Kc break apart navi 2-0 (edit: seeing how good they played fntic they might get a map but we are overall better)
Thursday, August 7th
2:00 PM EDT
Patch 11.0
KC ban Icebox; NAVI ban Lotus; KC pick Sunset; NAVI pick Corrode; KC ban Ascent; NAVI ban Haven; Bind remains
Betting
$100 on
Natus Vincere
returned
$210 at 2.10 pre-match odds
$100 on
Natus Vincere
returned
$212 at 2.12 pre-match odds
Maps/Stats
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Natus Vincere
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Sunset
PICK
1:02:25
Karmine Corp
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/ 0
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Attack
Defend
| R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.34 1.31 1.37 | 324 337 312 | 31 15 16 | / 21 11 10 / | 5 4 1 | +10 +4 +6 | 77% 85% 69% | 212 225 198 | 35% 37% 33% | 5 3 2 | 3 2 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.31 1.35 1.27 | 277 275 280 | 24 13 11 | / 20 9 11 / | 10 4 6 | +4 +4 0 | 77% 69% 85% | 208 206 211 | 40% 48% 34% | 2 0 2 | 4 2 2 | -2 -2 0 | |
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1.27 0.94 1.60 | 256 229 285 | 24 10 14 | / 18 12 6 / | 5 4 1 | +6 -2 +8 | 69% 62% 77% | 163 161 165 | 23% 24% 21% | 5 1 4 | 3 1 2 | +2 0 +2 | |
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0.86 1.33 0.38 | 118 180 56 | 12 10 2 | / 17 7 10 / | 5 1 4 | -5 +3 -8 | 65% 69% 62% | 83 125 40 | 38% 47% 22% | 1 1 0 | 1 1 0 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.75 0.65 0.84 | 122 130 114 | 13 7 6 | / 16 9 7 / | 9 4 5 | -3 -2 -1 | 69% 62% 77% | 75 86 64 | 43% 40% 50% | 0 0 0 | 2 2 0 | -2 -2 0 |
| R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.07 1.04 1.10 | 216 219 214 | 20 10 10 | / 19 9 10 / | 11 5 6 | +1 +1 0 | 69% 62% 77% | 152 146 158 | 54% 45% 63% | 2 0 2 | 2 1 1 | 0 -1 +1 | |
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1.01 1.12 0.91 | 250 288 213 | 24 14 10 | / 21 10 11 / | 2 0 2 | +3 +4 -1 | 77% 77% 77% | 156 167 146 | 29% 21% 42% | 5 3 2 | 3 2 1 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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0.82 0.49 1.15 | 211 140 284 | 18 6 12 | / 22 11 11 / | 5 2 3 | -4 -5 +1 | 58% 54% 62% | 129 90 167 | 54% 62% 50% | 4 2 2 | 1 1 0 | +3 +1 +2 | |
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0.79 0.83 0.75 | 163 138 188 | 15 6 9 | / 22 10 12 / | 10 6 4 | -7 -4 -3 | 73% 69% 77% | 104 90 119 | 41% 35% 47% | 1 0 1 | 2 1 1 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.65 0.68 0.63 | 151 153 149 | 15 8 7 | / 20 9 11 / | 3 0 3 | -5 -1 -4 | 42% 38% 46% | 92 91 93 | 34% 43% 29% | 1 0 1 | 5 3 2 | -4 -3 -1 |
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Defend
| R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.34 1.35 1.34 | 287 281 300 | 50 21 29 | / 34 16 18 / | 14 10 4 | +16 +5 +11 | 77% 82% 72% | 188 184 191 | 31% 33% 30% | 7 4 3 | 5 3 2 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.09 1.31 1.21 | 253 276 234 | 44 22 22 | / 33 20 13 / | 6 4 2 | +11 +2 +9 | 68% 68% 68% | 153 170 138 | 29% 31% 26% | 9 4 5 | 5 3 2 | +4 +1 +3 | |
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1.19 1.24 1.21 | 269 243 294 | 43 19 24 | / 37 16 21 / | 19 6 13 | +6 +3 +3 | 74% 73% 76% | 191 175 206 | 39% 46% 34% | 4 0 4 | 7 2 5 | -3 -2 -1 | |
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1.05 1.00 1.02 | 141 150 127 | 26 13 13 | / 26 13 13 / | 12 7 5 | 0 0 0 | 72% 73% 72% | 100 109 93 | 28% 39% 21% | 2 1 1 | 1 1 0 | +1 0 +1 | |
