https://twitter.com/McNeilColin/status/1499027600613822471
https://twitter.com/FedorovMykhailo/status/1498945221337534469
The Minister of Digital Transformation of Ukraine has posted a letter "to all game development companies and esports platforms" to stop the participation of Russian "teams and gamers in all international esports events ..."
This shit sucks. I understand banning orgs (I don't agree but I understand), but banning players??? Why should innocent Russian people have to pay for the actions of their tyrannical government that they have no control over? This is shameful. I just hope game companies and orgs don't listen to this idiot.
xaboff [#9]What does it say, can't open twitter rn
the Ukranian govermnment ordered that russian orgs cant play international tourneys
ZoldyK [#10]the Ukranian govermnment ordered that russian orgs cant play international tourneys
He "appealed" to them. They have no actual power to enforce this and I doubt game/esport companies will listen to this outlandish bullshit.
It's very unfortunate and sad that so many innocent Russians would suffer from sanctions and stuff like this, but that's the only way outsiders can take action against the russian government. You make the people hurt so then they are eventually mobilised to revolt against their leaders and try to create change from within. You do that by attacking their livelihoods and their pockets. You isolate the nationand those associated with it.
And if you're not happy with countries isolating russia, there's always the alternative. Military intervention, More bloodshed. You choose.
imagine writing a letter to ''all the game companies and esports organizations'' to cancel innocent russian players esports careers where nobody gives a fuck about outside worlds politics and the community is more united that anything this is why i hate politics the innocents suffer because of power tripping old senile cunts.
Carthage_Er_Pola [#19]Man how are you doing?
My city is relatively close to Russia and it's being shelled hard as it's one of their main targets, I "escaped" and currently residing in a small town in another district where things are quiet
Nobody knows when shit's gonna end, but it's clear that Ukraine will win the war, it's just a matter of whether Putin will end it quick with not so many casualties, or go crazy and murder even more poor citizens who did nothing
Olofboost [#22]My city is relatively close to Russia and it's being shelled hard as it's one of their main targets, I "escaped" and currently residing in a small town in another district where things are quiet
Nobody knows when shit's gonna end, but it's clear that Ukraine will win the war, it's just a matter of whether Putin will end it quick with not so many casualties, or go crazy and murder even more poor citizens who did nothing
I hope and pray you and your family makes it out this shit show safely man take care and this ends quickly.
ZoldyK [#10]the Ukranian govermnment ordered that russian orgs cant play international tourneys
As they should. Most of the orgs are sponsored by oligarchs
BunnyWarrior [#25]what is going to happen to a team like Gambit then?
Nothing prolly they just appealed i dont think its getting anywhere
Olofboost [#22]My city is relatively close to Russia and it's being shelled hard as it's one of their main targets, I "escaped" and currently residing in a small town in another district where things are quiet
Nobody knows when shit's gonna end, but it's clear that Ukraine will win the war, it's just a matter of whether Putin will end it quick with not so many casualties, or go crazy and murder even more poor citizens who did nothing
Bro I wish you the best and I hope you'll soon be able to go back to your town and just enjpy life
Giannero [#27]Edit: nvm just realized most players are russian
Yeah, perfecto, boombl4 and electronic are all russians
harriman [#8]This shit sucks. I understand banning orgs (I don't agree but I understand), but banning players??? Why should innocent Russian people have to pay for the actions of their tyrannical government that they have no control over? This is shameful. I just hope game companies and orgs don't listen to this idiot.
Ngl what this dumbass said could worsen the situation, just stfu or ask for reasonable things not "Yo bois, cancel russian civilians from everything because the government decided to invade us"
xaboff [#24]As they should. Most of the orgs are sponsored by oligarchs
They should ban russian orgs, ok fine with that, but not players
DELUSIONAL_FANS_DESTROYER [#18]Imagine a prime minister begging to a xbox and PlayStation company.
A REAL PUPPET COUNTRY
Ngl this comment kinda political
number1_MIBR_hater [#29]Yeah, perfecto, boombl4 and electronic are all russians
Bro I feel so fucking bad for them, they probably were already in a bad situation due to simple and bit being ukranian, and navi being ukranian as well, imagine getting kicked out of the org
Giannero [#33]Bro I feel so fucking bad for them, they probably were already in a bad situation due to simple and bit being ukranian, and navi being ukranian as well, imagine getting kicked out of the org
I mean, not being pessimistic, but IF they leave, NAVI won't be as successful as they were trying to be.
s1mple is a beast, but he's been cracked since ever, NAVI success is all about the synergy and trust that roster's built through years.
