What ludicrous dirt/blackmail could Xeppa possibly have on C9 for them to have kept his fraudulent self on this team for so long??
https://www.vlr.gg/player/7871/xeppaa/?timespan=all do me a favour and look at the fact that he has better kd and rating on about 3x the agents as your duelist has https://www.vlr.gg/player/7841/tvirusluke/?timespan=all that would be why, Hope this helps!
Bonkbonk201 [#2]https://www.vlr.gg/player/7871/xeppaa/?timespan=all do me a favour and look at the fact that he has better kd and rating on about 3x the agents as your duelist has https://www.vlr.gg/player/7841/tvirusluke/?timespan=all that would be why, Hope this helps!
ru defending x0ppaa?
Elso [#4]ru defending x0ppaa?
replacing a letter in his name doesn't instantly make him a bad player, Hope this helps!
Bonkbonk201 [#5]replacing a letter in his name doesn't instantly make him a bad player, Hope this helps!
yea but being mid for 4 straight years does
Galactc [#9]He has life games every 6 months so people think he has potential
ikr, the performance he put up against NRG the other day is buying him at the very least 6 extra months of contract
NoOne_ButMe [#6]yea but being mid for 4 straight years does
If u consider consistent above 1.00 ratings and 1/1 KDs in multiple tournaments and multiple different teams (people, not different orgs) as initiator, not even duelist "mid" then you'll forever be delusional.
If u want to talk about being mid just look at your own team for the past few years.
Bonkbonk201 [#12]If u consider consistent above 1.00 ratings and 1/1 KDs in multiple tournaments and multiple different teams (people, not different orgs) as initiator, not even duelist "mid" then you'll forever be delusional.
If u want to talk about being mid just look at your own team for the past few years.
ok but if xeppaa has been on c9 for 4 years and c9 has been ass for 4 years... clearly theres a relationship between xeppaa and being ass
RealNella [#13]ok but if xeppaa has been on c9 for 4 years and c9 has been ass for 4 years... clearly theres a relationship between xeppaa and being ass
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Bonkbonk201 [#12]If u consider consistent above 1.00 ratings and 1/1 KDs in multiple tournaments and multiple different teams (people, not different orgs) as initiator, not even duelist "mid" then you'll forever be delusional.
If u want to talk about being mid just look at your own team for the past few years.
you want to talk about my team alr then the NAVI core broke up after being mid as you say right then why should xeppa be on c9 after their mediocre performance over the years sometimes you need to change things around in order to do better
xeppa aint doing shit this season also
NoOne_ButMe [#15]you want to talk about my team alr then the NAVI core broke up after being mid as you say right then why should xeppa be on c9 after their mediocre performance over the years sometimes you need to change things around in order to do better
xeppa aint doing shit this season also
Navi core broke up but refused to get rid of the problem which is and continues to be ANGE1, If u cannot see that you are blind.
Xeppa has not been dropped because he clearly does an invaluable role which cannot be replaced by anyone they can bring in And/Or like Zellsis he has a very likable attitude and the players like him, therefore he's a net positive,
Before u argue the same for ANGE1, They could've easily picked up Saadhak, Nats, etc they had similar and/or higher level talent available to them, they didn't take it.
Your statement that "sometimes u need to change things around in order to do better" is just untrue, it's right sometimes but fundamentally it's rosters like Saadhak's Loud, DRX, Fnatic etc who have had the longest runs of continuous success with no or very little change, That is what makes a great team, Not from my opinion but from prize winnings. (https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Portal:Statistics)
This link shows G2, Who used to change around a lot but have now realised that actually the guard roster is good, and have such made small adjustments like letting sayaplayer go and bringing a single new player in, Fnatic is the same, they have kept the same roster for (i believe) the last year or 2 now, even before that if anyone left it would be 1 at a time and very little more, Alfa joined, they gave it time, Chronicle joined, Leo got subbed and then Derke Left, all of these give time for the team to gel together and it makes a better team in the long run, these are just 2 examples, I could give more examples if necessary but I feel I've made my point.
RealNella [#13]ok but if xeppaa has been on c9 for 4 years and c9 has been ass for 4 years... clearly theres a relationship between xeppaa and being ass
That’s like saying because the Los Angeles Angels (baseball team) have made the postseason once the entire time Mike Trout (top 5 player in the league) has been on the team, Trout must suck, right? No it’s because they refuse to build a good team around him.
