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Is EMEA the worst region?

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#1
Camden

Reasons why i think so

  • Half the teams half imports from Americas (china has imports from pacific but china is technically a pacific country [russia and Australia are also technically in the pacific countries])
  • worst placement in masters bangkok
  • The region with the longest international trophy drought
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Jivko
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0/8

#3
Galactc
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0/8

#4
irishsamingg
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0/8

#5
malims
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0/8

#6
Uncleben
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Region with the longest international trophy drought but they made 2 grand finals back to back, kind of a disingenuous argument, meaning they are still competitive

#11
Camden
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Im not saying they arent competitve. Im just saying they are the worst region

since emea's last trophy
emea 2 grand finals (0 wins)
americas 3 grand finals (2 wins)
pacific 4 grand finals (2 wins)
china 1 grand finals (1 win)

Maybe you could say china is worst region but they are defending world champs right now so idk

#13
malims
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????????????

#15
Galactc
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This just isn't true info where is this from???

#17
Camden
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how is it not true?

#18
malims
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there has NOT been 10 grand finals since EMEA's last win are you mad

#19
malims
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nm I'm stupid LMAO

#23
MrBlooBloom
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Do you know that there are two teams in a grand final?

#52
malims
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do you not see what I said after

#55
MrBlooBloom
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Free impression farming

#56
malims
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Free making mistakes farming

#20
Galactc
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If we are only counting franchising China has 1
Emea has 4 not 2
Americas has 4 not 3
Apac has 5 not 4
Where is your information from?

#22
Camden
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I said since EMEA's last trophy

#53
fr0ster0p
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you mix up america and apac after franchising i think apac is 4 2023 champs 2024 both master and 2025 master

ans america 2023 all final 2024 1st master and 2025 1st master

#21
Camden
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since emea last trophy

EG vs PRX
SEN vs GENG
GENG vs TH
EDG vs TH
T1 vs G2

emea 2 grand finals (0 wins)
americas 3 grand finals (2 wins)
pacific 4 grand finals (2 wins)
china 1 grand finals (1 win)

#46
Congo1
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Fair take from an American. Rare sight

#7
USCK
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How does Emea have the longest international draught when Pacific couldn’t win anything for 3 years

#9
Uncleben
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He’s manipulating data to support his argument
Might be a politician in disguise

#14
Camden
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well i guess i didnt make it clear that I meant which region is currently the worst. Emea as the current longest international drought. Also the worst performing region at the most recent international

#16
washedradiant
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It was clear, some people just take more time to comprehend.

#8
washedradiant
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people saying 0/8 when everything you said is true. Saying the truth = baiting for EMEA fans KKKKKKKKKKKK

#10
catNmouse
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all regions are equally good people just don’t want to accept that

#12
Rakooon
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All regions can be competitive but they are not all equally good.

#24
fictional
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best in football

#25
AngelLV2002
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I would say that the worst region is China (only EDG plays internationally), what there is this season is that in EMEA, Pacific and Americas there is a very large level gap, for example in Americas they are (G2, Sentinels, MIBR and KRU) in Pacific (the 4 Koreans ) and in EMEA (FNATIC, Vitality, KC and Heretics) the other teams in those leagues are very irregular or very bad.
Psd: Why do they put 0-8?

#26
irishsamingg
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i agree china has always has been the worst as a region always has been carried by edg

#27
wagonVAL
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they put 0/8 cause freemea cant refute that they are currently the worst region so they instead call it a bait/stupid post (0/8 rhymes with bait)

#29
Effluxi
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na has one good team and it's a European org. your other two contenders are sa.

also, the NA imports in EMEA literally keep getting farmed... if the orgs all actually took rookies from T2, guaranteed they'd perform better. Just look at CyvOph. Bro looks like the best player on a team with Derke and Less 💀

#32
LouBag
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yeah.... because giants are doing so well with their t2 players

#34
Effluxi
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that's a gx problem not a T2 problem. NRG has done the same thing with two rookies back to back except the first one is now frying on the current best team in Brazil.

don't pretend your region doesn't troll rookie development in their own way too.

#36
Rakooon
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The second one as well though, Brawk is the best player on NRG right now.

