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#1
Anguibok

I'm sick this week, sorry guys, but you still can't read, so I try to speak, but it will be even more hard to understand what I say...

This week I try to analysis meta on Haven with a blocked nose and a duck voice.
tldr ;

  • Sova is OP
  • Astra will be broken
  • Double duelist strong
  • Usual meta is sus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTK0KVXNq0k

You can vote for the next proplaymap, most vote will be next (No, TDM map doesn't count :c)

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top teams will play yoru, sova, astra, viper, cypher

other teams will play astra, neon, sova, breach, cypher

some teams will find success playing yoru, sova, omen, neon, cypher

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Two_Percent [#2]

top teams will play yoru, sova, astra, viper, cypher

other teams will play astra, neon, sova, breach, cypher

some teams will find success playing yoru, sova, omen, neon, cypher

And the FNC will play yoru, iso, sova, cypher, omen, and annihilate the competition

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Vaaero [#3]

And the FNC will play yoru, iso, sova, cypher, omen, and annihilate the competition

thats what we said about their lotus coming into 2024...

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Two_Percent [#4]

thats what we said about their lotus coming into 2024...

Ya but their lotus became meta. I don't see their iso comp becoming meta because teams are afraid to run an iso (and they also don't have alfa). Their off meta comp has a lot better of a chance of surviving if teams have to specifically prepare. It's a lot easier for teams to prepare if they run a meta comp than off meta, which is what happened last year.

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Vaaero [#3]

And the FNC will play yoru, iso, sova, cypher, omen, and annihilate the competition

Fraudnatic is not winning anything

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hellfire
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i like ur accent for some reason
good insight

#8
St0rm1820
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Pearl please

#9
kanyefan4238173
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Navi comp best

Neon
Yoru
Sova
Omen/astra
Cypher

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TM06Nick
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Two_Percent [#4]

thats what we said about their lotus coming into 2024...

and everyone copied their shit comp instead of playing something better lol

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Two_Percent [#4]

thats what we said about their lotus coming into 2024...

their meta lotus comp was still being used by majority of the teams tho.

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FNC comp : Yoru, iso, omen ,sova, cypher is just too good

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Omen/astra, breach, sova, neon, cypher/kj. Everything else is wrong

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sgc [#13]

Omen/astra, breach, sova, neon, cypher/kj. Everything else is wrong

navis comp is undefeated in vct

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kanyefan4238173 [#14]

navis comp is undefeated in vct

They played it 1 time and didn't play it against my comp. Enuf said

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W vid

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Vaaero [#5]

Ya but their lotus became meta. I don't see their iso comp becoming meta because teams are afraid to run an iso (and they also don't have alfa). Their off meta comp has a lot better of a chance of surviving if teams have to specifically prepare. It's a lot easier for teams to prepare if they run a meta comp than off meta, which is what happened last year.

people played fnatic comp in 2023 as well... just many teams subbed fade for skye, but it played very similarly (execs lead with fade/skye dog, skye flash/fade eye is used for early info/trap plays, initi can play a pivot role on def). Only difference is that teams got a lot better at dealing with fnatic. Most of the times, it's not about the comp, it's about the team playing it (for example prx)

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kanyefan4238173
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sgc [#15]

They played it 1 time and didn't play it against my comp. Enuf said

It’s undefeated

Enough said

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hellfire [#7]

i like ur accent for some reason
good insight

Really ?? Thanks a lot !

