2-0
13-6
13-7
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
14
10
+4
|
6
12
-6
|
7
6
+1
|
6
9
-3
|
9
11
-2
|
supamen
Rise
|
14
11
+3
|
10
6
+4
|
20
14
+6
|
13
5
+8
|
14
9
+5
|
Derrek
Rise
|
10
8
+2
|
12
11
+1
|
10
8
+2
|
8
11
-3
|
10
5
+5
|
POISED
Rise
|
11
12
-1
|
6
13
-7
|
10
10
+0
|
5
8
-3
|
6
6
+0
|
Shanks
Rise
|
10
15
-5
|
15
8
+7
|
9
13
-4
|
15
8
+7
|
11
9
+2
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
3
5
-2
|
0
2
-2
|
2
0
+2
|
2
1
+1
|
4
0
+4
|
supamen
Rise
|
3
2
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
1
3
-2
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
1
1
+0
|
1
0
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
1
2
-1
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
2
2
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Shanks
Rise
|
1
5
-4
|
4
1
+3
|
3
2
+1
|
4
0
+4
|
3
1
+2
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
supamen
Rise
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
Shanks
Rise
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
13
|
4
|
|
1
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
|
53
|
1
|
1
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
16
|
4
|
1
|
|
1
|
1
|
|
|
|
75
|
6
|
5
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
4
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
6
|
0
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
11
|
2
|
|
|
1
|
2
|
|
|
|
51
|
1
|
0
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
10
|
2
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
47
|
6
|
1
|
xeta
C9
|
|
12
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
8
|
1
|
mitch
C9
|
|
11
|
2
|
1
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
56
|
3
|
0
|
vanity
C9
|
|
9
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
50
|
9
|
0
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
|
6
|
4
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
45
|
6
|
1
|
leaf
C9
|
|
10
|
7
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
56
|
0
|
0
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
5
1
+4
|
1
4
-3
|
2
3
-1
|
3
6
-3
|
3
3
+0
|
supamen
Rise
|
6
5
+1
|
2
4
-2
|
6
6
+0
|
5
1
+4
|
5
3
+2
|
Derrek
Rise
|
3
2
+1
|
5
5
+0
|
4
4
+0
|
4
3
+1
|
3
3
+0
|
POISED
Rise
|
5
4
+1
|
4
4
+0
|
3
5
-2
|
0
4
-4
|
2
1
+1
|
Shanks
Rise
|
2
7
-5
|
7
3
+4
|
5
5
+0
|
6
0
+6
|
6
3
+3
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
1
1
+0
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
supamen
Rise
|
3
2
+1
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
1
2
-1
|
|
|
|
|
Shanks
Rise
|
0
3
-3
|
1
0
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
supamen
Rise
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
Shanks
Rise
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
5
Round 5
mitch
xeta
Round 9
Xeppaa
xeta
Round 11
mitch
xeta
Round 18
xeta
leaf
Round 24
vanity
mitch
|
2
Round 17
Xeppaa
mitch
vanity
Round 23
Xeppaa
vanity
xeta
|
|
1
Round 27
vanity
leaf
Xeppaa
xeta
mitch
|
|
|
|
|
|
69
|
1
|
1
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
3
Round 4
leaf
Xeppaa
Round 10
leaf
Xeppaa
Round 16
vanity
xeta
|
2
Round 8
leaf
vanity
mitch
Round 19
leaf
Xeppaa
xeta
|
1
Round 25
leaf
vanity
Xeppaa
xeta
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
67
|
2
|
0
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
1
Round 23
leaf
mitch
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
32
|
1
|
0
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
2
Round 4
xeta
vanity
Round 19
vanity
mitch
|
2
Round 11
leaf
vanity
Xeppaa
Round 12
mitch
leaf
Xeppaa
|
|
|
|
1
Round 19
mitch
vanity
|
|
|
|
48
|
1
|
0
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
2
Round 3
vanity
leaf
Round 18
Xeppaa
vanity
|
1
Round 13
vanity
leaf
xeta
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
33
|
2
|
1
|
xeta
C9
|
|
3
Round 14
Derrek
POISED
Round 20
POISED
neptune
Round 21
neptune
Derrek
|
1
Round 15
neptune
POISED
supamen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
2
|
0
|
mitch
C9
|
|
3
Round 2
neptune
Shanks
Round 6
Derrek
POISED
Round 26
Derrek
Shanks
|
1
Round 7
Derrek
supamen
neptune
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
50
|
0
|
0
|
vanity
C9
|
|
2
Round 4
supamen
Shanks
Round 10
supamen
Derrek
|
1
Round 22
Shanks
neptune
POISED
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
38
|
5
|
0
