How well does my top 30 players hold up?

This was made right before champs seoul

HM: Munchkin, Kai, Boaster, Primmie, Leaf, Mako (overall, not bad these players are still up there, although I would move leaf and kai up)
30 - FengF (not a bad choice at all, but much rather kai being here)
29 - AAAY (I still stand by this, he is a very good player)
28 - Jing (welp this didnt age too well)
27 - Hiro (he is aight, prob wouldnt be top 30 if I ranked again)
26 - cNed (N/A doesnt play)
25 - Smoggy (underrated him and would put him higher now)
24 - RieNs (dont know what I was doing, he needs to be higher)
23 - Valyn (I stand by it, a very good igl and decent fragger still)
22 - Flashback (Yeah I like this)
21 - Something (jing situation)
20 - BuZz (maybe a little higher)
19 - JonahP (Overrated a little I think)
18 - benjyfishy (very statisfied with this)
17 - D4v4i (idk why I believed in prx so much)
16 - Meteor (get this man way higher wtf was I on)
15 - TenZ (N/A doesnt play)
14 - KiNgg (rode the lev hype too much, should be way lower)
13 - Derke (should be way higher)
12 - Mazino (Lev just won americas okay T-T)
11 - Trexx (I stand by this my goat)
10 - forsaken (still good player but should be way, way lower)
9 - Sayf (little less impressive since he doesnt play duelist anymore but not a bad igl at all)
8 - Wo0t (overrated bro a little bit after the shanghai hype, would swap him and RieNs)
7 - Chronicle (I stand by this)
6 - Zmjjkk (Should be higher)
5 - Zekken (not bad at all)
4 - Alfajer (still a great player, but he should be lower)
3 - Karon (still an amazing player, but I would rate him lower)
2 - T3xture (I got mindplayed into placing him this high, meteor should be here)
1 - Aspas (Very good shanghai/split 2 put him here, I would put him lower but still top 10 maybe even 5)

reasoning for why I put each person here: https://youtu.be/kPPhOHDlNTY?si=S09CqeVJ8VmFW8-g

Valyn is top 10

hindsight you can add many others here
no meteor is bad though

VLR doesnt like number going down apparantly. Aspas is 1 and FengF is 30 for reference

You messed the numbers up?

1243 [#3]

hindsight you can add many others here
no meteor is bad though

meteor was ranked 16th (or 44 here) but yeah he shouldve been higher

GambleNats [#4]

VLR doesnt like number going down apparantly. Aspas is 1 and FengF is 30 for reference

alr that makes sense

Tempest24 [#5]

You messed the numbers up?

idk my message says

30(.)
29(.)

but the numbers are

30
31

MaKo is the best controller of all time and he's currently IGL for DRX, who are absolutely cooking Pacific Kickoff. Not even making a comment about him not being in your top 30 is diabolical...

benjy?

Jyhz [#10]

benjy?

number 18

GambleNats [#11]

number 18

higher or no? ( glazing)

Wunkey [#9]

MaKo is the best controller of all time and he's currently IGL for DRX, who are absolutely cooking Pacific Kickoff. Not even making a comment about him not being in your top 30 is diabolical...

He isnt the current IGL, its freeing (wrong by me mb) but at the time I was unsure of Mako's IGL and how it would affect his fragging so i put him as HM

GambleNats [#13]

He isnt the current IGL, its freeing (wrong by me mb) but at the time I was unsure of Mako's IGL and how it would affect his fragging so i put him as HM

it's mako again

Jyhz [#12]

higher or no? ( glazing)

yeah 100% could be, but im glad I put him at least 18 at the time and not be a dumbass and put him lower

1243 [#14]

it's mako again

oh really? mb then

GambleNats [#15]

yeah 100% could be, but im glad I put him at least 18 at the time and not be a dumbass and put him lower

ye i think he is like the top 2 in the sentinel role (imo)

Jyhz [#17]

ye i think he is like the top 2 in the sentinel role (imo)

Yeah I would put chichoo, meteor and benjy in my top 3 sentinels

GambleNats [#13]

He isnt the current IGL, its freeing (wrong by me mb) but at the time I was unsure of Mako's IGL and how it would affect his fragging so i put him as HM

Negative ball knowledge...

Also, I was wondering why you didn't even make a comment about his placement while you did for everyone else...

forsaken is that good his braindead teammates are ruining his legacy

GambleNats [#18]

Yeah I would put chichoo, meteor and benjy in my top 3 sentinels

hot take ( I think Benjy is better, but maybe I glazes too much )

Wunkey [#19]

Negative ball knowledge...

Also, I was wondering why you didn't even make a comment about his placement while you did for everyone else...

yeah thats completely mb

Jyhz [#17]

ye i think he is like the top 2 in the sentinel role (imo)

who u got above him

GambleNats [#18]

Yeah I would put chichoo, meteor and benjy in my top 3 sentinels

leaf gets shafted

tungsten_cube_ [#24]

leaf gets shafted

leaf is really good, I didn't consider that

wait redo it like based of rn. im just curious

winae29 [#20]

forsaken is that good his braindead teammates are ruining his legacy

Yeah thats true, I am being a little too harsh on my ranking of forsaken, PRX's recent performance has not made me too happy with the team

Leaf only in hm is crazy

G2 players still being underrated 😔

Kirya [#28]

Leaf only in hm is crazy

made in offseason
also leaf is a known regular season warrior

Conceit [#29]

G2 players still being underrated 😔

wait WHERE TF IS DAWGEMO

Jyhz [#31]

wait WHERE TF IS DAWGEMO

i don't think y'all can read because it clearly says made after seoul
jawgemo had no presence last year