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0.50 0.97 0.75 | 141 110 166 | 23 9 14 | / 31 16 15 / | 17 4 13 | -8 -7 -1 | 70% 55% 84% | 86 70 101 | 47% 48% 46% | 3 0 3 | 4 4 0 | -1 -4 +3 |
| R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.03 0.98 1.01 | 219 247 194 | 40 24 16 | / 37 20 17 / | 4 1 3 | +3 +4 -1 | 70% 64% 77% | 148 157 137 | 39% 33% 50% | 7 4 3 | 8 6 2 | -1 -2 +1 | |
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0.93 1.03 0.98 | 215 201 231 | 33 17 16 | / 36 20 16 / | 11 5 6 | -3 -3 0 | 64% 60% 68% | 140 130 152 | 40% 40% 41% | 5 3 2 | 2 1 1 | +3 +2 +1 | |
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0.65 1.23 0.92 | 206 170 250 | 35 14 21 | / 37 21 16 / | 12 6 6 | -2 -7 +5 | 62% 52% 73% | 142 120 167 | 43% 42% 45% | 6 2 4 | 6 4 2 | 0 -2 +2 | |
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0.73 1.02 0.87 | 185 152 217 | 29 12 17 | / 38 21 17 / | 20 9 11 | -9 -9 0 | 72% 64% 82% | 115 98 134 | 42% 36% 48% | 2 0 2 | 3 1 2 | -1 -1 0 | |
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0.67 0.66 0.67 | 150 153 148 | 24 13 11 | / 38 20 18 / | 10 6 4 | -14 -7 -7 | 55% 56% 55% | 97 97 98 | 36% 36% 36% | 2 0 2 | 6 4 2 | -4 -4 0 |
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Natus Vincere
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Corrode
PICK
45:07
Karmine Corp
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| R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.35 1.39 1.31 | 249 199 287 | 19 6 13 | / 13 5 8 / | 9 6 3 | +6 +1 +5 | 76% 78% 75% | 159 126 184 | 26% 24% 27% | 2 1 1 | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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1.22 0.63 1.66 | 163 107 205 | 14 3 11 | / 9 6 3 / | 7 6 1 | +5 -3 +8 | 81% 78% 83% | 122 85 150 | 22% 27% 20% | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | +1 0 +1 | |
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1.13 1.31 0.99 | 250 345 180 | 20 12 8 | / 15 8 7 / | 1 0 1 | +5 +4 +1 | 67% 78% 58% | 140 183 108 | 41% 44% 36% | 4 3 1 | 2 2 0 | +2 +1 +1 | |
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1.09 0.95 1.20 | 260 196 310 | 19 6 13 | / 17 7 10 / | 9 2 7 | +2 -1 +3 | 71% 78% 67% | 171 132 200 | 37% 41% 34% | 2 0 2 | 3 0 3 | -1 0 -1 | |
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0.75 0.27 1.11 | 160 80 222 | 10 2 8 | / 15 7 8 / | 8 0 8 | -5 -5 0 | 71% 44% 92% | 101 47 141 | 50% 67% 44% | 3 0 3 | 2 2 0 | +1 -2 +3 |
| R2.0 | ACS | K | D | A | +/– | KAST | ADR | HS% | FK | FD | +/– | ||
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1.17 1.41 0.86 | 218 266 156 | 15 11 4 | / 14 9 5 / | 6 3 3 | +1 +2 -1 | 71% 67% 78% | 155 173 131 | 31% 31% 29% | 1 1 0 | 1 0 1 | 0 +1 -1 | |
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1.00 0.93 1.08 | 187 204 167 | 16 10 6 | / 16 10 6 / | 2 1 1 | 0 0 0 | 62% 50% 78% | 138 147 126 | 57% 53% 67% | 2 1 1 | 5 4 1 | -3 -3 0 | |
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0.96 0.63 1.40 | 206 167 258 | 14 6 8 | / 16 11 5 / | 10 3 7 | -2 -5 +3 | 71% 58% 89% | 127 106 156 | 43% 38% 50% | 1 0 1 | 1 0 1 | 0 0 0 | |
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0.73 0.22 1.42 | 196 117 302 | 15 4 11 | / 18 12 6 / | 1 1 0 | -3 -8 +5 | 52% 42% 67% | 130 91 182 | 31% 36% 29% | 4 2 2 | 4 3 1 | 0 -1 +1 | |
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0.69 0.67 0.72 | 149 152 146 | 9 5 4 | / 18 11 7 / | 7 6 1 | -9 -6 -3 | 71% 75% 67% | 103 103 104 | 39% 32% 50% | 1 0 1 | 1 1 0 | 0 -1 +1 |
Head-to-head
Past Matches
