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NA Fans, explain this to me

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#1
Noyn

I will never understand why Sentinels took one of the best Jetts in the world out of their main role, in my opinion Shahzam is on the level of cNed and Yay with operator, and his impact on LAN tournaments and major games is huge. Why can't TenZ just learn Sage/Sova and leave Jett to Shahzam? With the aim he has he would be an excellent player with these agents and Sentinels would be a stronger team in my opinion.

No Kappa

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ait8k
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lazy to learn new agents

#3
jblancard
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but shahzam is really good with initiator?

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shyftnot
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shahzam is a better op-er for sure but tenz is a better jett. and shahzam can have impact on other agents too and tenz can't.

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Noyn
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jblancard [#3]

but shahzam is really good with initiator?

He has a lot of impact with any agent because he is consistent and has a very good game sense, but imo it's a waste for him to play without Operator

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Noyn
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shyftnot [#4]

shahzam is a better op-er for sure but tenz is a better jett. and shahzam can have impact on other agents too and tenz can't.

Imo Shahzam has more impact with Jett because of operator and gamesense to attack at the right times

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shyftnot
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Noyn [#5]

He has a lot of impact with any agent because he is consistent and has a very good game sense, but imo it's a waste for him to play without Operator

he can play with an operator on any agent. tenz is just a better jett player than him.

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Supr3meGucci
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Shahzam is a Jett on the level of cned? Idk how you can go around comparing streamers to pro players.

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wedqatwrtgehge
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Noyn [#6]

Imo Shahzam has more impact with Jett because of operator and gamesense to attack at the right times

Just because tenz had his only bad tournament of the year in the last event doesn't mean shahz is a better Jett. I can't wait until this narrative dies already because it's honestly so dumb, before champs people were saying tenz is the better Jett and shahz needs to give it up and now apparently shahz is the better Jett.

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shyftnot
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Noyn [#6]

Imo Shahzam has more impact with Jett because of operator and gamesense to attack at the right times

there's nothing he can't do because he's on another agent without op. he's talent is not being wasted on other agents. it's just that shahzam can't compensate for tenz's stiff agent pool no matter how good he plays. and tenz is on every other aspect is a better jett player than shahzam except maybe op-ing.

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SteveLob
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Lol Shazam is so inconsistent. His awp was good on split but he baits like wardell when he awps. I agree that tenz can learn other agents, but if sentinels want to play a Jett, tenz is the best option.

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wedqatwrtgehge
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SteveLob [#11]

Lol Shazam is so inconsistent. His awp was good on split but he baits like wardell when he awps. I agree that tenz can learn other agents, but if sentinels want to play a Jett, tenz is the best option.

Definitely does not bait as hard as wardell but he is also not a pure entry Jett because he likes to op on attack, he's a mix between a baiting attacking Jett and an entry Jett.

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hekzy
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Tenz literally has the shittiest positioning ever. You take him out of an agent that has a get out of jail hard and he can't even reach double digits.

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Noyn
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wedqatwrtgehge [#12]

Definitely does not bait as hard as wardell but he is also not a pure entry Jett because he likes to op on attack, he's a mix between a baiting attacking Jett and an entry Jett.

I agree, TenZ is better Jett entryfragger than Shahzam, but I speak as someone who jinx Sentinels, the game is very difficult when Shahzam buys the operator, his zoning is very strong

#15
wedqatwrtgehge
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hekzy [#13]

Tenz literally has the shittiest positioning ever. You take him out of an agent that has a get out of jail hard and he can't even reach double digits.

https://www.vlr.gg/19089/sentinels-vs-fnatic-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-reykjavik-main-event-gf/?game=34299&tab=overview

Fnatic fans trying to forget🤣🤣🤣 (not saying he is good with her but the claim you're making is absolutely fucking ridiculous, any player that plays Jett should put themselves in weird spots when a part of their kit is the get out of jail free card).

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Noyn
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hekzy [#13]

Tenz literally has the shittiest positioning ever. You take him out of an agent that has a get out of jail hard and he can't even reach double digits.