I’m not saying Xeppaa is as good at Valorant as Mike Trout is at baseball but you can’t just say because he’s on a bad team every year he sucks too. Xeppaa is far from the worst player on any variation C9 has put around him.
RealNella [#13]ok but if xeppaa has been on c9 for 4 years and c9 has been ass for 4 years... clearly theres a relationship between xeppaa and being ass
That is fundamentally not True, Vo0kashu is on Dragon Ranger Gaming and they are considerably mid, Is Vo0kashu therefore a horrible individual player, No.
Flor made her debut last week or so, She looked good while everyone else looked like walking ult orbs, Does that mean Flor is bad, No.
U can argue "oh but those haven't been there for 4 years" you're right but look at PRX then, PRX haven't won a single big tournament apart from maybe pacific finals once or twice, Does that therefore mean Forsaken, Jinggg, etc are all horribly mid players with 0 potential, No.
This statement is completely nonsensical, This is the kind of attitude is the same one my ranked teammates make when they blame their team when they themselves are neutral, you are part of the problem too, either shut up and do something about it or accept you lost but anything else will further perpetuate the problem.
Bonkbonk201 [#20]That is fundamentally not True, Vo0kashu is on Dragon Ranger Gaming and they are considerably mid, Is Vo0kashu therefore a horrible individual player, No.
Flor made her debut last week or so, She looked good while everyone else looked like walking ult orbs, Does that mean Flor is bad, No.
U can argue "oh but those haven't been there for 4 years" you're right but look at PRX then, PRX haven't won a single big tournament apart from maybe pacific finals once or twice, Does that therefore mean Forsaken, Jinggg, etc are all horribly mid players with 0 potential, No.
This statement is completely nonsensical, This is the kind of attitude is the same one my ranked teammates make when they blame their team when they themselves are neutral, you are part of the problem too, either shut up and do something about it or accept you lost but anything else will further perpetuate the problem.
aint that deep lad
meadows [#19]That’s like saying because the Los Angeles Angels (baseball team) have made the postseason once the entire time Mike Trout (top 5 player in the league) has been on the team, Trout must suck, right? No it’s because they refuse to build a good team around him.
I’m not saying Xeppaa is as good at Valorant as Mike Trout is at baseball but you can’t just say because he’s on a bad team every year he sucks too. Xeppaa is far from the worst player on any variation C9 has put around him.
stop making trad sports comparisons to esports it's cringe af. are u the guy who posts "should team in X game try moneyball approach?" once a year on every esports subreddit?
Bonkbonk201 [#17]Navi core broke up but refused to get rid of the problem which is and continues to be ANGE1, If u cannot see that you are blind.
Xeppa has not been dropped because he clearly does an invaluable role which cannot be replaced by anyone they can bring in And/Or like Zellsis he has a very likable attitude and the players like him, therefore he's a net positive,
Before u argue the same for ANGE1, They could've easily picked up Saadhak, Nats, etc they had similar and/or higher level talent available to them, they didn't take it.
Your statement that "sometimes u need to change things around in order to do better" is just untrue, it's right sometimes but fundamentally it's rosters like Saadhak's Loud, DRX, Fnatic etc who have had the longest runs of continuous success with no or very little change, That is what makes a great team, Not from my opinion but from prize winnings. (https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Portal:Statistics)
This link shows G2, Who used to change around a lot but have now realised that actually the guard roster is good, and have such made small adjustments like letting sayaplayer go and bringing a single new player in, Fnatic is the same, they have kept the same roster for (i believe) the last year or 2 now, even before that if anyone left it would be 1 at a time and very little more, Alfa joined, they gave it time, Chronicle joined, Leo got subbed and then Derke Left, all of these give time for the team to gel together and it makes a better team in the long run, these are just 2 examples, I could give more examples if necessary but I feel I've made my point.
writing paragraphs trying to defend a shit player is rough
Bonkbonk201 [#17]Navi core broke up but refused to get rid of the problem which is and continues to be ANGE1, If u cannot see that you are blind.