KC did not look better against FNATIC than NAVI? The NAVI series was 1. way closer than the KC series and 2. NAVI were getting the first blood and playing the beginning of the rounds almost perfectly, and FNATIC got saved by hero plays practically every round. KC was incredibly messy against KOI and KOI looked abysmal. You are giving way too much credit to KC
ok ok isee where the pb is soo in valorant u have multiple stile where fntic and navi trie to do the "boring" kinda stile kc in way more explosive and based on trade and trust between players where u see messy they see and not as structure playstile that does work really well and did pur fntc on the back foot the difference between stile doesn't mean kc are bad would you say prx are bad ? would you say t1 are bad ? would you say rrq are bad ? the only difference is that kc are in a weaker regions so u don't give them as much credit but its a missunderstanding off what the win condition are for each team and what gameplan they follow + navi need 1st blood cause they aren't as skilled as kc's players
PRX and RRQ do not have a playstyle similar to KC, the only similarity is the fast-paced nature of their games. Not speaking for T1 because I haven't watched their games, but PRX and RRQ have a very solid understanding of the game whereas KC make questionable call after questionable call every game with even more questionable comps. Calling NAVI players unskilled is just not true and saying NAVI need first bloods doesn't really make any sense because all teams should be aiming to do that.
U missed what i meant with the first blood completely and i didn't called em unskilled i said and its true that kc's player are better (iff you don't agree its useless talking cause ir delulu) look at kc's game look at the set execute and dare say it doesn't look like rrq or prx ( im not saying they are as good but. Its the same type of plays) + they know eachother way more i feel like u could compare what you call mess. With last year fut plays which aimed at disturbing enemies in retake or basic default which work well in europe. Now questionnable calls u gotta tell me example. It possible but i reviewed some games and i didn't see atrocious call as you seem to be calling upon
I don't agree that the KC players are better? Hiro Ruxic and Alexiiik are some of the most talented players in the scene rn, Shao is a very storied player and Ange1 is one of the most experienced IGLs in the game. If you want to see examples of messy KC just look at KC vs Apeks 2 weeks ago. That game was atrocious by both teams. KC was the overwhelming favorite coming into that game, and they should have lost. KC is one of the most inconsistent EMEA teams.
I think u could say sunset was bad but on lutos apks had really good round start some off the best util usage until spile plant tbh so. Ok on 1/3rd of the bo. Kc played bad. Bit stille i think. Ots unfair to the way u see the game its fps before all. Kc have. Marteen a top 10 players even if rn he isn't at his top avez + elite are real goos suy in top10 emea and sadhaak is a better igl so still think ur really mistaken but im bot worried kc has a lot off hater hater that will be shut when we win champs
Without being a hater, Navi played pretty well against Fnatic, never getting stomped on any of the three maps, while KC seemed to struggle against the two worst teams in the group (KOI & Apeks), losing one map and getting caught off guard a lot.
I think Navi will be less forgiving of these mistakes and more punitive. I think it will be an interesting and close match.
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