I'm convinced now.
C9 and NV still the best NA teams scene hasn't change much since champions.
Expect early airport again.
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Knightsofdoom [#2]Were you waiting for Optic to win to post this?
not at all, I just don't think NA improved past champions
kfox [#5]Not sure if it's comparable. Very different meta with two new agents. Optic happen to be using those agents very frequently as well
Trust me I dont have a dog in this fight, but if Optic rematches Xerxia I dont think they are winning
Idk overall korean valorant looks pretty weak except for DRX and ONS and they look leagues ahead of the other teams. Also a lot of APAC valorant is very rigid and can easily be torn down by more defaulty and slow teams where they are able to find information and casually change in the mid-round. I feel like APAC valorant has the same issues sentinels had albeit APAC is so much better playing that way.
KoreanOverlord [#7]Trust me I dont have a dog in this fight, but if Optic rematches Xerxia I dont think they are winning
Daily reminder, victor had Covid with symptoms and played subpar. Now he’s the best he’s ever been.
Revlo [#9]Daily reminder, victor had Covid with symptoms and played subpar. Now he’s the best he’s ever been.
that sounds like a copium excuse to me
Revlo [#9]Daily reminder, victor had Covid with symptoms and played subpar. Now he’s the best he’s ever been.
also cause this meta suits him more. If he can stay consistent he ll be one of the best flex players in na
KoreanOverlord [#10]that sounds like a copium excuse to me
Ah yes getting a virus that has killed people is copium. Braindead.
KoreanOverlord [#7]Trust me I dont have a dog in this fight, but if Optic rematches Xerxia I dont think they are winning
Xerxia just got beat by prx 2-0 last night, they're in lower bracket now idk if they can qualify
KoreanOverlord [#3]not at all, I just don't think NA improved past champions
Every region improved imo, this masters going to be full with some banger matches.
TomiZubi [#15]apac is dogshit my man
ur region has no scene stop. Got like 2 players ever. Dont get me started on 100t
KoreanOverlord [#10]that sounds like a copium excuse to me
Copium Overdose talking about Copium ? Ahh the irony.
onlyfax [#18]ur region has no scene stop. Got like 2 players ever. Dont get me started on 100t
i never said anything about other regions were shit, i am just saying apac is dogshit, plus kru ended up top 4 just as you tl boys
onlyfax [#18]ur region has no scene stop. Got like 2 players ever. Dont get me started on 100t
klaus alone is better than the entire british scene
TomiZubi [#24]i never said anything about other regions were shit, i am just saying apac is dogshit, plus kru ended up top 4 just as you tl boys
you just said apac is dogshit. Learn please. Ive seen south american valorant. Both are dogshit atm but we dont gotta say that do we?
onlyfax [#28]you just said apac is dogshit. Learn please. Ive seen south american valorant. Both are dogshit atm but we dont gotta say that do we?
so you are saying the top 4 team in champions is shit?
onlyfax [#28]you just said apac is dogshit. Learn please. Ive seen south american valorant. Both are dogshit atm but we dont gotta say that do we?
KRU literally shit on your best britbong team
TomiZubi [#29]so you are saying the top 4 team in champions is shit?
Ive seen the gameplay. Every region is below europe and the top of north america. Big gaps. I dont see Kru beating Fnatic ever again.
gutszeraa [#30]KRU literally shit on your best britbong team
Liquid is 2-0 against Kru been farming them shush kid. Mexican valorant has no scene why are you here. That is why ur supporting a brazilian team arent yah?
gutszeraa [#25]klaus alone is better than the entire british scene
u both trippin on gears eh? boaster >>>>>>>> cringedeus + klaus + entire region
onlyfax [#32]Liquid is 2-0 against Kru been farming them shush kid. Mexican valorant has no scene why are you here. That is why ur supporting a brazilian team arent yah?