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
|
2
Round 14
Shanks
supamen
Round 26
supamen
POISED
|
3
Round 1
Derrek
Shanks
POISED
Round 8
neptune
supamen
Derrek
Round 12
supamen
Shanks
POISED
|
|
|
|
1
Round 8
supamen
Derrek
|
|
|
|
49
|
2
|
0
|
leaf
C9
|
|
4
Round 1
neptune
supamen
Round 8
POISED
Shanks
Round 20
Shanks
supamen
Round 21
supamen
POISED
|
1
Round 5
Derrek
POISED
Shanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
44
|
0
|
0
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
2
5
-3
|
1
5
-4
|
4
3
+1
|
0
3
-3
|
2
5
-3
|
supamen
Rise
|
6
3
+3
|
4
2
+2
|
6
7
-1
|
4
2
+2
|
5
4
+1
|
Derrek
Rise
|
6
3
+3
|
3
5
-2
|
3
2
+1
|
1
7
-6
|
4
1
+3
|
POISED
Rise
|
4
4
+0
|
1
4
-3
|
6
4
+2
|
3
3
+0
|
2
4
-2
|
Shanks
Rise
|
3
6
-3
|
6
3
+3
|
2
4
-2
|
7
4
+3
|
4
4
+0
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
1
1
+0
|
0
1
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
0
1
-1
|
0
2
-2
|
|
|
Derrek
Rise
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
0
2
-2
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
Shanks
Rise
|
1
2
-1
|
2
1
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
0
1
-1
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
5
Round 1
mitch
vanity
Round 2
leaf
xeta
Round 6
mitch
xeta
Round 16
mitch
vanity
Round 22
vanity
xeta
|
2
Round 3
xeta
Xeppaa
mitch
Round 20
mitch
Xeppaa
vanity
Shanks
|
|
|
1
Round 3
mitch
|
1
Round 22
xeta
vanity
|
|
|
|
44
|
0
|
0
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
7
Round 2
mitch
Xeppaa
Round 3
leaf
vanity
Round 4
vanity
xeta
Round 7
leaf
Xeppaa
Round 15
leaf
vanity
Round 17
mitch
xeta
Round 25
vanity
mitch
|
1
Round 19
vanity
xeta
mitch
|
|
|
|
1
Round 19
xeta
mitch
|
|
|
|
63
|
2
|
1
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
3
Round 1
xeta
Xeppaa
Round 6
leaf
Xeppaa
Round 18
vanity
leaf
|
1
Round 22
mitch
leaf
Xeppaa
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
5
|
0
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
4
Round 4
mitch
leaf
Round 10
vanity
Xeppaa
Round 19
Xeppaa
leaf
Round 26
leaf
Xeppaa
|
|
|
|
1
Round 1
leaf
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
0
|
0
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
3
Round 5
vanity
Xeppaa
Round 10
leaf
mitch
Round 17
leaf
vanity
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
28
|
2
|
0
|
xeta
C9
|
|
6
Round 8
Derrek
POISED
Round 21
Shanks
Derrek
Round 22
neptune
Derrek
Round 23
Derrek
POISED
Round 25
neptune
Shanks
Round 26
Shanks
Derrek
|
1
Round 9
Derrek
POISED
supamen
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
54
|
4
|
1
|
mitch
C9
|
|
4
Round 3
Derrek
POISED
Round 5
Derrek
neptune
Round 15
neptune
Shanks
Round 18
Derrek
POISED
|
1
Round 13
Shanks
neptune
POISED
|
1
Round 19
Derrek
POISED
neptune
Shanks
|
|
1
Round 18
POISED
|
|
|
|
|
59
|
1
|
0
|
vanity
C9
|
|
5
Round 4
POISED
Shanks
Round 9
Shanks
neptune
Round 14
POISED
Shanks
Round 20
neptune
POISED
Round 23
neptune
Shanks
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
1
Round 20
Shanks
POISED
neptune
Derrek
supamen
|
48
|
2
|
0
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
|
3
Round 17
neptune
Shanks
Round 21
supamen
POISED
Round 26
supamen
POISED
|
1
Round 12
Shanks
POISED
Derrek
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
41
|
2
|
1
|
leaf
C9
|
|
3
Round 1
Shanks
POISED
Round 18
neptune
Shanks
Round 25
Derrek
POISED
|
4
Round 7
POISED
Shanks
Derrek
Round 8
supamen
Shanks
neptune
Round 11
Shanks
neptune
supamen
Round 24
supamen
neptune
POISED
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
51
|
0
|
0
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
7
4
+3
|
4
3
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
4
3
+1
|
supamen
Rise
|
2
3
-1
|
4
0
+4
|
8
1
+7
|
4
2
+2
|
4
2
+2
|
Derrek
Rise
|
1
3
-2
|
4
1
+3
|
3
2
+1
|
3
1
+2
|
3
1
+2
|
POISED
Rise
|
2
4
-2
|
1
5
-4
|
1
1
+0
|
2
1
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
Shanks
Rise
|
5
2
+3
|
2
2
+0
|
2
4
-2
|
2
4
-2
|
1
2
-1
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
1
3
-2
|
0
1
-1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
Derrek
Rise
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
|
|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
|
leaf
C9
|
mitch
C9
|
Xeppaa
C9
|
xeta
C9
|
vanity
C9
|
|
neptune
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Shanks
Rise
|
|
3
Round 13
