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Round 8
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Round 1
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Round 6
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Round 16
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Round 4
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Round 5
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Round 8
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Round 9
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Round 13
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Round 12
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Round 7
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2
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Round 13
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Round 5
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Round 8
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Round 16
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1
Round 2
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Round 5
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94
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POISED
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Round 9
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46
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Derrek
Rise
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Round 1
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Round 4
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Round 5
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Round 12
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Round 13
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neptune
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Round 7
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Round 9
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Round 11
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Round 16
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Round 16
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xeta
C9
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Round 4
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Round 10
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Round 13
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mitch
C9
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Round 5
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vanity
C9
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Round 4
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Round 5
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Xeppaa
C9
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Round 15
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leaf
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Round 6
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Round 16
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Round 11
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What last series lmfao? They did not qualify for any event. Based on this, XSET is the only other team to beat SEN in NA. Are we just gonna ignore that, braindead C9 fanboy?
Fact of the matter is : None of the teams except 100t here has achieved anything commendable except for XSET who has done a lot of upsets but still fails to perform when it really matters.
All of these teams are basically on the same level as TSM achievement wise except for qualifying to LCQ.
Stop with so much hopium on C9
And you are overrating them. Sure they beat v1. But is v1 a tier 1 team now? Nah. Ever since vanity left V1 they are now a tier 2 team and honesty I would put TSM over them . Oderus was a good addiition but they dont have a proper good IGL and it makes them bad.
I believe every other team in the LCQ could 2-0 V1
Most likely they have been using kayo in scrims etc and felt it was the best agent for their teams playstyle and skillset. 100t proved that Kayo could be viable back when they used him to qualify for berlin, aswell as using him for a few maps in Berlin. On top of that the kayo buff made his flashes pretty snazzy.