More transparency on Bonecold situation

"For the team as a whole we felt that over time the culture has changed within. The way in which the core of our team see the game and how they want to play it has moved away from the way Bonecold sees it.
Naturally there is some confusion from the general community who only see the situation from outside. Bonecold is a great player and excellent to work with and there is certainly no bad blood between him and the players.
As we've seen from the start of the year these differences in opinion have made it hard for us to play as a cohesive unit and result in a range of difficulties in the effectiveness of our practice and general game plan, as well as in our official gameplay itself.
The other factor that causes a more decisive change is simply the structure of the VCT system. Due to not qualifying for Masters, we are forced to make big decisions now regarding the future, to ensure we qualify to the next event and still have the chance to make Worlds.
We felt that, because this had been a longer-term issue within the team, a roster change was a necessary step to bring us back to previous form and to continue growing as a team.

As always we appreciate the support and hope everyone continues to support Bonecold on his journey!"

via Krimson - Head of eSports Acend

For everyone screaming Kiles should be the one to be dropped, here you go

the second factor he mentioned is quite worrying for me as a liquid fan bcoz he said not qualifing for masters(which is looking quite likely for liquid considering their performance so far) forced them to make a change in the team. So might be we see some changes in Liquid too but who knows, they still might be sticking together. But ig TL should take a lesson from Fnatic they make one change add BraveAf in place of Doma and i don't how they are just playing like they are the best in the world.

Shubh678 [#2]

the second factor he mentioned is quite worrying for me as a liquid fan bcoz he said not qualifing for masters(which is looking quite likely for liquid considering their performance so far) forced them to make a change in the team. So might be we see some changes in Liquid too but who knows, they still might be sticking together. But ig TL should take a lesson from Fnatic they make one change add BraveAf in place of Doma and i don't how they are just playing like they are the best in the world.

but who would replace in the team i think they need a solid igl

Shubh678 [#2]

the second factor he mentioned is quite worrying for me as a liquid fan bcoz he said not qualifing for masters(which is looking quite likely for liquid considering their performance so far) forced them to make a change in the team. So might be we see some changes in Liquid too but who knows, they still might be sticking together. But ig TL should take a lesson from Fnatic they make one change add BraveAf in place of Doma and i don't how they are just playing like they are the best in the world.

Doma change was necessary. Team needed a Sova (who's comfortable on other initiators) to complete its comps and utilize existing strategies with maximum efficiency.
Liquid should use this approach when deciding whether it's a good change or not. It really isn't as simple as minus L1nk, plus Bonecold for example. Liquid should look at their team comps, existing strategies and make roster according to that. It will be easier to build on from what they already have/know, rather than forcefully adapting existing roster to a new player.

doosean [#4]

Doma change was necessary. Team needed a Sova (who's comfortable on other initiators) to complete its comps and utilize existing strategies with maximum efficiency.
Liquid should use this approach when deciding whether it's a good change or not. It really isn't as simple as minus L1nk, plus Bonecold for example. Liquid should look at their team comps, existing strategies and make roster according to that. It will be easier to build on from what they already have/know, rather than forcefully adapting existing roster to a new player.

W take. I do believe they should trial bonecold 100% but shouldn’t decide to remove anyone yet

Shubh678 [#2]

the second factor he mentioned is quite worrying for me as a liquid fan bcoz he said not qualifing for masters(which is looking quite likely for liquid considering their performance so far) forced them to make a change in the team. So might be we see some changes in Liquid too but who knows, they still might be sticking together. But ig TL should take a lesson from Fnatic they make one change add BraveAf in place of Doma and i don't how they are just playing like they are the best in the world.

great that they are so transparent

i think some coaching changes would be good

ragegrexo [#6]

great that they are so transparent

This is actually so respectful towards the public and fans, but ultimately in the long run it nullifies the negative effects certain fan narratives would create. If they didn't decide to be transparent Kiles banter would be unberable to him. I felt sorry for him tbh.

Shubh678 [#2]

the second factor he mentioned is quite worrying for me as a liquid fan bcoz he said not qualifing for masters(which is looking quite likely for liquid considering their performance so far) forced them to make a change in the team. So might be we see some changes in Liquid too but who knows, they still might be sticking together. But ig TL should take a lesson from Fnatic they make one change add BraveAf in place of Doma and i don't how they are just playing like they are the best in the world.

i made a post about it yesterday, i think that liquid should try and get bonecold. he ticks all of the boxes(sova player, igl) that liquid want. i have also been a big fan of the idea about shao moving to liquid, as he can play sova, even he has shown to be a good jett, and has now igl'd fpx to their first international lan.