so, anyone heard anything bout him ever coming back? or he going fulltime streaming
Ultimate6989 [#5]far as i know, hes streamin for now
also if he comes back, which tier 1 team will sign him cause of image
the answer is none outside of faze
Ultimate6989 [#5]far as i know, hes streamin for now
also if he comes back, which tier 1 team will sign him cause of image
but honestly its the internet and people forget about news in like three days and you can tell theres like hardly anyone talking about it anymore, so even if he comes back theres gonna be like little hate?
HardStuckGold [#8]but honestly its the internet and people forget about news in like three days and you can tell theres like hardly anyone talking about it anymore, so even if he comes back theres gonna be like little hate?
in September, there were 4 tier 1 teams who wanted to sign him, but discussions never got past internal management staff
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#6]the answer is none outside of faze
You know SEN is still paying him right?
MastoOG [#11]You know SEN is still paying him right?
He's on contract. As soon as that shit runs out he's not getting close to the org again lmao.
delusional_sentinels_fan1 [#12]He's on contract. As soon as that shit runs out he's not getting close to the org again lmao.
They are allowed to pay out the rest of it and drop him whenever yet they aren't so lmao
MastoOG [#15]They are allowed to pay out the rest of it and drop him whenever yet they aren't so lmao
Because it's probably an insane amount of money to drop at one point? Just like in the NBA where there's bad contracts that are multi-year that can be bought out but nobody does it because it's a bad way to spend money.
bauer [#7]the dude took advantage of a woman he "loved".
imagine that was your sister, cousin, niece...
no team should ever pick him up, regardless of the game
i think there is information that you do not know, he is completely clean and several orgs want him but, he is bound by the contract, as soon as his contract ends he will return to tier 1. he has unmatched talent and the people who follow him are loyal.
From the little bit I've watched, the dude is very into investing and his finances and I'm sure he understands streaming is where he can make the most. I think he'll continue that path until he has DUMB money and feels like competing again because he hates his life (dude doesn't seem to like streaming).
kndplayer [#17]i think there is information that you do not know, he is completely clean and several orgs want him but, he is bound by the contract, as soon as his contract ends he will return to tier 1. he has unmatched talent and the people who follow him are loyal.
you are correct. he's 100% clean when the girl accusing him stopped the investigating because she nearly took her own life from all the abuse she got. /sarcasm
you forget that when riot started the investigation, sinatraa claimed he was innocent, couldn't prove it so he was suspended for 6 months. he didnt co-operate with riot during the investigation because he had nothing to defend himself with.
what information do you know from spain?
bauer [#22]you are correct. he's 100% clean when the girl accusing him stopped the investigating because she nearly took her own life from all the abuse she got. /sarcasm
you forget that when riot started the investigation, sinatraa claimed he was innocent, couldn't prove it so he was suspended for 6 months. he didnt co-operate with riot during the investigation because he had nothing to defend himself with.
what information do you know from spain?
says who?
bauer [#22]you are correct. he's 100% clean when the girl accusing him stopped the investigating because she nearly took her own life from all the abuse she got. /sarcasm
you forget that when riot started the investigation, sinatraa claimed he was innocent, couldn't prove it so he was suspended for 6 months. he didnt co-operate with riot during the investigation because he had nothing to defend himself with.
what information do you know from spain?
Not picking a side as I dont have enough info on the situation but I think you have it backwards, it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent
youngdagger [#24]Not picking a side as I dont have enough info on the situation but I think you have it backwards, it's supposed to be innocent until proven guilty not guilty until proven innocent
i understand that. but there is no justice in this case, only what was shown and his reaction.
i didnt say he should be in jail, or beaten or anything obscene.
no team should ever sign him, and if i was twitch. I wouldnt let him stream
Ultimate6989 [#10]in September, there were 4 tier 1 teams who wanted to sign him, but discussions never got past internal management staff
How do you know this?
bauer [#22]you are correct. he's 100% clean when the girl accusing him stopped the investigating because she nearly took her own life from all the abuse she got. /sarcasm
you forget that when riot started the investigation, sinatraa claimed he was innocent, couldn't prove it so he was suspended for 6 months. he didnt co-operate with riot during the investigation because he had nothing to defend himself with.
what information do you know from spain?
Did you know that riot investigation isn't the only thing that happened?
They also went to a tribunal. And the tribunal said that they didn't find enough proves to punish him. Right now he is innocent and Cleo didn't have any kind of "key proves" for the tribunal.
Heyheyehyehyehyrhyr [#29]Did you know that riot investigation isn't the only thing that happened?
They also went to a tribunal. And the tribunal said that they didn't find enough proves to punish him. Right now he is innocent and Cleo didn't have any kind of "key proves" for the tribunal.
theres nothing online about a tribunal.
not sure where you are getting your information.
this is how it went:
the girl posted the photos and texts
Sinatraa denied the claims, and said he was innocent and will prove it.
Riot got involved and sinatraa did not cooperate with them. suspended
The police investigation started, the girl was receiving threats online, was told by police she'll have to take a stand in court to say her story. she put the investigation on hold from nearly taking her life.
where is this tribunal in this story line?
bauer [#7]the dude took advantage of a woman he "loved".
imagine that was your sister, cousin, niece...
no team should ever pick him up, regardless of the game
you are right it is fucked up
GLN321 [#9]I'm guessing either no t1 org wants him, or riot doesn't one any team to sign him (probably a bit of both). I do feel bad for sentinels as an org bc hes still signed to them and idk how much he's earning rn
never feel bad for orgs they make big money and don’t give a shit ab ppl just like big companies lol. but i get ur point.
bauer [#7]the dude took advantage of a woman he "loved".
imagine that was your sister, cousin, niece...
no team should ever pick him up, regardless of the game
sheep
bauer [#26]i understand that. but there is no justice in this case, only what was shown and his reaction.
i didnt say he should be in jail, or beaten or anything obscene.
no team should ever sign him, and if i was twitch. I wouldnt let him stream
bro no way u think he should be punished for being accused lmao
bauer [#30]theres nothing online about a tribunal.
not sure where you are getting your information.
this is how it went:
the girl posted the photos and texts
Sinatraa denied the claims, and said he was innocent and will prove it.
Riot got involved and sinatraa did not cooperate with them. suspended
The police investigation started, the girl was receiving threats online, was told by police she'll have to take a stand in court to say her story. she put the investigation on hold from nearly taking her life.where is this tribunal in this story line?
we get it, you were raised by a single mother.
juno_VLR [#33]never feel bad for orgs they make big money and don’t give a shit ab ppl just like big companies lol. but i get ur point.
kind of but most orgs in esports right now are not making a return at all. Tbh I dont even know how sentinels stays afloat with 0 sponsors and paying the team tier 1 salaries. Most of the orgs right now exists thanks to venture capitalists who are hoping to make a return in the future, but most of them just aren't on the level of tsm, faze, 100t, etc.
100TBoeJiden [#35]sinatraa is top 3 player in NA, top 10 worldwide.
i agree, his game sens is insane