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[VCT Masters 1] Team Rankings

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#1
FerahgoTheGreat

Here are my team rankings for Masters 1: Reykjavik. This is assuming that everyone can play such as braveaf for FNC since it is difficult to rank teams if they have a substitute. This is the hardest ranking I have ever done, mostly due to the fact that only three of these rosters have played internationally before (without roster moves). I threw in three numbers for this ranking. The first number represents my grade for the average performance I expect out of teams (1-100), the second gives what I believe to be their peak (1-100), and the third is just a grade for their stage 1 performance (1-100).

S TIER: This tier is too big, but I don't know which teams shouldn't be here.

1) The Guard: (80,90,90) The number one spot is super difficult, and I could easily see TGRD struggling in the playoffs. This is a solid overall team that I predicted to be top 5 NA before Stage 1, but that tournament will be considered an over-performance if they don't do well at LAN.

2) G2: (80,95,75) I thought G2 was severely underrated, but a slow start combined with roster turmoil has really hurt their chances. The individuals in this team are insane, but I am still not sold on the IGL situation.

3) Team Liquid: (75,95,65) Liquid have been super disappointing this year, and if they don't find their previous form, they will not make it very far. Similar to G2, I think this roster is reaching the point where if they cant figure it out, they should reconsider restructuring the team around an IGL.

4) LOUD: (75,90,85) This team has never lost a match, and it got better and better later in the tournament. The high skill level across the board separates this team from any other in Brazil, but what really stands out to me is their strategic prowess. They have flaws, but the eye test will tell you that they are always setting up cool plays.

5) OpTic Gaming: (75,90,80) The revival of Victor's form has kept OpTic afloat, but it has coincided with crashies and yay falling off. This team is still very dangerous and could easily be number one. I also trust them in high pressure situations more than TGRD.

A TIER: Really good teams that might lack the firepower if an S tier team is on their game.

6) Fnatic: (70,80,80) I think their group stage was a bit of an over-performance. Mistic was one of the worst statistical performers at Champions but became one of the best this year. I think the strategic aspects of this roster go farther than the individual skill although Derke is great. I trust this team to reach their peak more than most of the other teams on this list, but I don't think their peak is the highest.

7) DRX: (65,80,70) This new look roster has been solid but unspectacular. Their main competition in OnSlayers began to get known as having extremely poor fundamentals. As a team that has continuously just missed out, I don't think their roster moves really change that much.

B TIER: Quality upset picks.

8) Paper Rex: (60,75,70) I thought Jinggg made them the best APAC team at the end of 2021, and this tournament has not disappointed. As fun as this team is, there are still some weak links, and their style is way too loose. When their duelists run amok they can challenge anyone, but I don't see them winning if one of them has a bad game.

9) NIP: (60,80,70) I think this team has better firepower across the board than PRX, but the sample size is so small that it is hard to tell. If they handily beat Leviatan I would probably put them ahead of PRX. This team isn't on the strategic level of LOUD, but in my mind, they are better than any BR team that made it to an event in 2021 (Vikings may have been better but they were capped by the lack of high end firepower).

10) KRU: (60,80,65) It may be surprising to see them this low, but I think this team got overrated by a nice upset run at Champions. They keep representing LATAM because only one team is even within two tiers of them. I could see them making another top 4-8 run, but I think a tournament win is a bit out of their grasp.

C TIER: Probably not quite at the level of the other teams.

11) Leviatan: (55,75,60) They have done really well lately, but they have never gotten past the best South American teams. A good win against NIP could really help them and KRU into the higher tiers.

12) XERXIA: (55,70,65) Losing Patiphan was a big blow, but this team is still good. They have not been as dominant as before, however, they look fairly stable. This team would be an interesting upset pick against the B tier teams.

13) ZETA Division: (50,65,60) Japan has always been a bit out of place on the international stage. I would prefer that they qualify through Korea instead of getting their own spot. While other regions compiled their talent into better teams, Japan mostly just shuffled around. I think this roster is around the level of the old CR and probably won't do much.

Share your thoughts. Is there a team that is way too low? Way too high?

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_necromancer_
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Here are my team rankings for Masters 1: Reykjavik. This is assuming that everyone can play such as braveaf for FNC since it is difficult to rank teams if they have a substitute. This is the hardest ranking I have ever done, mostly due to the fact that only three of these rosters have played internationally before (without roster moves). I threw in three numbers for this ranking. The first number represents my grade for the average performance I expect out of teams (1-100), the second gives what I believe to be their peak (1-100), and the third is just a grade for their stage 1 performance (1-100).

S TIER: This tier is too big, but I don't know which teams shouldn't be here.

1) The Guard: (80,90,90) The number one spot is super difficult, and I could easily see TGRD struggling in the playoffs. This is a solid overall team that I predicted to be top 5 NA before Stage 1, but that tournament will be considered an over-performance if they don't do well at LAN.

2) G2: (80,95,75) I thought G2 was severely underrated, but a slow start combined with roster turmoil has really hurt their chances. The individuals in this team are insane, but I am still not sold on the IGL situation.