Xeppa has not been dropped because he clearly does an invaluable role which cannot be replaced by anyone they can bring in And/Or like Zellsis he has a very likable attitude and the players like him, therefore he's a net positive,
Before u argue the same for ANGE1, They could've easily picked up Saadhak, Nats, etc they had similar and/or higher level talent available to them, they didn't take it.
Your statement that "sometimes u need to change things around in order to do better" is just untrue, it's right sometimes but fundamentally it's rosters like Saadhak's Loud, DRX, Fnatic etc who have had the longest runs of continuous success with no or very little change, That is what makes a great team, Not from my opinion but from prize winnings. (https://liquipedia.net/valorant/Portal:Statistics)
This link shows G2, Who used to change around a lot but have now realised that actually the guard roster is good, and have such made small adjustments like letting sayaplayer go and bringing a single new player in, Fnatic is the same, they have kept the same roster for (i believe) the last year or 2 now, even before that if anyone left it would be 1 at a time and very little more, Alfa joined, they gave it time, Chronicle joined, Leo got subbed and then Derke Left, all of these give time for the team to gel together and it makes a better team in the long run, these are just 2 examples, I could give more examples if necessary but I feel I've made my point.
you xeppa's gf or sum shit?
segbench [#22]stop making trad sports comparisons to esports it's cringe af. are u the guy who posts "should team in X game try moneyball approach?" once a year on every esports subreddit?
Never once posted that, but appreciate the feedback. I’ll take you into consideration for future postings
XtraChrxs [#24]writing paragraphs trying to defend a shit player is rough
can't attack my arguments so now u go for an ad hominem argument, good job u just proved u had nothing valuable to say.
pulchi [#21]aint that deep lad
man you really are getting on every alt just to add replies and upvote yourself, sad.
NoOne_ButMe [#25]you xeppa's gf or sum shit?
can't attack my arguments so now u go for an ad hominem argument, good job u just proved u had nothing valuable to say.
meadows [#19]That’s like saying because the Los Angeles Angels (baseball team) have made the postseason once the entire time Mike Trout (top 5 player in the league) has been on the team, Trout must suck, right? No it’s because they refuse to build a good team around him.
I’m not saying Xeppaa is as good at Valorant as Mike Trout is at baseball but you can’t just say because he’s on a bad team every year he sucks too. Xeppaa is far from the worst player on any variation C9 has put around him.
Xeppa isn't good enough to build a team around though. Even if he isn't consistently the worst he isn't the best either. In a scene where players are constantly being replaced in at attempt to make just one of the three internationals, is it not a little bit absurd for C9 not to at least attempt something different?
Bonkbonk201 [#2]https://www.vlr.gg/player/7871/xeppaa/?timespan=all do me a favour and look at the fact that he has better kd and rating on about 3x the agents as your duelist has https://www.vlr.gg/player/7841/tvirusluke/?timespan=all that would be why, Hope this helps!
dont hate my t-virus luke I love that guy
meadows [#19]That’s like saying because the Los Angeles Angels (baseball team) have made the postseason once the entire time Mike Trout (top 5 player in the league) has been on the team, Trout must suck, right? No it’s because they refuse to build a good team around him.
I’m not saying Xeppaa is as good at Valorant as Mike Trout is at baseball but you can’t just say because he’s on a bad team every year he sucks too. Xeppaa is far from the worst player on any variation C9 has put around him.
If you are using VLR rating as a system if a player is good or bad maybe you should watch some gameplay. His util is subpar and he crumbles over any pressure. Since you like sports comparisons so much, The Cleveland Browns beat the Ravens this year so by your logic that must mean they are the better team right? You can be a bad player but have good games and vise versa.
Bonkbonk201 [#2]https://www.vlr.gg/player/7871/xeppaa/?timespan=all do me a favour and look at the fact that he has better kd and rating on about 3x the agents as your duelist has https://www.vlr.gg/player/7841/tvirusluke/?timespan=all that would be why, Hope this helps!
You are right BUT xeppa is old in terms of Esports age and the amount of growing talent in T2 or in any other region is insane i mean look at oxy imagine they get someone like him but with xeppas role
Bonkbonk201 [#29]can't attack my arguments so now u go for an ad hominem argument, good job u just proved u had nothing valuable to say.
the thing is i dont care enough about xeppa to ague with u