentinels won Masters 3?
lol a retard Tsm fans
you :They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2. For champions they only made it because of circuit points
this is a fuking lie becaUSE SEN WON BOTH THE CHALLENGER FOR BOTH MASTER 2+3
sen only got a free pass for champ because they won iceland aka master 2 you dumb retard
RGS_OnToP [#20]lol a retard Tsm fans
you :They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2. For champions they only made it because of circuit pointsthis is a fuking lie becaUSE SEN WON BOTH THE CHALLENGER FOR BOTH MASTER 2+3
sen only got a free pass for champ because they won iceland aka master 2 you dumb retard
That doesn't even change the point. You said they won masters 3 so idk why your calling me retarded.
_wrld_ [#21]That doesn't even change the point. You said they won masters 3 so idk why your calling me retarded.
They won the VTC for master 2+3 you fuking retard
RGS_OnToP [#22]They won the VTC for master 2+3 you fuking retard
Lmao I am officially losing braincells with you.
UnEstoppable [#5]They miss a Masters event once and it’s time to blow up a roster where they made it to every other roster? Idk man, seems extreme
look at Acend
_wrld_ [#23]Lmao I am officially losing braincells with you.
you are braindead anyway
not a big loss
_wrld_ [#4]Hard to say considering they are putting in less work than majority of tier 1 teams.
just because they don't make masters doesn't mean they aren't a teir 1 team. putting in less server time and still competing at a t1 scale is impressive imo
_wrld_ [#8]They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
Dude sentinels literally winning NA Stage 1, NA Stage 2, and NA Stage 3 2021
what do you mean by "They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT", winning Master 2 doesnt give free seat for Master 3, thats what make Sentinels member tilting and got stomped by BBG on NA stage 3 challenger 1, they need to play from the bottom qualifiers for NA stage 3 playoff, while they are valorant best team at that time
And whats the meaning "ONLY made Champion because of circuit points", dude thats CIRCUIT POINT + LCQ the only way to VCT Champions, there is no open qualifier for VCT Champion, thats mean sentinels best NA team at that time
Dude are you on drug or what?
UnEstoppable [#11]Actually amazing how many diehard Sentinels fans became Diehard Guard fans as soon as Sentinels got kicked lmao.
I haven't seen it. Have people transitioned? Sure. Were they diehard Sentinels fans? Obviously not.
I hoped the best for the Sentinels/NA teams internationally, but I REALLY like The Guard. They remind me of C9 back when they became big in League of Legends out of nowhere and started dominating the scene.
240hz_Wood [#29]I haven't seen it. Have people transitioned? Sure. Were they diehard Sentinels fans? Obviously not.
I hoped the best for the Sentinels/NA teams internationally, but I REALLY like The Guard. They remind me of C9 back when they became big in League of Legends out of nowhere and started dominating the scene.
I love that the Guard have fans, they deserve it. But I’m not sure how you can have seen this forum before Guard and after and not noticed a huge shift in support.
_wrld_ [#8]They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
they won masters 2 lmfao, masters 3 is where they went out in quarters
UnEstoppable [#3]Sen is still Tier 1 with current roster through…
I would say they're Tier 1 in NA but Tier 2 internationally. Watching Challengers in NA it really felt like teams such as the Guard, C9, Optic, and V1 were all evolving the game while Sens were still playing like it was mid 2021. I didn't catch much of the other regions but I feel like on an international stage Sens would have been devoured. And I say all of this as a fan of the team
240hz_Wood [#29]I haven't seen it. Have people transitioned? Sure. Were they diehard Sentinels fans? Obviously not.
I hoped the best for the Sentinels/NA teams internationally, but I REALLY like The Guard. They remind me of C9 back when they became big in League of Legends out of nowhere and started dominating the scene.
I kind of agree with you. I think part of being a true die hard fan is that you stick with the team through thick and thin, lots of Sens fans jumped off the wagon the moment the team started to slip. There's a lot to love with the Guard, but I feel like a lot of the hate towards Sens is unjustified. I know it's ironic considering I made this post, but I'm kind of happy that Sens are committed their roster in a way that most Valorant Orgs aren't, even if it's holding the team back.
turkey [#6]SEN will never be top NA again if they stick with these five i’m sorry it’s the cold truth
I think it's possible with a good coach they maybe could, but its super unlikely. The biggest problems they have right now is a severe lack of actual strats, they rely solely on individual performances and currently no one on the team is nearly consistent enough. I think that a roster change could breathe new live into the team and remind the players that if they can't perform there's no guarantee they have a job. But based on some things they've said on stream it seems like all 5 of them really like playing together, which is also super important to building a good team. So really I'm not sure what the best move for them is in the long run, but priority one right now needs to be getting an experienced coach
swf [#10]This scene is so momentum based its crazy, you can get left behind so fast. Look at TSM, 100T, ACEND
Too be fair to 100T I think loosing Nitro was probably a bigger hit than people realize. His CS teammates always talked about how big of a role he played off the server and he is one of the best IGLs NA esports have ever seen, rebuilding a team around him and Asuna would have looked much different than the current mess we see over at 100T
m11lan [#28]Dude sentinels literally winning NA Stage 1, NA Stage 2, and NA Stage 3 2021
what do you mean by "They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT", winning Master 2 doesnt give free seat for Master 3, thats what make Sentinels member tilting and got stomped by BBG on NA stage 3 challenger 1, they need to play from the bottom qualifiers for NA stage 3 playoff, while they are valorant best team at that time
And whats the meaning "ONLY made Champion because of circuit points", dude thats CIRCUIT POINT + LCQ the only way to VCT Champions, there is no open qualifier for VCT Champion, thats mean sentinels best NA team at that time
Dude are you on drug or what?
