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Is SEA better than LATAM or SA?

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TOONSTEVE

what do you think?

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ciro
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I think most people are assuming that they are far better, idk why but SEA hasnt done pretty great in Berlin or Iceland

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Noyn
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Do you think TS, FS, and X10 are better than KRU, VK (Heat + Mwzera), Vikings, Furia, and Australs?

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Noyn [#3]

Do you think TS, FS, and X10 are better than KRU, VK (Heat + Mwzera), Vikings, Furia, and Australs?

x10 in iceland were a two-man army, only foxz and pati were playing kinda well

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In my opinion they are regions of the same level, APAC has more good teams in general, but tier 1 of these regions is close

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Noyn [#3]

Do you think TS, FS, and X10 are better than KRU, VK (Heat + Mwzera), Vikings, Furia, and Australs?

Not better than KRU and Furia but probably better than the rest.

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LATAM=>SEA>SA

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dJ3096
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not more than KRU due to experience but the region as a whole is better I think

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SA got far better players imo , heat , sacy , mwzera , aspas (recently watched this guys stream and he has unreal aim ) and so many more , i think individually SA + LATAM > All of Asia (including VS) . I think Heat alone is better than any Asian player .

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Basedobserver [#9]

SA got far better players imo , heat , sacy , mwzera , aspas (recently watched this guys stream and he has unreal aim ) and so many more , i think individually SA + LATAM > All of Asia (including VS) . I think Heat alone is better than any Asian player .

Agreed but F0rsaken and JohnOlsen/PTC are very good players

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SEA has more depth than LATAM, but KRU is better than the top SEA teams. SEA is better than Brazil overall IMO, although it seems like Furia might have finally got their shit together. The 3 top SEA teams (TS, FS, PRX) are better than the top Brazilian teams, but idk how good X10 will be. Brazil and SEA have similar levels of depth. Brazil has HL, VK, VKS, GLB, Sharks, & Furia, while SEA has Boom, X10, TS, FS, Alter ego & PRX. The Brazilian teams are closer to the top than SEA though, the skill gap in brazil is close enough that any of those top teams can win. In SEA, there is a drop between the 4th team (probably X10 or PRX) and the 5th-6th teams (Boom, Alter ego).

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Basedobserver [#9]

SA got far better players imo , heat , sacy , mwzera , aspas (recently watched this guys stream and he has unreal aim ) and so many more , i think individually SA + LATAM > All of Asia (including VS) . I think Heat alone is better than any Asian player .

I definitely see LATAM + Brazil having more skill than SEA, but definitely not all of Asia. SK Rossi, Hyeoni, The whole VS roster and their bench, Forsaken, Patiphan, etc. There are just too many teams and players in Asia bc it's such a big region (4+ billion people).

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Psion [#11]

SEA has more depth than LATAM, but KRU is better than the top SEA teams. SEA is better than Brazil overall IMO, although it seems like Furia might have finally got their shit together. The 3 top SEA teams (TS, FS, PRX) are better than the top Brazilian teams, but idk how good X10 will be. Brazil and SEA have similar levels of depth. Brazil has HL, VK, VKS, GLB, Sharks, & Furia, while SEA has Boom, X10, TS, FS, Alter ego & PRX. The Brazilian teams are closer to the top than SEA though, the skill gap in brazil is close enough that any of those top teams can win. In SEA, there is a drop between the 4th team (probably X10 or PRX) and the 5th-6th teams (Boom, Alter ego).

Based

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andreyoliveira7
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One team isn't the entire region, you guys need to remember that when talking about regions. SEA is more competitive then LATAM whose is dominated by KRU.

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Yes but the inconsistency of SEA team is just too high,
Some people will say that the competition in SEA is just too tight,

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futoi
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SEA > LATAM. ez

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Psion [#11]

SEA has more depth than LATAM, but KRU is better than the top SEA teams. SEA is better than Brazil overall IMO, although it seems like Furia might have finally got their shit together. The 3 top SEA teams (TS, FS, PRX) are better than the top Brazilian teams, but idk how good X10 will be. Brazil and SEA have similar levels of depth. Brazil has HL, VK, VKS, GLB, Sharks, & Furia, while SEA has Boom, X10, TS, FS, Alter ego & PRX. The Brazilian teams are closer to the top than SEA though, the skill gap in brazil is close enough that any of those top teams can win. In SEA, there is a drop between the 4th team (probably X10 or PRX) and the 5th-6th teams (Boom, Alter ego).

SEA lost to Brazil in iceland, wait untill the two regions confront each other again to say SEA is better

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andreyoliveira7 [#14]

One team isn't the entire region, you guys need to remember that when talking about regions. SEA is more competitive then LATAM whose is dominated by KRU.

Cara o pior time atual do SEA perdeu pra VKS, e a VKS atualmente n é melhor q a fúria, VK, KRU, então não faz tanto sentido assim eles serem melhores não, pra mim estão no msm nível

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cta [#17]

SEA lost to Brazil in iceland, wait untill the two regions confront each other again to say SEA is better

idk why you are using Iceland(like 5 months ago) to gauge if SEA or Brazil is better now, but if we are, then Nuturn played better than the Brazilian teams at Iceland, but lost to the SEA teams at APAC LCQ. The meta was way different in Iceland than in LCQ. The level of play I saw in the SA LCQ was much lower than that of the APAC LCQ.

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cta [#18]

Cara o pior time atual do SEA perdeu pra VKS, e a VKS atualmente n é melhor q a fúria, VK, KRU, então não faz tanto sentido assim eles serem melhores não, pra mim estão no msm nível

Pra mim é mesmo nivel também, o que falo é que não tem sentido falar de região se ta falando de confronto direto. Região envolve estrutura, campeonatos, times que formam um cenario competitivo. Se for ver times que disputaram First Strike, hoje, menos de um ano depois não existem mais. Os times da LAS treinam com os BR, os times LAN com os americanos, isso indica que algo na região não ta certo, não tem um desenvolvimento da região, são sempre os mesmos times disputando.

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Sprouts
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SEA > LATAM
KRU > TS, FS, PRX

As a region SEA is better, but LATAM’s best team is currently better
Simple as that imo

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Sprouts [#21]

SEA > LATAM
KRU > TS, FS, PRX

As a region SEA is better, but LATAM’s best team is currently better
Simple as that imo

yep defo agree. KRU to me has always looked really good (even at Iceland)

#23
boea0
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EZ *overall tierlist
NA>CIS/EU>TR>SEA>LATAM/KR>JP/Bronzil

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Yugure
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KRU>SEA=BRAZIL=JAPAN=AUSTRALS>LATAM

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