3) Team Liquid: (75,95,65) Liquid have been super disappointing this year, and if they don't find their previous form, they will not make it very far. Similar to G2, I think this roster is reaching the point where if they cant figure it out, they should reconsider restructuring the team around an IGL.

4) LOUD: (75,90,85) This team has never lost a match, and it got better and better later in the tournament. The high skill level across the board separates this team from any other in Brazil, but what really stands out to me is their strategic prowess. They have flaws, but the eye test will tell you that they are always setting up cool plays.

5) OpTic Gaming: (75,90,80) The revival of Victor's form has kept OpTic afloat, but it has coincided with crashies and yay falling off. This team is still very dangerous and could easily be number one. I also trust them in high pressure situations more than TGRD.

A TIER: Really good teams that might lack the firepower if an S tier team is on their game.

6) Fnatic: (70,80,80) I think their group stage was a bit of an over-performance. Mistic was one of the worst statistical performers at Champions but became one of the best this year. I think the strategic aspects of this roster go farther than the individual skill although Derke is great. I trust this team to reach their peak more than most of the other teams on this list, but I don't think their peak is the highest.

7) DRX: (65,80,70) This new look roster has been solid but unspectacular. Their main competition in OnSlayers began to get known as having extremely poor fundamentals. As a team that has continuously just missed out, I don't think their roster moves really change that much.

B TIER: Quality upset picks.

8) Paper Rex: (60,75,70) I thought Jinggg made them the best APAC team at the end of 2021, and this tournament has not disappointed. As fun as this team is, there are still some weak links, and their style is way too loose. When their duelists run amok they can challenge anyone, but I don't see them winning if one of them has a bad game.

9) NIP: (60,80,70) I think this team has better firepower across the board than PRX, but the sample size is so small that it is hard to tell. If they handily beat Leviatan I would probably put them ahead of PRX. This team isn't on the strategic level of LOUD, but in my mind, they are better than any BR team that made it to an event in 2021 (Vikings may have been better but they were capped by the lack of high end firepower).

10) KRU: (60,80,65) It may be surprising to see them this low, but I think this team got overrated by a nice upset run at Champions. They keep representing LATAM because only one team is even within two tiers of them. I could see them making another top 4-8 run, but I think a tournament win is a bit out of their grasp.

C TIER: Probably not quite at the level of the other teams.

11) Leviatan: (55,75,60) They have done really well lately, but they have never gotten past the best South American teams. A good win against NIP could really help them and KRU into the higher tiers.

12) XERXIA: (55,70,65) Losing Patiphan was a big blow, but this team is still good. They have not been as dominant as before, however, they look fairly stable. This team would be an interesting upset pick against the B tier teams.

13) ZETA Division: (50,65,60) Japan has always been a bit out of place on the international stage. I would prefer that they qualify through Korea instead of getting their own spot. While other regions compiled their talent into better teams, Japan mostly just shuffled around. I think this roster is around the level of the old CR and probably won't do much.

#7
FerahgoTheGreat
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Good plan. Make sure that I can't change my mind later after Leviatan places second and everyone laughs at how much I underrated them.

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trembolonaRage
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LOUD over fnatic and optic is insanaity

but on this one i 100% agree
"KRU: (60,80,65) It may be surprising to see them this low, but I think this team got overrated by a nice upset run at Champions. They keep representing LATAM because only one team is even within two tiers of them."

#4
FerahgoTheGreat
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I expect to get memed on when my rankings are inevitably proven to be absurd lol.

#5
nutab1e
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drx so overrated

#6
LightPhD
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Xerxia does not belong with leviatan and zeta division…

#21
Strafe7
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Thats what im thinking, although pati is good, surf has actually been pretty impressive and I think fills the hole pati left

#8
fatpoipoiiii
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Great list, common W post from ferahgo. U probably the sexiest guy on vlr

#9
kyrielight
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just out of curiosity how would you rank fpx with those exact parameters?

#12
FerahgoTheGreat
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FPX: (70,85,85) I am not quite sold on their roster, but it has the potential to be great. I would really have liked more than a single tournament to get to see them play. If they keep up their performance, they could be the best EMEA team.

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andrewdamf
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Stopped reading at optic s tier but not fnatic

#14
Noyn
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Great list, but I think LOUD didn't even show 50% of the hidden strategies and weapons, I don't think Liquid is better than them at the moment tbh

#15
FerahgoTheGreat
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Yeah I have Liquid rated very low for recent performance, and the only reason they are S tier is because I think they have one of the highest peaks if they can put it together. They could very easily not make it out of groups. Every time I look at these rankings again I want to move everyone lol.

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Noyn
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I don't understand why people are rated DRX so low, I think there are a small amount of teams above Liquid at the moment, but they may find themselves in the meta before the Masters starts

#16
qwe123
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The only team I ever had S tier was FPX
everyone else is A or B tier maybe a few C tier. This tournament is gonna be insanely close and literally any region could take this. Very hard to predict ranking for this imo

#18
Sprouts
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I agree with most of the list, I just think you’re overrating Liquid and NiP a little bit

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Mca
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I disagree with Loud at S. I think S Teams show a really diferrential in terms of what this type of Teams represent, and Loud not losing to anyone isn't something to be consider in this type of lists.