#41
Effluxi
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honestly I think s0m is better if he wasn't married to the gold igl but ignoring that being the best player on NRG right now is not an accomplishment.

The only talent on that team is the management for being so unbelievably good at throwing people under the bus.

#38
wagonVAL
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Everything is on performance of those top teams. Thats why china was the best at champs, cause they won. who cares about having 2 good teams if neither can win yk (I don't know why youre splitting up the Americas to begin with)

As for the americas imports went to EMEA cause they are americas rejects nobody wanted them. koalanoob? only got in cause of Happy nepotism. flyuh? he was DOGSHIT im surprised emea even took him, ones mans trash is another mans treasure I guess. governor? pacific AND americas reject yall looking for scraps. crashies is the goat dont call him bad. florescent? literally the best player on that t2 freemea roster

#39
Tomczi
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"crashies is the goat dont call him bad" 🐺🐺🐺

#40
Effluxi
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Crashies is fine but nothing a T2 player couldn't have matched. The only reason he got imported instead of a T2 player picked up is because they were hoping he'd be very temporary and Leo would get to come back, so training the T2 player would be wasted. Of course, that's not what happened.

Flor is easily the best player on Apeks and I wasn't arguing against that incredibly low bar. She's not classed as an import and your government probably doesn't want her back anyway, but yes, she's probably the best option Apeks could've gotten and they're lucky another team wasn't willing to pay her more.

Don't ask me why the fuck koala, flyuh and ESPECIALLY governor are even here, that was literally part of my point. Why they aren't T2 pickups instead only the dumbass orgs know, but they are signed and they are dog.

#42
Camden
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why did you have to specifically separate NA out as a subregion. Thats like wondering where your African players are at. Also why does org matter that's like saying FPX won masters for china. Also who is getting farmed from Americas besides governer and flyuh maybe saadhak as well, but they other like 5 imports from Americas are doing fine

#44
Effluxi
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I picked on NA cuz flag i was replying to.

It's not like wondering where the African players in EMEA are because NA is one of the better funded subregions and there's barely a scene in Africa. Awful comparison.

Org matters because management diff is blatantly obvious. Look at NRG and C9 and tell me their management isn't trolling.

I cover the NA players in #40. sa is excellent talent wise and honestly teams should be poaching their players unless their orgs pull their shit together.

#45
Camden
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so whats the best united kingdom team

#47
Effluxi
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uh... FNC....?

#28
Tomczi
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"0/8" is when someone just says braindead take

#30
Tomczi
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0/8
EMEA haters try to activate their only 2 brain cells (challenge impossible)

#31
LouBag
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it really goes to show that having 10 teams in a region is to many

no region has more than 4-6 good teams.

when riot first suggested 8 team regions it seemed way to small, but now I can see their point.

#33
USCK
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8 team region is a horrible idea because it kills the pro scene for any team outside the 8 teams in that region if t2 teams can’t compete for a t1 spot then there is no point of t2 to exist

#37
LouBag
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I agree.

but I also think that the leagues become watered down the more teams you add.

it's a weird line and I don't know the answer.

but everyone has to admit that having 4 dogshit teams in each league is kind of weird.

#49
HIMNIJ
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idk i think if you only watched good teams play against good teams games would get more repetitve, its fun seeing a stomp every now and then, and its fun seeing one of those "shit teams" have a popoff and win a map or game they werent expected to.

#35
Tomczi
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More teams=more matches to watch that's a + but the quality of certain matches will be bad so its something for something

#48
Effluxi
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8 partnered teams + 4 slots with other access routes is fine. Just cut C9/NRG + Furia, GX + BBL and DFM + a KR org.

#43
31Raven
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0/8 try again

#50
erickwak
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While there are anomalies like furia, you can legit see the lower teams in emea like koi lacking fundamentals. They have legit been peeking 1 by 1 for the last 3 years and have always stayed the same feels like. While the middle-of-the-pack teams just have a bit of firepower and aren't really that special outside of that tbh. Even the top of EMEA is inconsistent; at this moment in time, you can't even really say you're confident an EMEA team can win an international.

#51
n1zf
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Nice i agree with what you said

#54
penop
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yes emea is the worst region

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