If you guys really signnn in ecls as igl even tho I hope not, Then please kick hiko, and pick some Na Young Talent. if hiko doesn't wanna igl there is 0 reason for him to be in the team.
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100t KICK hiko please
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NuclearNick [#2]Most people that say what you are saying can not even begin to understand the value that Hiko brings to the roster. No one wants to win more than Nadeshot and his moves across all his esports teams proves that. If Hiko wasnt a major asset to the team, he would be kicked.
flair checkout hes obv in the team cuz he avg 15k+ views lol, its hard to kick someone who avg so many viewers
Newplayer [#3]flair checkout hes obv in the team cuz he avg 15k+ views lol, its hard to kick someone who avg so many viewers
SEN did it to sinatraa, although there were obviously some other reasons for that. Still, they would just have Hiko be a content creator, and nobody would put up a fuss. Hiko is a good player and deserves his spot on the roster.
NuclearNick [#2]Most people that say what you are saying can not even begin to understand the value that Hiko brings to the roster. No one wants to win more than Nadeshot and his moves across all his esports teams proves that. If Hiko wasnt a major asset to the team, he would be kicked.
Why is this upvoted? He's on the team because he brings viewers.
Yeetus [#4]SEN did it to sinatraa, although there were obviously some other reasons for that. Still, they would just have Hiko be a content creator, and nobody would put up a fuss. Hiko is a good player and deserves his spot on the roster.
You really said sinatraa and acted like the situations between him and hiko were in any way similar. It's one thing to kick someone out because of serious sexual allegations and another thing to kick someone out because he doesn't provide enough value to the team. Hiko's situation would only be comparable to sinatraa's if he was accused committed some nasty war crimes back in WW1 and I don't believe he hasn't received allegations similar to that.
BTW I'm not saying Hiko should get kicked out (i actually believe he should stay). I just think it's weird you used sinatraa as an example.
AltonBu02 [#6]You really said sinatraa and acted like the situations between him and hiko were in any way similar. It's one thing to kick someone out because of serious sexual allegations and another thing to kick someone out because he doesn't provide enough value to the team. Hiko's situation would only be comparable to sinatraa's if he was accused committed some nasty war crimes back in WW1 and I don't believe he hasn't received allegations similar to that.
BTW I'm not saying Hiko should get kicked out (i actually believe he should stay). I just think it's weird you used sinatraa as an example.
"although there were obviously some other reasons for that"
Yeetus [#7]"although there were obviously some other reasons for that"
Yes, but the difference in their situations was so extreme that you using sinatraa as an example made no logical sense at all. The original post's claim was that "its hard to kick someone who avg so many viewers" not impossible. Think about a situation where someone with constantly over 5k viewers was kicked from their team. You'll realize that only Sinatraa has been kicked and since he was only kicked because he allegedly sexually assaulted his ex-gf, it's safe to assume that him being kicked is the exception. Thus, you can't use Sinatraa's situation as proof that Hiko is on the team for reasons other than viewers.
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AltonBu02 [#8]Yes, but the difference in their situations was so extreme that you using sinatraa as an example made no logical sense at all. The original post's claim was that "its hard to kick someone who avg so many viewers" not impossible. Think about a situation where someone with constantly over 5k viewers was kicked from their team. You'll realize that only Sinatraa has been kicked and since he was only kicked because he allegedly sexually assaulted his ex-gf, it's safe to assume that him being kicked is the exception. Thus, you can't use Sinatraa's situation as proof that Hiko is on the team for reasons other than viewers.
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Stewie from Liquid, no? As long as we're counting other games, he counts.
Yeetus [#9]Stewie from Liquid, no? As long as we're counting other games, he counts.
If we are talking about valorant, we should use valorant players as evidence.
AltonBu02 [#10]If we are talking about valorant, we should use valorant players as evidence.
I don't see how it being a different game makes a difference.
As a 100 Thieves fan I can see that Hiko is not a skilled fragger. The reason he still has his spot is solely based off of his utility. I personally think even if he has good utility he just doesn't provide enough for a team to be at a high level. At the point where 100 Thieves is however they really need to focus on getting an IGL not replacing Hiko especially considering how little players are going to be on the market at this point.
dudeeee [#13]gl with tht lmao
hiko singlehandedly sold like 100k 100T jerseys to 10year old kids and nadeshot is making fat bank
nadeshot is gonna keep hiko no matter what
He will keep on 100T but if there aren’t results in first 6 months of vct hiko will have to step down I’m guessing
Yeetus [#11]I don't see how it being a different game makes a difference.
Less talent pool in Valorant. You can't really afford to do it as much. C9 was being respectful to TenZ because it was TenZ's decision. I mean in the future I think it might make sense but in the current state of NA. probably not.
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