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SEN isn't going to Masters

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#1
Carthage_Er_Pola

It's time for SEN fans to accept that SEN fell off hard. They're literally struggling against teams like knights and NRG. V1, Xset, C9, Guard will all slap sentinels hard.

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KregMaster123
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100T can too!

#3
DDot
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i would say 100t are in the same boat as sentinels

#4
KregMaster123
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:(

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DDenied
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yo my guy

#41
DDot
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ah yes the double d duo

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DELUSIONALCHRISTINECHIFAN
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tsm can too then!

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Vaibhav
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SEN looking shaky for sure compared to V1, c9. I think even Rise will give them a tough fight. But you can't underestimate the experience sentinels guys brings on to the table. Might be some nerve cracking games we goona see.

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delusional_paperrex_fan
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imagine being a fan of a team who doesn't punish their players for being racist

#7
Slashyiguess
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W

#8
Carthage_Er_Pola
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Dw I'll be changing my flair to PRX during masters!

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not_toxic_at_all
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W

#12
DarkZ
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racist? who?

#17
bambamskrrt
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I think he talk about keznit

#42
egg80085
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wait im confused what happened?

#18
delusional_paperrex_fan
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keznit

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h9zard
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idk they still look great on Haven and Bind. they havent played any of their other better maps so far. dont think theyll be picking Ascent again. im not too worried about them. there is still a lot of time left to clean up their stuff.

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jajajaja
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other team losing a map & optic even lost the match = unlucky map ggs go next

sen losing a map & still win the match = sen fell hard not going to qualify for masters

wp no lifer internet user brain

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kristof
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other teams lost to good tier 1 teams
while sentinels is losing maps and struggling against tier 2 no namers

#29
JustHunter
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NRG definitely not a tier 2 anymore, they are id say on the lower side of tier 1 rigght now, just watch the OpTic v NRG match it'll show you that they really are a good team.

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DrudaL
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Maybe cuz when master 2 no team close enough compare to sentinel

#30
JustHunter
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unbelievably true. Its just the regular SEN hate that the SEN fans need to go through. I also dont feel like its something thats recent due to the Iceland major but instead it feels like its been this way since the very beginning. Dunno why tho

#31
Applefan
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also gambit and acend both losing to teams who never made it to LAN to add to your first point

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Carthage_Er_Pola
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I didn't mention optic in my teams that'll most likely make masters. Also SEN definitely fell off. Only 2 teams are gonna make masters. Do you really think they have a chance? They are no longer the dominant top tier team they think they are

#37
Giannero
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You're right, people should realise optic just isn't gonna do much in its current state

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ShadowisBAD
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shahzam jett needs to return man , i feel sad for him , hes off his main agent which hes INSANE at because he sacrificed it for tenz , hes soo selfless but gets soo much haate
also how consistent shahzam is with the op

#23
vfgid
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This guy is sooooooo cringe
We talking in shadowisbad language now

#25
ShadowisBAD
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are u calling me cringe for telling shahz is a good jett ?

#27
JustHunter
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for unironically calling someone selfless and using the word sacrifice on a vlr.gg board

#34
Riizwan19xx
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True. Shaz jett is too consistent man. But i think tenz as an entry is better than shaz entry.
I think shaz should try chamber as he can op and tenz as jett rifler.

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ShadowisBAD
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Yeah ok , will a few bad games make him go perms off jett ?
I mean sure u hate me and want to prove me wrong
Iceland they beat FNATIC in the first half because of shahz
It’s fine ppl like u will still sleep on him

#47
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Let's talk about Iceland when it's almost a year since the event. Let's look at the present. Shahzam is obviously a top 5 Sova player in the world now. Tenz, on the other hand seems comfortable with Jett at the moment than any other duelist. What if this is not their final composition? What if they are trying out different things? Give them a break man, Shahz knows what he is doing more than you.

I think it's better they play on their strengths than give everyone their comfortable picks.

#48
ShadowisBAD
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Shahz knows what he’s doing more than me
I agree but I miss his jett :( that’s why

#50
ShadowisBAD
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Plus shahz is insane at oping before I thought he could play Chamber but he later said on stream if someone was on chamber it would be dapr

#46
ShadowisBAD
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Also nice that u ignored split in the same series where he got an ace and farmed
Honestly if u hate Sen take that flair off

#49
Blazieboy
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The real reason they lost Icebox to G2 is because Shahz couldn't fulfill his potential with the Operator.

