Perfect valorant never existed, does not exist, and will never exist.
EVER.
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Shadow_Monarch [#6]Prime FNATIC, current DRX, and current VIT are closest to it as of yet.
Curreny drx and vit played 1 game internationally lmao
Clucker [#15]Curreny drx and vit played 1 game internationally lmao
Downvoters getting baited hard :D
BUT there is potential :)
BEHEMOTH [#7]It existed with Gambit, you need a CIS super team to pull that off
These other trash ass regions don't have that in them that's why they keep getting owned in CS.
Sadly Riot's too much of a pussy to allow that hahaha
IGNORE THIS GUY
HE DOESNT SPEAK FOR US REAL GAMBIT FANS
Froggy0_0 [#12]YEAH BUT IT MAKES US LOOK BAD ANYWAY
How did I go from not knowing about BEHEMOTH at all 2 weeks ago to me trying to not get baited by him? Is this Simp4S0m's alt?
Froggy0_0 [#10]IGNORE THIS GUY
HE DOESNT SPEAK FOR US REAL GAMBIT FANS
'Real gambit fans'
Blud did you even watch Gambit running prefect execs??? Even the world's best observer will miss the kills every time, they literally used to kill everyone in sync, everyone knew what they had to hold and clear.
BEHEMOTH [#13]'Real gambit fans'
Blud did you even watch Gambit running prefect execs??? Even the world's best observer will miss the kills every time, they literally used to kill everyone in sync, everyone knew what they had to hold and clear.
what happened to d3ffo now bro???????
Tell me what happened since ur a Gambit fan.
delighted [#16]what happened to d3ffo now bro???????
Tell me what happened since ur a Gambit fan.
d3ffo had physical and mental issue, latter of which could've been easily solved by Gambit if they weren't shut down.
If you had seen Gambit in other esports, you would have known that they used to get the best out of their players and it was no coincidence or luck, just pure hard work. Its not just an Engh thing that his teams scrim for hours, he incorporated that from Gambit, something that even GOAT IGL like Saadhak thinks is special in all ways. Also Gambit's CS academy team literally had multiple top 5 players in the world.
If you had watched d3ffo in Gambit, he was literally used as a bait all the time, he had elite space taking capabilities and then Chronicle, nAts and Sheydos used to clean the house, following the path that he had created.
Gambit didn't even fall off, they got super unlucky against Fnatic and lost a game to the best team of that time, FPX in multiple OTs. It was already over when they became M3C and were no longer under Gambit's umbrella.
BEHEMOTH [#21]d3ffo had physical and mental issue, latter of which could've been easily solved by Gambit if they weren't shut down.
If you had seen Gambit in other esports, you would have known that they used to get the best out of their players and it was no coincidence or luck, just pure hard work. Its not just an Engh thing that his teams scrim for hours, he incorporated that from Gambit, something that even GOAT IGL like Saadhak thinks is special in all ways. Also Gambit's CS academy team literally had multiple top 5 players in the world.
If you had watched d3ffo in Gambit, he was literally used as a bait all the time, he had elite space taking capabilities and then Chronicle, nAts and Sheydos used to clean the house, following the path that he had created.
Gambit didn't even fall off, they got super unlucky against Fnatic and lost a game to the best team of that time, FPX in multiple OTs. It was already over when they became M3C and were no longer under Gambit's umbrella.
Here's a counterpoint:
We haven't seen any Gambit players shine in other metas other than Chronicle and nAts. I also think Gambit disbanding is a great thing to happen in the EMEA scene in the long run.
delighted [#27]Here's a counterpoint:
We haven't seen any Gambit players shine in other metas other than Chronicle and nAts. I also think Gambit disbanding is a great thing to happen in the EMEA scene in the long run.
I literally said that Gambit was their secret of success. Obviously not completely coz every player they had, had that spark to pull off crazy plays. But Gambit utilized it perfectly.
If that infamous Gambit Academy roster had been announced, I can definitely tell you they would made huge waves within the current circuit. Its just unfortunate, truly.
BEHEMOTH [#21]d3ffo had physical and mental issue, latter of which could've been easily solved by Gambit if they weren't shut down.
If you had seen Gambit in other esports, you would have known that they used to get the best out of their players and it was no coincidence or luck, just pure hard work. Its not just an Engh thing that his teams scrim for hours, he incorporated that from Gambit, something that even GOAT IGL like Saadhak thinks is special in all ways. Also Gambit's CS academy team literally had multiple top 5 players in the world.
If you had watched d3ffo in Gambit, he was literally used as a bait all the time, he had elite space taking capabilities and then Chronicle, nAts and Sheydos used to clean the house, following the path that he had created.
Gambit didn't even fall off, they got super unlucky against Fnatic and lost a game to the best team of that time, FPX in multiple OTs. It was already over when they became M3C and were no longer under Gambit's umbrella.
m3c wasn't an org it was created by the gambit players
dummy
Froggy0_0 [#30]m3c wasn't an org it was created by the gambit players
dummy
Bro, what did you read?
