Explaining the Guild-G2-Acend confusion

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859221046368141332/952598080807645294/unknown.png

If there's a two way tie, it's dependent on head to head. If Acend and G2 both lose their games, it's a tie, and the tiebreaker is the 2-1 series that Acend beat G2 on.
If there's a three way tie, where Guild loses to both G2 and Fnatic, aswell as Acend beating BBL - it's a round difference tiebreaker between the three teams, two best qualify.

edit; incorrect information, post #31 for info/sort of apology or whatever, common mintvalo L

round difference is the tiebreaker even if it’s a 2 way tie

https://imgur.com/a/4bqArY4
why is g2 above acend rn if head to head match up matters

commonW [#2]

round difference is the tiebreaker even if it’s a 2 way tie

https://imgur.com/a/4bqArY4
why is g2 above acend rn if head to head match up matters

Because of vlr admins

commonW [#2]

round difference is the tiebreaker even if it’s a 2 way tie

https://imgur.com/a/4bqArY4
why is g2 above acend rn if head to head match up matters

2way ties are always head to head

thank you sir

Thank you brother

commonW [#2]

round difference is the tiebreaker even if it’s a 2 way tie

https://imgur.com/a/4bqArY4
why is g2 above acend rn if head to head match up matters

Same happened with the Spanish vrl and it was wrong, I’m pretty sure it’s head to head

Mortadelo [#7]

Same happened with the Spanish vrl and it was wrong, I’m pretty sure it’s head to head

yeah exactly, KOI-case i believe (may be wrong)

Is there any official statement: head to head or rounds difference?

commonW [#2]

round difference is the tiebreaker even if it’s a 2 way tie

https://imgur.com/a/4bqArY4
why is g2 above acend rn if head to head match up matters

it makes sense to display teams based on their round difference after their game record.

it is H2H for 2-way tiebreakers - check the rules.

Big mintvalo W .

Thanks!

W post thx

EDIT okay nwm

Bullshit, fake info

Round difference is not a tiebreaker for 3 way tie, map difference is

If Fnatic>Guild and Acend>BBL, Guild out because they have the least maps won/lost ratio against G2 and Acend (3-2 teams)

Olofboost [#14]

Bullshit, fake info

Round difference is not a tiebreaker for 3 way tie, map difference is

If Fnatic>Guild and Acend>BBL, Guild out because they have the least maps won/lost ratio against G2 and Acend (3-2 teams)

source?

yungbasel [#15]

source?

It was always by map difference in all tournaments in all esports

VLR admins are showing round diff for some fucking reason, hence making you believe that it's the tiebreaker

OP also has no source for his theory either

Olofboost [#14]

Bullshit, fake info

Round difference is not a tiebreaker for 3 way tie, map difference is

If Fnatic>Guild and Acend>BBL, Guild out because they have the least maps won/lost ratio against G2 and Acend (3-2 teams)

^^^^^^
this

commonW [#2]

round difference is the tiebreaker even if it’s a 2 way tie

https://imgur.com/a/4bqArY4
why is g2 above acend rn if head to head match up matters

Becuase G2 has 3 wins while Accend has 2 wins 3head

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Trykan [#18]

Becuase G2 has 3 wins while Accend has 2 wins 3head

NA moment

Olofboost [#14]

Bullshit, fake info

Round difference is not a tiebreaker for 3 way tie, map difference is

If Fnatic>Guild and Acend>BBL, Guild out because they have the least maps won/lost ratio against G2 and Acend (3-2 teams)

This guy knows

Nbs [#21]

This guy knows

Sarcasm or fr ?

Qualify teams

ACE lose:
FNC, GUILD, G2

ACE win and FNC lose: 2 tiebreaker (ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: ACE won against G2
FNC, GUILD, ACE

ACE win and FNC win: 3 tiebreaker (GUILD, ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: all teams 1 win 1 loss
Head-to-head map differential Guild -1, ACE ±0, G2 +1
FNC, G2, ACE

Am I correct?

tRONGOD [#22]

Sarcasm or fr ?

For real.

Guild - Acend 37-26
G2 - Acend 27-33
G2 - Guild 26-16

G2 53-49 +4
Guild 53-52 +1
Acend 59-64 -5

this is round diffrence in this trio but i guess map diffrence is more important

honey [#23]

Qualify teams

ACE lose:
FNC, GUILD, G2

ACE win and FNC lose: 2 tiebreaker (ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: ACE won against G2
FNC, GUILD, ACE

ACE win and FNC win: 3 tiebreaker (GUILD, ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: all teams 1 win 1 loss
Head-to-head map differential Guild -1, ACE ±0, G2 +1
FNC, G2, ACE

Am I correct?

Looks correct to me

ValdemieGC [#26]

Looks correct to me

thx :)

honey [#23]

Qualify teams

ACE lose:
FNC, GUILD, G2

ACE win and FNC lose: 2 tiebreaker (ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: ACE won against G2
FNC, GUILD, ACE

ACE win and FNC win: 3 tiebreaker (GUILD, ACE, G2)
Head-to-head match score: all teams 1 win 1 loss
Head-to-head map differential Guild -1, ACE ±0, G2 +1
FNC, G2, ACE

Am I correct?

So Acend is in playoffs today if they win against BBL no matter what happens in FNC vs GUILD

Nbs [#21]

This guy knows

W coach good luck

You're wrong. You have to consider the map differential first in the three-way tie. Guild will be out of playoffs assuming they lose against FNC and Acend wins against BBL.

G2 = +1 map diff (G2 2 - 0 Guild, G2 1 - 2 Acend)
Acend = 0 map diff (Acend 1 - 2 Guild, Acend 2 - 1 G2)
Guild = -1 map diff (Guild 0 - 2 G2, Guild 2 - 1 Acend)

Source: VCT EMEA Rulebook - 2022
In the event that two or more Teams are tied in the standings at the conclusion of the Regular Season, the tie will be broken by the following criteria:

• Head-to-head match score
• Head-to-head map differential
• Head-to-head round differential
• Overall map differential
• Overall round differential

Olofboost [#16]

It was always by map difference in all tournaments in all esports

VLR admins are showing round diff for some fucking reason, hence making you believe that it's the tiebreaker

OP also has no source for his theory either

relatively new to following vct, only source i had was acend coach Milan
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952655949313761290/952655959224885369/unknown.png

apologies though! mb :)