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"They have a sub"

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#1
EverSince333

Playing with a sub does make you worse but if you're getting eliminated last placed then you have just as much issues with your starts/comps/map selections as your player VISAs.

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bearmans
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i'd say they are still much better than ZETA.

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EverSince333
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bearmans [#2]

i'd say they are still much better than ZETA.

It doesn't take a lot to be better than ZETA.

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Notbaka
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Juvenile making ass strats

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RandomToastyy
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GE are bad but it's not like they got completely destroyed, DFM also had very good games from individuals

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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bearmans [#2]

i'd say they are still much better than ZETA.

No shit bro, Johnta's not in korea, carlao had to work with XQQ , recipe for disaster

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EverSince333
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Notbaka [#4]

Juvenile making ass strats

"Give me 5 aimers and I will teach them the rest"

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Ronyko23
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ge trolled with lotus comp against talon.

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EverSince333
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RandomToastyy [#5]

GE are bad but it's not like they got completely destroyed, DFM also had very good games from individuals

Struggling against DFM in a tournament where the top 2 out of 12 qualifies for Masters isn't a good look no matter how you look at it.

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that's pretty fair, to a certain it takes a teams aim to be able to win but you don't know that they propably had some strats planned around PatrickWHO but threw it away when he got visa issues and adlibbed on Deryeon. I'm impressed they made this far compared , better than team shitcret with a team from last year

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Ronyko23 [#8]

ge trolled with lotus comp against talon.

It not troll comp, if you cannot defense with this 3 sen comp then you lost, and they couldn't and still lost pistol too

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EverSince333 [#9]

Struggling against DFM in a tournament where the top 2 out of 12 qualifies for Masters isn't a good look no matter how you look at it.

I don't think DFM are that bad if they play like how they did in offseason

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Bluelive [#10]

that's pretty fair, to a certain it takes a teams aim to be able to win but you don't know that they propably had some strats planned around PatrickWHO but threw it away when he got visa issues and adlibbed on Deryeon. I'm impressed they made this far compared , better than team shitcret with a team from last year

yeah they play neon

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EverSince333 [#9]

Struggling against DFM in a tournament where the top 2 out of 12 qualifies for Masters isn't a good look no matter how you look at it.

You gotta Remember that, every team in VCT has its own strength which ultimately makes them win atleast one match, just because ZETA got eliminated without a win doesn't mean their ass. Its still January, you never know what will happen rest of the year, take example TS they were good last year. At the moment wait just wait.

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asura_sleep [#13]

yeah they play neon

the dude who played Neon has visa issues vro.

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GuGengKwaMueng [#11]

It not troll comp, if you cannot defense with this 3 sen comp then you lost, and they couldn't and still lost pistol too

Its a troll comp, having no duelist on a attack sided map with tiny chokes except for A site is criminal

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Bluelive [#15]

the dude who played Neon has visa issues vro.

i mean yeah this is not their playstyle since they usually use neon

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SugarDaddyo
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bearmans [#2]

i'd say they are still much better than ZETA.

at this point, ZETA is just a ranked team cosplaying as a pro team

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GuGengKwaMueng [#11]

It not troll comp, if you cannot defense with this 3 sen comp then you lost, and they couldn't and still lost pistol too

that is what troll comp mean no? they kept losing on defense with 3 sen. and what was their plan on attack, they looked like headless chicken

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GuGengKwaMueng
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GuGengKwaMueng [#11]

It not troll comp, if you cannot defense with this 3 sen comp then you lost, and they couldn't and still lost pistol too

I only saw GE coach explain this plan on X and they overcooked

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RandomToastyy [#12]

I don't think DFM are that bad if they play like how they did in offseason

Unfortunately, them struggling in Apac makes them worst bottom 3 vct teams

#22
avenger50000
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Lev succeeded because of Itopata, not Juv0nile.

#23
LoserIN
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GE with full roster probably beat DFM, Talon, secret, RRQ, zeta.

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wololo___
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LoserIN [#23]

GE with full roster probably beat DFM, Talon, secret, RRQ, zeta.

keyword: probably

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SugarDaddyo [#18]

at this point, ZETA is just a ranked team cosplaying as a pro team

Zeta players are famous for not play ranked games(especially dep). Well, at least they're just a 'team'.

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