leaf
Xeppaa
Round 14
leaf
xeta
Round 15
vanity
leaf
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
0
|
0
|
supamen
Rise
|
|
6
Round 5
xeta
vanity
Round 8
vanity
Xeppaa
Round 11
Xeppaa
vanity
Round 12
leaf
xeta
Round 15
Xeppaa
mitch
Round 16
mitch
Xeppaa
|
1
Round 2
Xeppaa
vanity
xeta
|
|
|
1
Round 5
vanity
|
|
|
|
|
94
|
2
|
4
|
POISED
Rise
|
|
|
1
Round 9
leaf
Xeppaa
xeta
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
0
|
0
|
Derrek
Rise
|
|
5
Round 1
Xeppaa
vanity
Round 4
leaf
mitch
Round 5
Xeppaa
mitch
Round 12
Xeppaa
vanity
Round 13
vanity
xeta
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1
Round 13
xeta
vanity
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61
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0
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0
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neptune
Rise
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5
Round 7
leaf
mitch
Round 9
vanity
mitch
Round 11
leaf
mitch
Round 14
vanity
mitch
Round 17
vanity
leaf
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1
Round 16
xeta
vanity
leaf
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1
Round 16
leaf
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79
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2
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0
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xeta
C9
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3
Round 4
supamen
Shanks
Round 10
Derrek
Shanks
Round 13
POISED
Shanks
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43
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2
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0
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mitch
C9
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4
Round 5
POISED
neptune
Round 6
neptune
Shanks
Round 7
Shanks
Derrek
Round 10
neptune
POISED
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58
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2
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0
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vanity
C9
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2
Round 4
POISED
neptune
Round 5
Derrek
Shanks
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63
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2
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0
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Xeppaa
C9
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1
Round 15
Shanks
POISED
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44
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2
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0
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leaf
C9
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3
Round 6
POISED
Derrek
Round 16
supamen
Derrek
Round 17
POISED
supamen
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2
Round 11
Shanks
Derrek
POISED
Round 12
neptune
Shanks
POISED
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73
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0
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0
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What last series lmfao? They did not qualify for any event. Based on this, XSET is the only other team to beat SEN in NA. Are we just gonna ignore that, braindead C9 fanboy?
Fact of the matter is : None of the teams except 100t here has achieved anything commendable except for XSET who has done a lot of upsets but still fails to perform when it really matters.
All of these teams are basically on the same level as TSM achievement wise except for qualifying to LCQ.
Stop with so much hopium on C9
And you are overrating them. Sure they beat v1. But is v1 a tier 1 team now? Nah. Ever since vanity left V1 they are now a tier 2 team and honesty I would put TSM over them . Oderus was a good addiition but they dont have a proper good IGL and it makes them bad.
I believe every other team in the LCQ could 2-0 V1
Most likely they have been using kayo in scrims etc and felt it was the best agent for their teams playstyle and skillset. 100t proved that Kayo could be viable back when they used him to qualify for berlin, aswell as using him for a few maps in Berlin. On top of that the kayo buff made his flashes pretty snazzy.