1243 [#32]

i don't think y'all can read because it clearly says made after seoul
jawgemo had no presence last year

so uh he top frag on EG is the regular season beuh

Jyhz [#33]

so uh he top frag on EG is the regular season beuh

????? bro was the literal most inconsistent player ever
he would play well in 1/8 matches

1243 [#34]

????? bro was the literal most inconsistent player ever
he would play well in 1/8 matches

mb i don't know ball

Jyhz [#35]

mb i don't know ball

all good

1243 [#36]

all good

LOL

Guy completely forgot about the existence of Less

flames-leleo [#38]

Guy completely forgot about the existence of Less

he was my favorite player at champs

derke top3 at least

tungsten_cube_ [#39]

he was my favorite player at champs

silly me

zhongZHI [#26]

wait redo it like based of rn. im just curious

I mean I will prob redo it when bangkok rolls around and just do the players that qualify. Its just easier to like sort out players otherwise I would like need to look through every team but its prob something like:

1. Zmjjkk
2. Meteor
3. Derke
4. RieNs
5. Zekken
6. Aspas
7. BuZz
8. Chichoo
9. Benjyfishy
10. Leaf
11. Trexx
12. Smoggy
13. Texture
14. nobody
15. Valyn
16. Kai
17. Jawgemo
18. Flashback
19. JonahP
20. Mako
21. Free1ng
22. Karon
23. Wo0t
24. Forsaken
25. Chronicle
26. Less
27. Alfa
28. Sayf
29. s0m
30. Johnqt/mada

again its not accurate just a very quick list. I mightve missed/forgotten some players. and once I put a player in a slot I didnt look back to see if it makes sense.

1243 [#32]

i don't think y'all can read because it clearly says made after seoul
jawgemo had no presence last year

it was actually before seoul :D but thanks. it was my top 30 going into champs

GambleNats [#43]

it was actually before seoul :D but thanks. it was my top 30 going into champs

well I can't read either
but hey I can incorrectly skim!

1243 [#32]

i don't think y'all can read because it clearly says made after seoul
jawgemo had no presence last year

even if jawgemo was like THE goat, I wouldnt have put him on. as this is players who made champs. I shouldve stated that too because my gosh there is too many players in the game for me to keep track on

sp0rtsman [#40]

derke top3 at least

100%

GambleNats [#45]

even if jawgemo was like THE goat, I wouldnt have put him on. as this is players who made champs. I shouldve stated that too because my gosh there is too many players in the game for me to keep track on

oh.

Jyhz [#47]

oh.

yeah its completely mb I didnt state that

GambleNats [#48]

yeah its completely mb I didnt state that

all good.

GambleNats [#42]

I mean I will prob redo it when bangkok rolls around and just do the players that qualify. Its just easier to like sort out players otherwise I would like need to look through every team but its prob something like:

1. Zmjjkk
2. Meteor
3. Derke
4. RieNs
5. Zekken
6. Aspas
7. BuZz
8. Chichoo
9. Benjyfishy
10. Leaf
11. Trexx
12. Smoggy
13. Texture
14. nobody
15. Valyn
16. Kai
17. Jawgemo
18. Flashback
19. JonahP
20. Mako
21. Free1ng
22. Karon
23. Wo0t
24. Forsaken
25. Chronicle
26. Less
27. Alfa
28. Sayf
29. s0m
30. Johnqt/mada

again its not accurate just a very quick list. I mightve missed/forgotten some players. and once I put a player in a slot I didnt look back to see if it makes sense.

The only thing here the really stands out as weird for me is benjyfishy so high. He's a top 30 player but i can't see him as top 10.

meiy >

FluffyRhino4 [#2]

Valyn is top 10

I mean he is an IGL and Im always gonna undervalue IGLs, simply because I have 0 clue how to rank the impact of IGLing. cuz I mean technically they are the most important thing to the team, but like my top 30 cant be just IGLs and I also cannot visually see the impact or know what an IGL is doing. I try my best to keep an open mind, which is why I rated kingg at 14, but normally I dont do more than that.

Tabularasa [#50]

The only thing here the really stands out as weird for me is benjyfishy so high. He's a top 30 player but i can't see him as top 10.

I mean he is just a really good sentinel player, I kinda wanna seem him play some more before I can properly rate him. but judging from last year I wanna put him in my top 10

IZAYA_ORIHARA [#51]

meiy >

Meiys good for sure, but i wanna see him in an international first or beat some better teams in pacific

i fw with this

GambleNats [#53]

I mean he is just a really good sentinel player, I kinda wanna seem him play some more before I can properly rate him. but judging from last year I wanna put him in my top 10

Less is above him in my opinion.

Of course, I obviously have a bias. Anyway, this will be decided in the next match.

alienista1 [#56]

Less is above him in my opinion.

Of course, I obviously have a bias. Anyway, this will be decided in the next match.

I mean Less has been an incredible player in the past. If he turns out to be better than benjy here it wouldnt shock me. GL for your goat

that prx dfm match really ruined everything huh 💀

GambleNats [#54]

Meiys good for sure, but i wanna see him in an international first or beat some better teams in pacific

ran prx like 🐕 today

egann [#58]

that prx dfm match really ruined everything huh 💀

how can a team fall off so hard man D:

Foresaken being “way way lower” is kinda crazy ngl and no miniboo is actually just unacceptable. Even for when this was made.

Toph_ [#61]

Foresaken being “way way lower” is kinda crazy ngl and no miniboo is actually just unacceptable. Even for when this was made.

Guess I just dont understand miniboo. Where would you rank him