LIQUID 1-0 against KRU with keznit (grouo stage game) and lets not talk about how they arent even in iceland💀💀💀acend spanked them so hard in champs that theyre never gonna recover from their PTSD
onlyfax [#31]Ive seen the gameplay. Every region is below europe and the top of north america. Big gaps. I dont see Kru beating Fnatic ever again.
i'm sticking to the facts tho, latam did better than na in champs, you can't discredit that
greezoe [#33]u both trippin on gears eh? boaster >>>>>>>> cringedeus + klaus + entire region
klaus beat fnc so you are smoke a fat one
gutszeraa [#34]LIQUID 1-0 against KRU with keznit (grouo stage game) and lets not talk about how they arent even in iceland💀💀💀acend spanked them so hard in champs that theyre never gonna recover from their PTSD
dumb ass kid. Liquid would shit on Kru again and again and again. Your just saying this cause their form is bad. No scene mexicans talking shit ehhh?
gutszeraa [#34]LIQUID 1-0 against KRU with keznit (grouo stage game) and lets not talk about how they arent even in iceland💀💀💀acend spanked them so hard in champs that theyre never gonna recover from their PTSD
Got absolutely no mexican players in the tier 1 scene and wanna talk shit? Your best player ever is seven a 17 year kid LMAO wtf
onlyfax [#38]Got absolutely no mexican players in the tier 1 scene and wanna talk shit? Your best player ever is seven a 17 year kid LMAO wtf
the only reason any britbongs are in t1 is because theyre carried💀
TL: carried by scream nivera and jammpi
FNC: carried by derke magnum and braveaf
i do commend britbongs on their insane meta revolutions tho! such as the double smokes split! 👍
gutszeraa [#39]the only reason any britbongs are in t1 is because theyre carried💀
TL: carried by scream nivera and jammpi
FNC: carried by derke magnum and braveafi do commend britbongs on their insane meta revolutions tho! such as the double smokes split! 👍
Its funny cause I aint even british. No scene mexico its okay sevens gonna be the first 16 year old to win a masters.
onlyfax [#31]Ive seen the gameplay. Every region is below europe and the top of north america. Big gaps. I dont see Kru beating Fnatic ever again.
How the fuck are you extrapolating all this shit from watching intra-region play? I bet your breath smells like shit given how much you talk out of your ass.
rygro [#41]How the fuck are you extrapolating all this shit from watching intra-region play? I bet your breath smells like shit given how much you talk out of your ass.
Are you retarded or nah? You watch one or two rounds and you can already tell
onlyfax [#42]Are you retarded or nah? You watch one or two rounds and you can already tell
Tell me you know nothing about Valorant without telling me you know nothing about Valorant. Go eat some jellied eel you weirdo
rygro [#44]Tell me you know nothing about Valorant without telling me you know nothing about Valorant. Go eat some jellied eel you weirdo
The gaps between regions and you still cant see it. Clearly you dont know anything about the game. Eat jellied eel? You a whole bitch wtf
rygro [#44]Tell me you know nothing about Valorant without telling me you know nothing about Valorant. Go eat some jellied eel you weirdo
You can tell by the discipline to the strategical approach to the timing to literally everything these other regions are behind the top of NA and Europe. If you still cant see it. You a dumb ass. What rank even are you?
onlyfax [#45]The gaps between regions and you still cant see it. Clearly you dont know anything about the game. Eat jellied eel? You a whole bitch wtf
"Every region is below europe and the top of north america". Please tell me how in 1 or 2 rounds you're able to determine that Japanese Valorant > NA Valorant. God I feel bad for whoever birthed you. Has to live with the knowledge that they're the reason you exist. There's a reason most people cite international competition when making an argument for one region being better than another. CTE must suck. Care to share your experience?
rygro [#47]"Every region is below europe and the top of north america". Please tell me how in 1 or 2 rounds you're able to determine that Japanese Valorant > NA Valorant. God I feel bad for whoever birthed you. Has to live with the knowledge that they're the reason you exist. There's a reason most people cite international competition when making an argument for one region being better than another. CTE must suck. Care to share your experience?
Are you stupid? Please watch a game of japanese valorant and compare it to NA or Europe. You actually sound like a pussy
rygro [#47]"Every region is below europe and the top of north america". Please tell me how in 1 or 2 rounds you're able to determine that Japanese Valorant > NA Valorant. God I feel bad for whoever birthed you. Has to live with the knowledge that they're the reason you exist. There's a reason most people cite international competition when making an argument for one region being better than another. CTE must suck. Care to share your experience?
Obv this game is prone to upsets. Doesnt make the other regions just as good.
onlyfax [#48]Are you stupid? Please watch a game of japanese valorant and compare it to NA or Europe. You actually sound like a pussy
I'd rather sound like a pussy than be unable to produce a coherent thought
rygro [#50]I'd rather sound like a pussy than be unable to produce a coherent thought
Cant argue with someone who cant tell the difference between these small things.
onlyfax [#51]Cant argue with someone who cant tell the difference between these small things.