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St0rm1820 [#8]

Pearl please

But T.T I have no data for Pearl and Fracture :c

I wait to finish the other map on the mapool, I'll make a video on Pearl and Fracture when I finish my "Timeline map per map"

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Two_Percent [#17]

people played fnatic comp in 2023 as well... just many teams subbed fade for skye, but it played very similarly (execs lead with fade/skye dog, skye flash/fade eye is used for early info/trap plays, initi can play a pivot role on def). Only difference is that teams got a lot better at dealing with fnatic. Most of the times, it's not about the comp, it's about the team playing it (for example prx)

There's a difference between playing the comp and the comp being meta

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Two_Percent [#2]

top teams will play yoru, sova, astra, viper, cypher

other teams will play astra, neon, sova, breach, cypher

some teams will find success playing yoru, sova, omen, neon, cypher

It's really hard to guess what the team will pick. I really do think pro team play what is strong but what they are confident with :/

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kanyefan4238173 [#9]

Navi comp best

Neon
Yoru
Sova
Omen/astra
Cypher

I think Neon and Cypher will disapear in the future, especially Cyph

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K4ziuHa [#16]

W vid

Thanks a lot ^-^

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Er3ngenes1s [#12]

FNC comp : Yoru, iso, omen ,sova, cypher is just too good

I think Fnc comp is strong as fuck, based on datas. Double duelist may be the near futurs (But I still think controller are OP as fuck)

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sgc [#13]

Omen/astra, breach, sova, neon, cypher/kj. Everything else is wrong

If you see the video, you can see Breach have a really bad winrate

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Vaaero [#5]

Ya but their lotus became meta. I don't see their iso comp becoming meta because teams are afraid to run an iso (and they also don't have alfa). Their off meta comp has a lot better of a chance of surviving if teams have to specifically prepare. It's a lot easier for teams to prepare if they run a meta comp than off meta, which is what happened last year.

I'm perplexed with Chinese agent. Every agent have either Dive/Mobility, Flash, Reveal, passive vision or smokes. And Sage and Iso are the only one that don't have it, on the paper they should be weak, but both they are the 2 agent with the top 3 NMWR 58% for Sage (!), 55% for ISO, 56% Clove

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nobody___100
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i think once season starts with the predicted agent changes
we might see weird shit like
phoenix jett sova astra cypher
or maybe even chambah who knows

#29
BabyWizard
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Anguibok [#19]

Really ?? Thanks a lot !

yeah me too lol

#30
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Two_Percent [#2]

top teams will play yoru, sova, astra, viper, cypher

other teams will play astra, neon, sova, breach, cypher

some teams will find success playing yoru, sova, omen, neon, cypher

vipers shit in haven after nerfs

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St0rm1820 [#8]

Pearl please

double init seems like meta after nerfs

i thought we would see viper+harbor a lot more with gekko because of how b long is but no

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KOMPOSTO [#30]

vipers shit in haven after nerfs

if you think viper is bad on any map you are delusional

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islaaa
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W analysis as always. Get well soon

#34
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KOMPOSTO [#31]

double init seems like meta after nerfs

i thought we would see viper+harbor a lot more with gekko because of how b long is but no

We can have both 2 init and 2 ctrl, to me it's the futur of Valorant, Sentinel are weak.

They are 4 main spell-archetype :

  • Classical-I 47% PR (1 agent for each role with an Init-flash) NMWR : 48%
  • 0-Flash 14% PR : NMWR 55%
  • 0-Sentinel 14% PR : NMWR 54%
  • Hybrid-C 9% PR (4 agent for each spell + 1 Sentinel) : NMWR 47%

And if I look at the data of classification based on class :
The 2 main archetype are with a Sentinel and they are both in negative
Best archetype seems to be IC (1 Duel 2Ctrl 2Init), based on TMV video I would be surprise if KJ become useless because she was picked for her ult that allow her to clear the site, but since nobody defend on site she becomes useless, and Cypher is to easy to antistrat

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nobody___100 [#28]

i think once season starts with the predicted agent changes
we might see weird shit like
phoenix jett sova astra cypher
or maybe even chambah who knows

I think Cypher is a one way trip, he can live for 3 mounth maximum, then get antistrat and just disapear from the meta (With unbreakable trap, either it's really unbreakable and will be nerf, or it's breakable and he will become useless. I have 0 trust on Cypher on long term (And this agent is really unhealthy for the game)

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