BEHEMOTH [#33]Bro, what did you read?
i am not saying anything against the other stuff
i am just saying that m3c wasnt an org
and m3c was just by the players
you have to know how much pressure that would put right ?
no salary no nothing
Froggy0_0 [#34]i am not saying anything against the other stuff
i am just saying that m3c wasnt an org
and m3c was just by the players
you have to know how much pressure that would put right ?
no salary no nothing
I literally didn't say that they were an org, I said that when they 'became M3C' as in they were no longer under an organization.
BEHEMOTH [#37]I literally didn't say that they were an org, I said that when they 'became M3C' as in they were no longer under an organization.
i am just saying
BEHEMOTH [#13]'Real gambit fans'
Blud did you even watch Gambit running prefect execs??? Even the world's best observer will miss the kills every time, they literally used to kill everyone in sync, everyone knew what they had to hold and clear.
GAMBIT WAS ALWAYS BEST
BUT THERE IS NOTHING SUCH AS PERFECT VALORANT
Froggy0_0 [#26]GAMBIT WAS ALWAYS BEST
BUT THERE IS NOTHING SUCH AS PERFECT VALORANT
They had perfect Valorant in them, you can't deny it when they used to take bomb sites like fucking Avengers.
If you are expecting Astralis like phenomenon to happen in Valorant then I am not really sure, it might happen but it will take a long ass time.
BEHEMOTH [#29]They had perfect Valorant in them, you can't deny it when they used to take bomb sites like fucking Avengers.
If you are expecting Astralis like phenomenon to happen in Valorant then I am not really sure, it might happen but it will take a long ass time.
this game is too random for someone to ever be perfect
the possible scenarios CANNOT be comprehended ever
perfect means 100%
Froggy0_0 [#31]this game is too random for someone to ever be perfect
the possible scenarios CANNOT be comprehended ever
perfect means 100%
What you are trying to say is that Valorant has too many constraints, but that's what scrims and practice are for. If you remember, Gambit were literally famous for practicing the same exec for hours. Its literally just them preparing for 1 round by running the same thing again and again in 10-20 prac rounds.
Riot keeps changing things before the tournaments, maybe that's why we see so much bullshit from all these teams but I think all teams aspires to play at their optimum these days unlike Gambit who starved for perfection.
Its not surprising that teams like Vitality exists, they know even if Riots dumb changes before the tournaments kill their chances at some point in the game, these super proven and cracked aimers will be able to bail them out. Everyone's trying to battle randomness, I get what you're saying too
BEHEMOTH [#40]What you are trying to say is that Valorant has too many constraints, but that's what scrims and practice are for. If you remember, Gambit were literally famous for practicing the same exec for hours. Its literally just them preparing for 1 round by running the same thing again and again in 10-20 prac rounds.
Riot keeps changing things before the tournaments, maybe that's why we see so much bullshit from all these teams but I think all teams aspires to play at their optimum these days unlike Gambit who starved for perfection.
Its not surprising that teams like Vitality exists, they know even if Riots dumb changes before the tournaments kill their chances at some point in the game, these super proven and cracked aimers will be able to bail them out. Everyone's trying to battle randomness, I get what you're saying too
Ur doing way to much just to bait lmao
Marshal_D_Teach [#17]Just wait 'til some Astralis dominate for 2 years and win 4 Masters 1 Champs/3 Masters 2 Champs
That's EDG frfr
delighted [#20]By which team?
I think this kind of dynasty can only happen under several factors: relegation, having an well-established tier 2 and (maybe) tier 3 is very important for a real threat to tier 1 players.
A well-structured Valorant scene would result in a group of people (5 players + coaching staff) dominating the game and studying it at an academic level, just like Astralis did when they won four CS:GO Majors. On top of that, having a team of psychologists and orgs providing better quality of life for players—such as housing, a manager to handle off-game issues, and the presence of family, friends, and a partner in their lives—would make a huge difference.
Marshal_D_Teach [#23]I think this kind of dynasty can only happen under several factors: relegation, having an well-established tier 2 and (maybe) tier 3 is very important for a real threat to tier 1 players.
A well-structured Valorant scene would result in a group of people (5 players + coaching staff) dominating the game and studying it at an academic level, just like Astralis did when they won four CS:GO Majors. On top of that, having a team of psychologists and orgs providing better quality of life for players—such as housing, a manager to handle off-game issues, and the presence of family, friends, and a partner in their lives—would make a huge difference.
I don't see VCT integrating ANY OF THAT if I'm being honest.
delighted [#25]I don't see VCT integrating ANY OF THAT if I'm being honest.
I’m not saying tier 2 and 3 should be in a franchise or anything like that. I’m just saying tier 2 should have stable mid-tier orgs that don’t collapse if the team doesn’t succeed.
Tier 3 with players knowing the basic fundaments of fps instead of being a bunch of dumb-good-aimers
donraye [#39]Valorant is inconsistent by design so perfection is temporary
Only correct answer 👏👏👏👏👏
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