Your argument: "PELASE WATCH EU GAMES THEY'RE SO MUCH BETTER OMEGALOL UR DUMB"
rygro [#53]Your argument: "PELASE WATCH EU GAMES THEY'RE SO MUCH BETTER OMEGALOL UR DUMB"
I never even said anything like that. But clearly you dont watch the top tier of valorant. Keep watching japanese gameplay and watch them throw round after round
onlyfax [#54]I never even said anything like that. But clearly you dont watch the top tier of valorant. Keep watching japanese gameplay and watch them throw round after round
Every argument you've made has boiled down to "just watch you can see the difference". I also barely watch JP Valorant, and was not arguing that they're better than any region. You good?
rygro [#55]Every argument you've made has boiled down to "just watch you can see the difference". I also barely watch JP Valorant, and was not arguing that they're better than any region. You good?
Dude clearly you dont know too much about tactical fps. There is fundamentals to this game that other regions dont have down as well as Na and EU. It shows in the gameplay. SINCE you cant see that theres no point in this argument.
onlyfax [#57]Dude clearly you dont know too much about tactical fps. There is fundamentals to this game that other regions dont have down as well as Na and EU. It shows in the gameplay. SINCE you cant see that theres no point in this argument.
Just curious - what exactly do you think I'm arguing? Doesn't seem as though you understand.
rygro [#59]Just curious - what exactly do you think I'm arguing? Doesn't seem as though you understand.
Tbh looks like you dont get what hes saying but both are right on some points
yahmada [#60]Tbh looks like you dont get what hes saying but both are right on some points
He's saying that every region is worse than EU and the top few teams in NA and that KRU will never beat Fnatic again. I'm saying hes pulling that all out of his ass. Not really sure what empirical evidence can be provided to support his point
rygro [#62]He's saying that every region is worse than EU and the top few teams in NA and that KRU will never beat Fnatic again. I'm saying hes pulling that all out of his ass. Not really sure what empirical evidence can be provided to support his point
Pretty sure ur taking his points out of context. Other regions are a bit behind especially in mid rounding. There are other things they are behind too. If you cant see that Idk what to tell you. Im sure the regions got better too but they are not as good as EU yet
rygro [#62]He's saying that every region is worse than EU and the top few teams in NA and that KRU will never beat Fnatic again. I'm saying hes pulling that all out of his ass. Not really sure what empirical evidence can be provided to support his point
for example I dont think a SA or APAC team besides DRX and Kru has ever beaten an eu team. And even then they have losing records against EU and even maybe NA
yahmada [#63]Pretty sure ur taking his points out of context. Other regions are a bit behind especially in mid rounding. There are other things they are behind too. If you cant see that Idk what to tell you. Im sure the regions got better too but they are not as good as EU yet
Not sure how I'm taking what he said out of context. He literally said there are big gaps and that KRU will never beat Fnatic again.
plas [#66]ur trolling right? i swear u used to be a big na fan… also the apac scene hasn’t progressed much so idk what ur on
Im literally a big NA fan, I just dont trust the NA scene atm
KoreanOverlord [#69]hahaha.
Laugh my boy you deserve this HAHAHAHA noone listened to you back then but hold on theres 2 maps remaining
the difference between all the vlr na fanboys and me, a sophisticated fanboy
ive actually played t2-t3 na pros who collect 2k a week paychecks in ranked, they all have big egos and tbh not even better than the FA players in APAC
ik of how dysfunctional the teams are and how much drama there is behind the scenes
people not practicing, collecting paychecks, teammates backstabbing each other, just overall complacency
ffs sentinel still dont have a coach/analyst
algorhythm [#76]they called him a mad man
they were all wrong.
well tbh its a bunch of plat/diamonds arguing against me I knew it was a lost cause to explain NA didnt improve anything since champions lol
KoreanOverlord [#74]im cringe bumping this shit until everyone on this website sees how delusional everyone on this threadwas
cringe bumping the bump + ratio
Cresp [#8]Idk overall korean valorant looks pretty weak except for DRX and ONS and they look leagues ahead of the other teams. Also a lot of APAC valorant is very rigid and can easily be torn down by more defaulty and slow teams where they are able to find information and casually change in the mid-round. I feel like APAC valorant has the same issues sentinels had albeit APAC is so much better playing that way.
nice analysis, too bad it didnt really mean anything
Corny [#17]Every region improved imo, this masters going to be full with some banger matches.
YOu werent wrong :v
LouBag [#100]Where ya at now?
I would say they are around the same level. This game could have gone either way to be honest.
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