They should sign sinatraa. he is the only good player available right now who could save them
dexter000111 [#5]Not a single day can pass without a dumb sinatraa thread
No cah no kapp not even trolling
Kuuga [#7]"bRo tHeY sHoUld SiGn siNatRaA" :|
enough with it. the team is final. no need to change the roster.
it's not final, but obviously sinatraa ain't gonna happen
EpicGamerGamingEpicly [#2]would be bad pr for them not gonna happen
why would they care about pr after dropping people they just picked up and replaced them almost immediately
wewZ [#11]why would they care about pr after dropping people they just picked up and replaced them almost immediately
no way you are real. what kind of sponsor cares if they drop ec1s and BabyJ? But if they pick up sinatraa, that's a brand disaster. Nobody wants to be associated with him.
dexter000111 [#5]Not a single day can pass without a dumb sinatraa thread
yea shit is annoying lmao
elayaCL [#8]0/8, they're looking good and solid rn, wrecking teams in Knights montlhy.
Jokes aside, i think they've just made big changes in their structure which need time to see if the formula works (not in names, i mean Ethan IGL and Hiko sentinel).
yea but the knights monthly its t2 teams and well T1 and TSM but yea we would have to wait for Sunday to see how they do against LG their game v LG is a game 100T must win
dexter000111 [#5]Not a single day can pass without a dumb sinatraa thread
he is the best F/A right now. whjat do you expect?????
#freesinatra #innocnet
WiseGorbachev [#13]How would sinatraa even fit? So much role overlap
bro good luck over there in belarus putin is crazy take care
Yeetus [#12]no way you are real. what kind of sponsor cares if they drop ec1s and BabyJ? But if they pick up sinatraa, that's a brand disaster. Nobody wants to be associated with him.
He is still on SEN as a content creator and currently has sponsors
MastoOG [#22]He is still on SEN as a content creator and currently has sponsors
I looked at his VOD from yesterday and I don't seen any sponsors but suppose he does, that doesn't mean sponsors 100T currently has will be okay with it. Any sponsors sinatraa has reached out specifically to sinatraa to sponsor him, knowing what they were getting into. 100T sponsors did not and could end any partnership with the org.
Yeetus [#23]I looked at his VOD from yesterday and I don't seen any sponsors but suppose he does, that doesn't mean sponsors 100T currently has will be okay with it. Any sponsors sinatraa has reached out specifically to sinatraa to sponsor him, knowing what they were getting into. 100T sponsors did not and could end any partnership with the org.
is it confirmed if he is guilty or innocent? I read stuff that said his ex skipped court so why would he hurt their brand?
Just wondering
DogeForPres [#28]is it confirmed if he is guilty or innocent? I read stuff that said his ex skipped court so why would he hurt their brand?
Just wondering
Nothing is confirmed, the charges were never pressed legally. However, given the audio clips released by Cleo (his ex) and the fact he evaded the riot investigation, many have come to the conclusion that he is most likely guilty. For brands, it doesn't matter whether not be is guilty or innocent, what matters is his public perception, which at the moment is not generally positive. And even if a minority of people thought he were guilty, not picking up sinatraa won't lose them any sponsors whereas picking him up still might.
bdzez [#32]NA val is in shambles and orgs are just not signing one of the best players in the region
yea, sinatraa should have been picked up, he is one of the best free agents out rn and teams are letting him pass just because his ex made a claim without any concrete evidence to back it up
bigpeensheen [#33]yea, sinatraa should have been picked up, he is one of the best free agents out rn and teams are letting him pass just because his ex made a claim without any concrete evidence to back it up
here u dropped this 👉🤡
bigpeensheen [#33]yea, sinatraa should have been picked up, he is one of the best free agents out rn and teams are letting him pass just because his ex made a claim without any concrete evidence to back it up
he shoulda JasonR'd her, never would have been in this situation.
jblancard [#34]here u dropped this 👉🤡
i didnt have a clown mask in my hands, besides, you want to tell me that he isn't one of the best free agents in NA rn? Alot of pro teams are relied on young prodigies, not a bad thing, but like half of them got traded away after less than 1/4 of a season passed. Sinatraa could bring some experience to some young upcoming teams who lack a leader in the team, he could be that leader
Yeetus [#30]Nothing is confirmed, the charges were never pressed legally. However, given the audio clips released by Cleo (his ex) and the fact he evaded the riot investigation, many have come to the conclusion that he is most likely guilty. For brands, it doesn't matter whether not be is guilty or innocent, what matters is his public perception, which at the moment is not generally positive. And even if a minority of people thought he were guilty, not picking up sinatraa won't lose them any sponsors whereas picking him up still might.
people keep saying public perception public perception public perception, negative negative negative
but sinatraa's stream keeps on getting more and more and more and more viewers and subs
people who are jealous of him just keep repeating the same sentence for a year in every thread
bigpeensheen [#36]i didnt have a clown mask in my hands, besides, you want to tell me that he isn't one of the best free agents in NA rn? Alot of pro teams are relied on young prodigies, not a bad thing, but like half of them got traded away after less than 1/4 of a season passed. Sinatraa could bring some experience to some young upcoming teams who lack a leader in the team, he could be that leader
he still a r@pist lul
jajajaja [#39]people keep saying public perception public perception public perception, negative negative negative
but sinatraa's stream keeps on getting more and more and more and more viewers and subs
people who are jealous of him just keep repeating the same sentence for a year in every thread
Bro you are braindead. Read what he wrote.
It doesnt matter if he has 10k viewers, he has this negative perception in public. 100t will get a lot of hate if they pick sin, irrespective of if he is gulity or not guilty.
jblancard [#16]he is the best F/A right now. whjat do you expect?????