BunnyWarrior [#25]what is going to happen to a team like Gambit then?
Gambit is owned by Oligarchs , so they have a high priority on the banning list
Olofboost [#7]-
You argument is correct, but the aim of these sanctions/actions from anti Russia coalition is to get regular Russians out on the streets to protest against Putin's kleptocracy which would naturally lead to regime's fall. Sure, Russian security services can arrest 2000 people in ~10k protest(being generous here), but they can't arrest 20k people if Russians are out to protest in Moscow by the 100 thousands.
This is the only possible and realistic way to avoid nuclear war, it is up to Russian people to depose of Putin's kleptocracy. The sooner Russians start turning up in protests against Kremlin by the 100 thousands, the sooner this fucked up war between brothers can be finished.
DELUSIONAL_FANS_DESTROYER [#18]Imagine a prime minister begging to a xbox and PlayStation company.
A REAL PUPPET COUNTRY
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Giannero [#31]They should ban russian orgs, ok fine with that, but not players
Yeah, pretty sure that's what they did
Demise [#23]I hope and pray you and your family makes it out this shit show safely man take care and this ends quickly.
TYSM
xaboff [#39]Yeah, pretty sure that's what they did
Yeah, ESL and BLAST banned the orgs and said every Russian player that wanted to play could enter with a neutral name
number1_MIBR_hater [#41]Yeah, ESL and BLAST banned the orgs and said every Russian player that wanted to play could enter with a neutral name
Oh, didn't know about that, good decision
BunnyWarrior [#25]what is going to happen to a team like Gambit then?
ESL’s ruling:
…organizations with apparent ties to the Russian government, including individuals or organizations under alleged or confirmed EU sanctions related to the conflict, will not be allowed to be represented.
The Virtus.pro and Gambit players are therefore welcome to compete under a neutral name, without representing their country, organization or their teams’ sponsors on their clothing or otherwise.
If Riot followed suit, Gambit would likely have to compete under a different name, not tied to the org or they just can’t play
FPX and Navi will have issues with having to compete
SeulgiVLR [#43]ESL’s ruling:
…organizations with apparent ties to the Russian government, including individuals or organizations under alleged or confirmed EU sanctions related to the conflict, will not be allowed to be represented.
The Virtus.pro and Gambit players are therefore welcome to compete under a neutral name, without representing their country, organization or their teams’ sponsors on their clothing or otherwise.
If Riot followed suit, Gambit would likely have to compete under a different name, not tied to the org or they just can’t play
FPX and Navi will have issues with having to compete
Problem is: wouldn't it affect their contracts?
Glycoroldas [#36]You argument is correct, but the aim of these sanctions/actions from anti Russia coalition is to get regular Russians out on the streets to protest against Putin's kleptocracy which would naturally lead to regime's fall. Sure, Russian security services can arrest 2000 people in ~10k protest(being generous here), but they can't arrest 20k people if Russians are out to protest in Moscow by the 100 thousands.
This is the only possible and realistic way to avoid nuclear war, it is up to Russian people to depose of Putin's kleptocracy. The sooner Russians start turning up in protests against Kremlin by the 100 thousands, the sooner this fucked up war between brothers can be finished.
At the same time nobody wants to be that guy who gets killed on such riot against Putin, ideas are ideas but if you lost your life it was all meaningless, you don't exist anymore and you can't experience the "new world"
Because peacefully you won't make anyone do anything, over 100 died during Maidan protests
I don't know if you're religious and believe in heaven, but I think that every creature (human, cattle, fish, whatever) has one life, one time on earth, and it's important to not lose it in such stupid way like fucking protest, because when you die there is nothing but void
valulrantefanboy [#4]so NAVI have to kick all Russian members (3/5 players) RIP NAVI , Rip CS esport
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Olofboost [#7]-
also ukraine is the loser. they're destroyed and displaced. the winners are military industry complex of the united states.
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