That sounds like ego to me, he would be great if he wanted to learn agents like Sage, Viper, Skye etc.

#17
ALICEINBORDERLANDMANGAGUD
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Shahzam can perform on the initiator as well

#18
Noyn
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ALICEINBORDERLANDMANGAGUD [#17]

Shahzam can perform on the initiator as well

He's doing well with Sova and Skye, but I think it's a potential loss for a sniper so good to play without this weapon.

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unknown_trash
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Noyn [#18]

He's doing well with Sova and Skye, but I think it's a potential loss for a sniper so good to play without this weapon.

I mean jamppi made it work and he is pretty good with the operator. But he does have an edshot machine on his team that is a better entry fragging jett than him so idk. I don't see why shahzam can't do it too.

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tenz is only good in star role, shazham is the more cerebral and smart player so u move him to the sova and stuff. he also can have more impact as an igl from those roles. i hope sick picks up some sova so that shaz and tenz can run jett reyna more, it fits their style and it maximizes their output imo

#21
Gurggu
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TenZ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shahzbot in everything

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PrTsty
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ait8k [#2]

lazy to learn new agents

Unable*

#23
Gurggu
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hekzy [#13]

Tenz literally has the shittiest positioning ever. You take him out of an agent that has a get out of jail hard and he can't even reach double digits.

TenZ doesen't need positioning cuz hes just gonna farm everyone who peeks him

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yaiima0
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Supr3meGucci [#8]

Shahzam is a Jett on the level of cned? Idk how you can go around comparing streamers to pro players.

Common Supreme L

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dyoun15
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I think that with Shahz on Jett sen has had lots of success but at the end of the day Tenz is the most skilled player on the team and probably a top 5 player in the world so shahz is not going to take his main agent

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yungbasel
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shyftnot [#7]

he can play with an operator on any agent. tenz is just a better jett player than him.

I'm not disagreeing with you, because I don't know the answer. But from watching their big games, apart from on Haven, I don't see Tenz as a better Jett than Shaz. Certainly not on split and icebox. OP has a point...kinda

#27
KyLZi
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If Tenz preforms he has the most talent on the roster for purely hitting shots probably better then Shahz. At least that is what the team thinks. So, they stick him on the operator that benefits the most from the pure skill of hitting shots which is Jett. Now if he continues to do poorly at large events then they will likely switch him off Jett like you say they should do.

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Mjtchell
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I mean we also have to be real here, Tenz was a sub and they got instant results. Maybe their still trying to chase the same results I'm not sure, but the roles have to be moved around in some ways, and Shahzam at the time had a bit more versatility than Tenz. Maybe they'll change it up at some point, but when they had Tenz on Jett was when they didn't have much resources to put Tenz on something else and really develop him into a different role.

#29
Larry
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Cares more about streaming. Cant full time stream and be a pro. Just will never work.

#30
SomeDude
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Everyone after Masters 3 Berlin: OMG WHY IS SHAHZ PLAYING JETT HE'S SOO BAD LET TENZ PLAY HER
Everyone after Champions: OMG WHY IS TENZ PLAYING JETT HE'S SOO BAD LET SHAHZ PLAY HER

#31
hekzy
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Gurggu [#23]

TenZ doesen't need positioning cuz hes just gonna farm everyone who peeks him

This mentality distinguishes great players from average players

#32
cyk
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Tenz can't even play raze what do u expect

#33
dapada
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TenZ is the better Jett no cap but he gets tilted way too much, that's why he's inconsistent.

#34
MilanTheMyth
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too busy streaming

#35
nematoma
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sh1nj1 [#20]

tenz is only good in star role, shazham is the more cerebral and smart player so u move him to the sova and stuff. he also can have more impact as an igl from those roles. i hope sick picks up some sova so that shaz and tenz can run jett reyna more, it fits their style and it maximizes their output imo

i really think that shahzam needs to work on his sova darts though they really really suck

#36
ShadowisBAD
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MilanTheMyth [#34]

too busy streaming

WOW damn bro u got the whole squad laughing

#37
ShadowisBAD
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imo :