#freesinatra #innocnet
cringe
Yeetus [#23]I looked at his VOD from yesterday and I don't seen any sponsors but suppose he does, that doesn't mean sponsors 100T currently has will be okay with it. Any sponsors sinatraa has reached out specifically to sinatraa to sponsor him, knowing what they were getting into. 100T sponsors did not and could end any partnership with the org.
I agree I was just making a point that he is currently on an org and has sponsors so the "Nobody wants to be associated with him." comment isn't entirely true. The last org that would pick up Sinatraa is 100T though IMO. There's nothing they care more about than their brand.
Yeetus [#25]PROD obviously
PROD is better off with ranked and streaming ,i don't think his flashy plays will work in pro games
bigpeensheen [#33]yea, sinatraa should have been picked up, he is one of the best free agents out rn and teams are letting him pass just because his ex made a claim without any concrete evidence to back it up
Allegations are allegations but my guy literally fucked with the investigation multiple times.
jblancard [#40]he still a r@pist lul
cant wait for him to file defamation suits against everyone slinging baseless accusations around
Riizwan19xx [#41]Bro you are braindead. Read what he wrote.
It doesnt matter if he has 10k viewers, he has this negative perception in public. 100t will get a lot of hate if they pick sin, irrespective of if he is gulity or not guilty.
sinatraa having negative public perception = gets more and more viewers and subs
yes, people is stupid af they are watching and subbing to someone with negative public perception
yes thats how it works, the more negative public perceives you the more they will support, watch and subs you..
nice logic
jajajaja [#48]sinatraa having negative public perception = gets more and more viewers and subs
yes, people is stupid af they are watching and subbing to someone with negative public perception
yes thats how it works, the more negative public perceives you the more they will support, watch and subs you..
nice logic
Because there's a difference in 16year olds watching someone on twitch, and multimillion dollar brand deals.
Negative public view for an average person just watching someone play, is a lot different from a company paying that person to advertise their product.
Raevus [#49]Because there's a difference in 16year olds watching someone on twitch, and multimillion dollar brand deals.
Negative public view for an average person just watching someone play, is a lot different from a company paying that person to advertise their product.
how much worse can the view of 100T val be, they have been getting DRAGGED online since the beginning of the season and it keeps getting worse
bdzez [#50]how much worse can the view of 100T val be, they have been getting DRAGGED online since the beginning of the season and it keeps getting worse
Their perception is getting dragged by gamers. In the grand scheme of business, they're still one of the most profitable esports orgs out there.
It's more about what's worth it. Damaging relationships with your main profit sponsors, or getting a win in an event that org themselves dont tend to make a lot of money from?
take logitech for exmaple. Imagine if logitech pay an org 3million dollars a year to sponsor them.
Who would the org focus more on? the team that is mostly a deficit to their profits, or the sponsor that gives them their large profit.
That's the difference in focusing on the sponsors perception of your org, than the gamers.
It's also why 100t are known as the hoodie org. They make so much money from merch sales, that hurting their overall brand is worse than dropping a couple players that didn't get their fair run. it's a shitty situation that caused a lot of us to lose respect for org.
I just dont understand why people always bring sinatra into a team situation, without actually thinking why orgs wont pick him up. Most orgs would love to pick him up. Dudes an insane player. He's just a brand risk for investors. It's not the morality of it, it's the politice surrounding his situation.
Raevus [#51]Their perception is getting dragged by gamers. In the grand scheme of business, they're still one of the most profitable esports orgs out there.
It's more about what's worth it. Damaging relationships with your main profit sponsors, or getting a win in an event that org themselves dont tend to make a lot of money from?
take logitech for exmaple. Imagine if logitech pay an org 3million dollars a year to sponsor them.
Who would the org focus more on? the team that is mostly a deficit to their profits, or the sponsor that gives them their large profit.That's the difference in focusing on the sponsors perception of your org, than the gamers.
It's also why 100t are known as the hoodie org. They make so much money from merch sales, that hurting their overall brand is worse than dropping a couple players that didn't get their fair run. it's a shitty situation that caused a lot of us to lose respect for org.
I just dont understand why people always bring sinatra into a team situation, without actually thinking why orgs wont pick him up. Most orgs would love to pick him up. Dudes an insane player. He's just a brand risk for investors. It's not the morality of it, it's the politice surrounding his situation.
im not reading all that.
Im happy for you, or im sorry that happened
jajajaja [#48]sinatraa having negative public perception = gets more and more viewers and subs
yes, people is stupid af they are watching and subbing to someone with negative public perception
yes thats how it works, the more negative public perceives you the more they will support, watch and subs you..
nice logic
It is not about logic, It's about business. as much as we want Sinatraa to get back in pro play we cannot change how sponsors/brands run their companies. Most of the sponsors have this rule when a celebrity’s reputation gets called into question no matter how big or small the allegations or how many supporters you have, sponsors will often cut ties quickly before they get called out.
So we cannot blame why orgs are hesitant on picking him up, sponsorships are a huge deal to every org and players. It's how they earn money they can't live off with the tournament winnings alone.
Sinatraa knows this aswell that's why if you noticed he's building a good rep.
"the more negative public perceives you the more they will support" promoting this mindset will not help him at all.
SpaceX2120 [#15]yea but the knights monthly its t2 teams and well T1 and TSM but yea we would have to wait for Sunday to see how they do against LG their game v LG is a game 100T must win
Good practice though for them to hammer out strats and agents though
sp3cbro [#45]PROD is better off with ranked and streaming ,i don't think his flashy plays will work in pro games
wdym, PROD is hope of NA
DogeForPres [#28]is it confirmed if he is guilty or innocent? I read stuff that said his ex skipped court so why would he hurt their brand?
Just wondering
just curious i heard his ex skipped court but never seen any proof anyone have a link ive tried looking found nothing