Dont get me wrong verno is good, but this glazing has to stop this guy is not top 8 riflers in americas or even top 10 in americas right now. he has never played a tier 1 game ik hes crazy but the meat riding has to stop somewhere he will become top 10 but calm down until he does something regionally or internationally for t1
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Yuh_aye [#8]Bruh in the last 2 months he smoked EG, C9, SEN (twice), BLG, and Gen.G (5 franchise teams), MVP'd both events and had a 1.7 K/D over 290 rounds at SOOP
What more does he have to do lmfao
he has to beat the second leo in mwzera
kanyefan4238173 [#4]clears g2
g2 have infinitely more credibility than verno has right now, no doubt he keeps it up he will become top 10 but brother hasnt played a single tier 1 game
elysxxm [#10]g2 have infinitely more credibility than verno has right now, no doubt he keeps it up he will become top 10 but brother hasnt played a single tier 1 game
in the past 2ish months he smoked 5 tier 1 teams, obv g2 is better but if you can't see that verno is him you're just blind
Yuh_aye [#8]Bruh in the last 2 months he smoked EG, C9, SEN (twice), BLG, and Gen.G (5 franchise teams), MVP'd both events and had a 1.7 K/D over 290 rounds at SOOP
What more does he have to do lmfao
replicate it during the regular season, off season doesnt mean a whole lot hes playing teams with significantly less practice than his team, no doubt he will become top 10 but he has never played tier 1, never won anything, never made playoffs, and he didnt even do anything notable with his team in t2
elysxxm [#16]replicate it during the regular season, off season doesnt mean a whole lot hes playing teams with significantly less practice than his team, no doubt he will become top 10 but he has never played tier 1, never won anything, never made playoffs, and he didnt even do anything notable with his team in t2
geng and BLG had a good amount of practice same with sen (they had more practice than vernos team btw and still lost)
sometimes i wonder if people really watches the matches, gen.g werent trolling verno was really frying them, maybe they will show a different face on international tournaments but just because its early it doesnt mean he´ll be worse on regular league, having this performance on a new team which might only improve through the season is spectacular
koromast [#21]sometimes i wonder if people really watches the matches, gen.g werent trolling verno was really frying them, maybe they will show a different face on international tournaments but just because its early it doesnt mean he´ll be worse on regular league, having this performance on a new team which might only improve through the season is spectacular
Never said he would be worse just that it's too early to be calling him top 10
cameran [#7]well said and agreed
same thing with sayonara, primmie, n4rrate (serious), especially sayonara
I still think n4rrate should be on init instead of senti.
The first two you just mentioned are super young, so not exactly fair. Neither have hit their ceilings yet.
elysxxm [#23]Never said he would be worse just that it's too early to be calling him top 10
he's the best player itw currently
some people wont admit it but deep down they know it's facts
Shuaaaa [#24]I still think n4rrate should be on init instead of senti.
The first two you just mentioned are super young, so not exactly fair. Neither have hit their ceilings yet.
the way the coaches explained n4rrate being on senti is fair, but yea i'd still like to see him on init,
as for sayonara, i get hes young but still crazy how so much people are overhyping him up so much when hes basically just an average player
dort [#25]he's the best player itw currently
some people wont admit it but deep down they know it's facts
neither of you is correct, he the best prospect itw undoubtedly and thats why he will fry t1 players next year, but that doesnt automatically make him a top 10 yet, cloud n4rrate grubinho eeiu flashback yetujey meiy and other players from last year also shitted on t1 teams but werent top 10 because what will make them top 10 is how deep they can make their teams go with their gameplay in terms of international standings and we cant know until the season starts, im pretty sure he will be a top 10 or top 5 in americas undoubtedly atleast like eeiu and he has the most potential out of every player in his role.
masterX [#22]Why do people always want to judge individual quality based on team achievements? is it that hard for people to know which high quality players and which ones are just so-so
we know yetujey meiy flashback primmie n4rrate eeiu and a shit ton of players that are top 5 itw material but werent even top 10 last year thats why
Ultime [#29]top 8 in na?? Surely noone is arguing that
I saw a post that claimed he was top 8 and people are glazing him so much
elysxxm [#30]I saw a post that claimed he was top 8 and people are glazing him so much
Thats suprising. Yeah hes def not
elysxxm [#10]g2 have infinitely more credibility than verno has right now, no doubt he keeps it up he will become top 10 but brother hasnt played a single tier 1 game
G2 is a good team but definitely overhyped for their most current results. They got inta eliminated without picking up a map in champs playoffs and also lost their last game to Clown9
elysxxm [#23]Never said he would be worse just that it's too early to be calling him top 10
Who would you reckon is above him in rifling in America that is also that consistent? And I want 10 since you clearly don't think he is top 10
Ultime [#29]top 8 in na?? Surely noone is arguing that
He has smoked players that are considered top 8 in NA but he isn't considered top 8 in NA while also staying consistent? Make it make sense my man
-morte- [#33]G2 is a good team but definitely overhyped for their most current results. They got inta eliminated without picking up a map in champs playoffs and also lost their last game to Clown9
jawgemo is seen as a big upgrade from icy and g2 were already good with icy and retained their core which means they can develop chemistry faster. in g2s defense they lost to rossys c9
koromast [#28]we know yetujey meiy flashback primmie n4rrate eeiu and a shit ton of players that are top 5 itw material but werent even top 10 last year thats why
and thats not their fault for not reaching top 10 with the team
just imagine if you put aspas instead of meiy on 2024 DFM and doesn't have a single victory, then will that change the fact that he's the best duelist in the world?
masterX [#37]and thats not their fault for not reaching top 10 with the team
just imagine if you put aspas instead of meiy on 2024 DFM and doesn't have a single victory, then will that change the fact that he's the best duelist in the world?
no one makes top 10 lists based on mechanics, best players itw are rated by standings too otherwise keznit would be in the best raze of all time discussion for his overall stats on vct even tho he hasnt got out of groups on internationals since 2021
koromast [#38]no one makes top 10 lists based on mechanics, best players itw are rated by standings too otherwise keznit would be in the best raze of all time discussion for his overall stats on vct even tho he hasnt got out of groups on internationals since 2021
yeah i rated keznit at the same level with aspas. but not their team. That's why I never mix player quality with team quality in any discussion
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