I meant Challengers thats why I added the NA bit is that not clear enough?
UnEstoppable [#9]They have probably been on the decline. But what talent is available for them that would clearly boost their results rn? I don’t see much out there.
Valorant is a new game, the move right now is to scout out rising talent and sign them. But Sens biggest issue is no coach and not enough strats besides hoping TenZ pops off.
But if we had to make a roster change
-zombs +JcStani
UnEstoppable [#30]I love that the Guard have fans, they deserve it. But I’m not sure how you can have seen this forum before Guard and after and not noticed a huge shift in support.
There's a shift in support from NA fans, but not "diehard Sentinels fans". The term "diehard" insinuates that they will stick with Sentinels no matter what. That's what I'm getting at.
RGS_OnToP [#12]bullshit sen won the Vct for both master 2 and master 3
masters 2, yes. masters 3 on the other hand....... Might wanna give that one to Gambit
_wrld_ [#8]They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
They did not get a free pass for masters 3
They defeated every other team and won in NA
CanadianLegend [#42]In my opinion, SEN final showing is good things to come, if they practice/scrim more, hopefully* find a coach to alleviate stress on Shaz and the team, they have a pretty good chance at LCQ’s and etc.
They haven't practiced more. They've literally only been streaming since the tourney ended even though other NA teams have already began practice weeks ago.
_wrld_ [#8]They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
and they only made champs because of masters 2 placement lmao
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#44]They haven't practiced more. They've literally only been streaming since the tourney ended even though other NA teams have already began practice weeks ago.
We don't know when they scrim, how are you so sure? Although you have a point with the streaming
dino_brains [#37]Valorant is a new game, the move right now is to scout out rising talent and sign them. But Sens biggest issue is no coach and not enough strats besides hoping TenZ pops off.
But if we had to make a roster change
-zombs +JcStani
jcstani is horrible
CanadianLegend [#47]We don't know when they scrim, how are you so sure? Although you have a point with the streaming
Their stream times literally overlap throughout the day lmao
Tokyo777 [#43]wdym?? they are streamers right? they can be benched and stream as usual...that might be the reason all branded the merch
If you're trying to sell zombs nation iPhone cases I don't think you're going to put zombs on the bench, but I guess it's possible I'm wrong
trevonnnlol [#49]jcstani is horrible
jcstani was playing much better on Pioneers and 100T this year than zombs has been on sens
dino_brains [#52]jcstani was playing much better on Pioneers and 100T this year than zombs has been on sens
hes 0 impact, guy gets eco kills and plays for stats 💀
dino_brains [#37]Valorant is a new game, the move right now is to scout out rising talent and sign them. But Sens biggest issue is no coach and not enough strats besides hoping TenZ pops off.
But if we had to make a roster change
-zombs +JcStani
they got a coach, dont know if they're sticking around i just know they worked together for the 2 days before the V1 rematch
WinterZ [#40]masters 2, yes. masters 3 on the other hand....... Might wanna give that one to Gambit
i never said the won master 3
Vct=valorant challenger tour
RGS_OnToP [#55]i never said the won master 3
Vct=valorant challenger tour
vct = valorant champions tour lmao
just call it challengers
wewZ [#56]vct = valorant champions tour lmao
just call it challengers
vct is much shorter then challenger
RGS_OnToP [#57]vct is much shorter then challenger
VCT is all of the year tournaments that lead up to champions bro...
RGS_OnToP [#55]i never said the won master 3
Vct=valorant challenger tour
vct=valorant champions tour
_wrld_ [#23]Lmao I am officially losing braincells with you.
Leave him man its not worth arguing with dumbasses like this LOL
tinted [#59]average sen fan brain
sen is horrible too, won iceland cause they had a team that was together since the game came out, once other teams got players that were actually good their best placement was top 8 internationally. -zombs +jcstani isnt gonna fix anything cuz they still do the same things since 2019
100TBoeJiden [#60]100T offered 900k for Zombs roster and SEN countered with 1.3
Thats why
source please?
trevonnnlol [#65]sen is horrible too, won iceland cause they had a team that was together since the game came out, once other teams got players that were actually good their best placement was top 8 internationally. -zombs +jcstani isnt gonna fix anything cuz they still do the same things since 2019
but it's a start. if sen wants to get better, dropping zombs is priority #1. also, if you think jcstani is bad, then youre probably not very familiar with the scene.
_wrld_ [#8]They made Masters 3 because they won Masters 2 NA VCT. For champions they only made it because of circuit points. Masters 2 was a Quarterfinals exit and Champs was group stage. Point is Sentinels have been declining overtime and there has been no evidence of improvement.
they qualified to masters 3 by winning Stage 3 Challengers Playoffs, not by winning Masters 2. Also they're still tier 1 depending on where you draw that line.
tinted [#67]but it's a start. if sen wants to get better, dropping zombs is priority #1. also, if you think jcstani is bad, then youre probably not very familiar with the scene.
if sen wants to get better they cut everyone but sick, if they cut zombs for jcstani theyre just trolling their fans. jcstani is very bad lol. cut from abx after going NEGATIVE 36 against TSM, and he just played the same way against T3 noobs on pioneers so he had decent stats. On 100T they beat EG and ANDBOX LMFAO, most overrated player ever legit plays like an idiot on smokes
trevonnnlol [#70]if sen wants to get better they cut everyone but sick, if they cut zombs for jcstani theyre just trolling their fans. jcstani is very bad lol. cut from abx after going NEGATIVE 36 against TSM, and he just played the same way against T3 noobs on pioneers so he had decent stats. On 100T they beat EG and ANDBOX LMFAO, most overrated player ever legit plays like an idiot on smokes
you're making yourself look incredibly stupid rn
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