For me Loud would be an A tier, not B, but clearly a mid A behind Fnatic.

I think they are able to get to S but are not quite there yet.

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DrCamus
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Exactly, maybe at Champions

#20
archetype
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I think FNC and DRX's peak should be higher.

#22
Strafe7
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Tbh all of these teams are pretty even. In my mind theres a gap between zeta, levi, nip, and every other team at the tourney. Those 3 are way less experienced and don't have the tactical prowess either. Of the rest of the teams prx is probably the least tactical but their individual skill is kinda insane and could possibly just beat out top teams making them a good upset team but probably not consistent.

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S TIER: valorant champagne

1) G2: (85,95,85) I have lots of doubts about G2, but I hope this time could have made them progress below the pipson method (kekw), they and TL have the best firepower

2) The Guard: (85,90,80) These guys are NA last hope fr, firepower diff may cause them lose on important matches but this team knows how to play this game

3) KRU: (85,90,80) followed the entire LATAM split: they are actually keeping it up, their trades system is good af and they are playing a real Valorant, not my bet to win but they have chances to achieve it, they got the strats, teamwork, firepower, THEY GOT IT ALL, LATAM HOPIUM

A TIER: Really good teams that might lack the firepower if an S tier team is on their game.

4) Team Liquid: (75,95,75) they will have to improve their level compared to last split to do sth, amazing firepower but so many problems with roles and playstyle

5) Fnatic: (85,95,75) I'm seeing Derke going good on individual skills more regularlly, which was a big problem in 2021, but the team is the team itself who's a rollercoaster, so I don't know how to expect

6) Leviatan: (80,85,75) this roster is well known for getting nervous and tilted in important situations, despite that it wasn't the case when they faced KRU in the finals. They play a very good Valorant, almost as good as KRU, the big difference is in their firepower, but these are the two teams i would love to see representing my region, couldn't ask for more.

7) OpTic Gaming: (80,85,75) not so many good vibes with this team, but LAN experience can make them as good as TGRD or even better

8) LOUD: (70,80,70) i'm giving them this spot bc they made a fkin flawless split, but I feel them with the same problem BR had last year, bad teamplay and playstyle, the only fact which gives me hopes for this team is their firepower (it's a BR stars roster)

B TIER: Quality upset picks.

9) Paper Rex: (70,75,70) APAC is looking better than last year (which wasn't that bad for them), and Paper Rex is a good prove of that. Difficult for them to make a big surprise but I expect some good Valorant from them

10) XERXIA: (65,80,70) This team continues to be a banger, but the firepower loss is noticeable now that patiphan is gone*, so I expect a "not bad" participation.

11) NIP: (60,80,70) So I have seen the grand final between NIP and LOUD and idk what to say... not a single trade and very bad team work. They will change their coach for Leviatan match (and the Masters, if they qualify), so maybe they have a chance to correct this a little bit, but if this is the real NIP, would be a surprise for me if they beat Leviatan

C TIER: Probably not quite at the level of the other teams.

12) DRX: (60,85,65) Their change of playstyle looks bad, I hope it to create some evolutions on KR players but this team just doesn't seem to compete with tier 1 teams in any aspect

13) ZETA Division: (??,60,55) tbh I haven't seen a single JP stage match, so I will do the numbers considering what I saw in 2021 + what I expect from roster changes + vlr stats + Laz hopium

#25
noona_jennie
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Lmao, kru s tier. Leviatan above optic loud and paper rex. Drx 12, kew. L rankings

#37
DiegoMocu
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about kru, their split didn't look bad compared to their champions run, so I'll keep it on S. Leviatan guys were so close to their level, so I see no problems with that. Loud has better players than LEV imo, but they are playing worse, I know that they fucked their entire region, but you need to see their matches, they will need to improve to beat tier S teams. Regarding DRX, they stopped doing that aesthetic strats playstyle which worked for them the last 2 LANs, and doesn't seem to be working very well if we try to compare its effectiveness with tier S one. W rankings

#26
Carthage_Er_Pola
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People really underrating APAC this time

#27
sasuke777lover
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after i saw he didnt put fnatic and drx on S tier i stopped reading

#28
SLAZZZZ
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S : THE GUARD G2 FNATIC
A : OPTC LIQUID LOUD
B : DRX PRX KRU
C : XIA ZETA NIP/LEVIATAN

#29
insertyourname
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S:TGRD G2 FNC
A:DRX LOUD OG
B:LIQ KRU PRX
C:ZETA NIP/LEV XIA
3*4 split
sry for SEA

#30
JustHunter
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true

#31
WinterZ
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common FerhagoTheGreat W

#32
ravicool
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W

#33
Warm_n_Cozy
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disagree

#34
bambamskrrt
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stop reading at loud S tier when fnatic and drx is at A tier

#35
swaglord69
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man said yay fell off

#36
DiegoMocu
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