Wardell & Subroza

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If they continue with TSM they are the biggest Paycheck stealer we have ever seen. For me it would mean they don't care about making it to somewhere like Masters. If they have Balls they would just open their Mouths and quit for a better Team.

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at this point I don't even know what the problem is in that team

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maybe the problem is the core like that's the only thing that makes sense. maybe they need to get rid of either one or both wardell subroza

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team culture, they need a complete rebuild around rossy and MAYBE levi and corey. I don't trust Wardell or Subroza with a leadership role within a team.

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except they really don't? im not sure but i believe that Rossy is the IGL right now no?

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they're the only consistent thing throughout all the variations of the team and it's quite obvious they have a large voice within the team outside of the IGL.

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Subroza is igl I think not sure though

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rossy is

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xDillan

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Levi and corey has been ass lately

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The best Player imo in old faZe was ZachaREE. In my opinion he did the dirty job and players like corey, babybay just took advantage of that to make themselves looking like they are doing some impact frags. I remember a lot of faZe game that could went awkwardly wrong if ZachaREE wouldn't have done an insane Job. Signing him instead of corey would have been much better. Also corey is a Duelist? What's Subroza and Wardell then?

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roza hasn't played duelist in forever bro lol

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zNyatt

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put some respect on Marved's name!!!

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tell everyone you're iron without actually saying you're iron LOL why would they sign zach, a controller flex support, when they were looking for a duelist? corey fits that secondary frag duelist role that they were looking for to support wardell seeing as they put roza on smokes/initiator ... and the duelists of faze didn't take advantage of anything my dude that's just how roles work... the supports of the team help the duelists in any way necessary to get frags. please stop thinking like you know how the pro scene works, there's a reason they get paid to play and you're on vlr giving ur dogshit insight xd

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sry, didn't know you're active on this site. forgive me plat 2 sensei. dude, wtf are you to talk like this? telling me i don't know how pro val works but you know it? must be your midnight drugs you have taken.

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didn't say i knew how it works my guy, that's why i don't go around telling how pro teams should be doing their jobs and who they should sign. i just go around telling ppl that think they know how it works how stupid they are and how they should keep their opinions to themselves.... peaceeee

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by telling me i don't know, you're saying you know it yourself. anotherwise how you know i don't know how it works? are you stupid? it's like telling me my my math task results are wrong but you don't know what the right answers should be. so tell me how you know that im wrong?

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yo idiot, i told u in my first post, zach is not a duelist and they were looking for a duelist. babybay and corey weren't taking advantage of anyone that's just how roles work. that's what i know and that's what i told u. there's clearly so much more i don't know and if that's the case and i still know enough to be able to correct you, how stupid does that make you? you should really stop talking, with every reply you just show how much more of a dumbass you are ><

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corey is so ass bro

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They sign very very bad Players. The Players aren't bad but not made for T1 Teams. If Aleko, corey, Rossy wouldn't be signed by TSM they would now play for Squirtle Squad or for the BBG Academy. The TSM Management is just so bad i can't find Words to describe it. They do mistakes over mistakes. They say they got $200M but where the Money? Where your expensive and quality transfers? Yet the Team just sign free budget Players that are barely known for anything.

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Corey always played on tier 1 lol
Also Levi is the best signing TSM have done, he's a great sova

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WONDERWEISS

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Beside utility usage he sucks when it comes to Game Sense and reading in Gun fight situations. I know he can shoot Darts. They got caught so many times off guard i couldn't believe what im watching.

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exactly. TSM is talented no cap. But the teamwork isn't there i guess? Im not hating on TSM, I actually am their fan but these days arent their best. Like they don't seem to really be a team?

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-wardell +Jett main/chamber player, or - corey + jett main, or -roza + jett main(this last one is eh because roza plays astra and corey may not be able to fill that)

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The problem is roza and wardell have no passion left and big egos
Look at C9. Made it to champions quarters but after a short break went on to participate in NSG. That's called real grinding
Roza and wardell making too much money to care about pro matches anyway

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youngblood

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https://twitter.com/dephhgg/status/1487655524296495106
Pretty much lmao

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They're not paycheck stealer because of how much views they get but in terms of performance yeah They're not up to standard

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Tbh, this is the standard that they set for themselves

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Why would they quit if it’s basically free money for doing nothing? Seems like a win for them personally.

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WONDERWEISS

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That's what im saying. If the stay and continue like this they just wanna get free Money (steal Pachecks) and enjoy Streaming for their own benefits. Beside Streaming they have an insane income coming from TSM. That's like living like Kings.

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what are you guys saying lmao? Wardell is constantly top fragging, I know that isn't everything but it's not like he is underperforming or doing less. It's a team game. The issue is no tournament experience. They make a new roster and don't play for 6 months and people expect them to beat Akrew who have been grinding their asses off? Remember when TSM used to be on top? They played in every small tournament and won almost all of them.

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No one expected TSM to make it far lmao, only annoying TSM fans thought they would suddenly be a top tier team. They need to check their egos and play small tournaments, would be surprised if they can even win those tbh.

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Wardell and subroza should tweet less and practice more.

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Ibis

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They are just highlight player nothing more

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Mjtchell

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TSM itself is the curse not even the players at this point

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im a tsm fan and tsm taking the L aint even new to me, i dunno why I still believe something would change but ye thats that.