Shahz goes back to jett ( impact too much to be left out )

also tenz despite hitting insane op clips he whiffs SOO much with it
shahz needs to op . shahz chamber maybe

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Omega_lul
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Gurggu [#23]

TenZ doesen't need positioning cuz hes just gonna farm everyone who peeks him

Farming like this huh ?https://www.vlr.gg/51276/sentinels-vs-kr-esports-valorant-champions-decider-b

#39
DeluluGavin
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Honestly, from time to time I miss Shahzam on jett

#40
KilluaWeebs
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dumb question posted by a monkey

#41
noxx
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wedqatwrtgehge [#9]

Just because tenz had his only bad tournament of the year in the last event doesn't mean shahz is a better Jett. I can't wait until this narrative dies already because it's honestly so dumb, before champs people were saying tenz is the better Jett and shahz needs to give it up and now apparently shahz is the better Jett.

thats fax coz tenz is still one of the best players in the game even if he had a bad tournament and people who follow tenz knows he is a choker on lan im not using this as an excuse but like we all know he is better at online tourneys than international ones coz he loses his confidence pretty quickly and starts throwing (as in not intentionally) and im pretty sure he is gonna dominate in the upcoming vct 2022 season until a lan event shows up, if tenz is able to get around his nervousness in close matches then sen can pretty much dominate but thats a big if coz there are vids of tenz literally shaking due to sheer pressure

#42
zoa
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hekzy [#31]

This mentality distinguishes great players from average players

out of 600 languages u chose to speak facts

#43
Carthage_Er_Pola
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ShadowisBAD [#36]

WOW damn bro u got the whole squad laughing

Do you get paid to defend sen or smth

#44
INVICIUS
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starting to feel like tenz is more like a highlight reel compared to true esports player

#45
DrudaL
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they need to stop streaming, do more practice and start learn new agent

#46
Verrottenn
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shahzam is the igl

#47
kickstar
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You have to understand the situation. IGLing and playing the duelist role is not easy. In the early days maybe it was possible but nowaday its literally impossible to IGL and Frag at the same time. On top of that Shahzs Sova and Breach is really good. And Tenz is the most mechanically gifted player on the team. His ability with the Jett knifes is far superior to Shahz. Even tho I agree Shahz is the better Oper but the difference is not that much at in my opinion. So Shahz being the IGL is the issues why he cant play Jett even if he wants to.

#48
Cheasle2
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I feel like it's more comfortable for Shahz to be off Jett since he has to IGL. Yes he did it in the past, but I still think it's more effective.

#49
Noyn
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KilluaWeebs [#40]

dumb question posted by a monkey

Racista, modcheck please

#50
Noyn
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INVICIUS [#44]

starting to feel like tenz is more like a highlight reel compared to true esports player

Thats what i feel too

#51
Noyn
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kickstar [#47]

You have to understand the situation. IGLing and playing the duelist role is not easy. In the early days maybe it was possible but nowaday its literally impossible to IGL and Frag at the same time. On top of that Shahzs Sova and Breach is really good. And Tenz is the most mechanically gifted player on the team. His ability with the Jett knifes is far superior to Shahz. Even tho I agree Shahz is the better Oper but the difference is not that much at in my opinion. So Shahz being the IGL is the issues why he cant play Jett even if he wants to.

Disagree, Shahzam is also very good with Knives and hits important shots, TenZ was kinda shaky on BIG games

#52
KilluaWeebs
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Noyn [#49]

Racista, modcheck please

I call everyone monkeys, not in a racist way. Snowflake

#53
itzIgor
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I think Shahzam is impactful in any agent he touches, he is really solid. What I feel is Sentinels is so limited when it comes to different compositions, you will never see them running an unusual composition given the fact that TenZ is a one-trick Jett, SicK is the most limited flex player I've ever seen, can only run Skye and Raze in a competitive level (his Sage is pretty mediocre tbh), and Shahzam is taking his skill to new agents, like playing Skye/Breach on champions. Besides the fact that must be really hard to be IGLing and playing Jett at the same time, I feel that's exactly what happened with Mixwell, he was also a pretty decent Jett/OPer, but the game is hitting different levels.

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