#51
ShadowisBAD
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Well I don’t want to talk bout icebox cuz their icebox was shit in that event they got read like a book

#15
ItsaMe
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oh ok

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fadezis
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Im not even a fan of sen but there is my point:
Even without praccs they are still winning matches and its enough. Also winning after a long pause from last official really hard. Try to remember eu quals: every qualifed team came from opens and also every opening match won by team from open quals. Or even fact that champions finalists already lost in their second game.
Sen just dont care about group stage ig, but after group they gonna wake up. If not - than it means they really fell off and its the end for first int lan winners.

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JustHunter
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I completely agree, I think they do practice and apparently it isnt as much as other teams do, but they really are getting work done and they really do close out the games. SEN has always made the score line close against every team they face its completely normal but now for some reason its getting pointed out as somethign that shows that theyve fallen off? Since the beginning of their days in valorant this has always been the case.

#36
Carthage_Er_Pola
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This whole Sen don't care/saving strats is very old at this point think of something new

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fadezis
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The whole topic is about sen still looking ok and people overreacting when sen just loosing map. Realistically its hard to play after long period without officials, probably one of reasons why best NA team result was by C9(played LCQ).
Champions winners Acend played before champions Red Bull finals and LVP final on LAN.
For example Optic lost their first official game after ~3months since last, but SEN still didnt. C9 playing some tournaments to save form for VCT officials and NRG pushed them on full bo3

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JustHunter
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ok first of all thats because it really is true, you can watch all the group stages so far and they really dont try. even in closed if they havent fallen to the losers bracket or gotten to the quarters theyll be trolling. Then aafter they fall into lowers they jsut start mowing down their opposition.

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DrudaL
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I hope they start practice more

#21
unironicKEKVV
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True we suck :(

#22
CalypsoGHC
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Tell me something I don’t already know

#24
S0v4k
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Not like I hate Sen, but it would be cool to see other teams at LAN

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JustHunter
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Did yall see C9 v NRG? Calling NRG a bad team is a disrespect to them and to the teams that faced NRG, they are a genuinely good team and theyre getting better by the day, watch them today against OpTic and we'll see how 'bad' SEN really is. Also the knights was destroyed by V1 but not because theyre a bad team but instead because V1 right now, in my opinion is undoubtedly contesting the top spots of the world. They are mowing down everyone with 0 effort. I feel like right now if hypothetically there was V1 vs Acend or Gambit, V1 would most likely win.
SEN hasnt played any matches in absolute ages so it makes sense that theyre going to have a slow start to the season

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fadezis
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Dont underestimate Gambit so much. They are really preparing af for every team, imo V1 still didnt played vs team that can use antistrat against them and know all about their defaults.
Thats exactly why VS team with discipline and so many defaults were fucked by Gambit for example (while won against Acend)

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JustHunter
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Gambit legit just threw against FPX like they threw against Acend in the finals. Acend also just lost to Guild quite handedly since theyre back to being Cned and friends. Also id say that V1 completely destroying RISE is quite telling of how insane they are right now. Rise is a really good team, potentially on par with C9 on a good day and V1 literally dismantled them.

#33
StrongGhostMayor
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Yup I agree with everything which has been said about SEN in this forum. SEN is a Tier 3 team now who are about to lose their remaining matches, not make out of groups and definitely not make it to Masters. It would a miracle if they make it to a Masters event and even if they do, the world would definitely end if they win against a single team.

#38
Micahfinney05
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Well said

#52
JustHunter
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yea honestly even if they do win masters if they somehow got there theyre still a tier 3 team and they were just lucky in actually winning the event. SEN almost losing to tier 2 teams is already practically a loss and theyve really fallen off, before iceland they even lost to BBG showing how all alongg they were just a lucky tier 3 team that wsa able to somehow win iceland through sheer luck

#44
gira_aspas
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My prediction is c9 and v1, but I would like to see the guard too

#53
zavicio
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not true they are still the best team in NA rn. 2-0 in their group rn btw

#58
Carthage_Er_Pola
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They beat knights and nrg my man 💀💀💀

#55
alecpog
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im sure c9 and another team (v1 or grd probably) will make their appearances at 2022 masters reykjavik

#57
Carthage_Er_Pola
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Dang looks like I'm right

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