TenZ literally says “new maps suck, let’s start making better maps” and then everybody starts dick riding him as if he just discovered fire with that take. this shit is embarrassing to even look at, entire year has been people complaining about the post plant ape gameplay and then this guy just tweets about it in October and suddenly now people think he did something there. half of the community has to be AI funded in this huge project led by Elon and it’s the sole reason why he’s even interested in Valorant.
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VCT community is so brain rotted
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Nef0r0 [#2]I wonder if valo has some sort of a workshop like CS does? Where the community can actually make maps?
this is Riot Games we’re talking about here
meanie [#3]this is Riot Games we’re talking about here
like it's funny to me how CS frogs talk about how ''chad'' cs community is but then none of them ever remember the true chads who are map makers/skin makers and people who run competitions. There are hubs on faceit dedicated to people who test and make new maps (most notable hub being mapcore, which has given the route for Anubis to enter the map pool and become one of the most popular maps).
Nef0r0 [#4]like it's funny to me how CS frogs talk about how ''chad'' cs community is but then none of them ever remember the true chads who are map makers/skin makers and people who run competitions. There are hubs on faceit dedicated to people who test and make new maps (most notable hub being mapcore, which has given the route for Anubis to enter the map pool and become one of the most popular maps).
I unironically believe that they’re the most spoiled gaming fanbase considering how much complaining I’ve seen them do on twitter. I would sacrifice a newborn to have Valve control Valorant.
meanie [#6]I unironically believe that they’re the most spoiled gaming fanbase considering how much complaining I’ve seen them do on twitter. I would sacrifice a newborn to have Valve control Valorant.
I mean cs is in a worse shape than GO was, but it's getting better. hitreg improved, optimization (for me) improved, game feeling improved, server quality improved, I play on faceit where there is already an anti cheat so I have everything. IF they give more content and add an anti cheat alongside patrol mode, then CS2 will clear GO for me. as for val, I feel like riot have some sort of vision, but they are way too controlling, there is no way for community to project their thoughts and make them real.
I feel like valve just allows the community to control a lot of things, maps can spawn and be added to the game if the community likes them. but the community will play dust/mirage 24/7 and cry about having vertigo in the pool, like motherfucker, just play some Thera or Mills, these are new maps
Nef0r0 [#2]I wonder if valo has some sort of a workshop like CS does? Where the community can actually make maps?
Fans would come up with shit much more abominable than Breeze
Anguibok [#5]Why does he think that ?
I don't get it either. The only problem maps are icebox and sunset B, and only one of those is new
Anguibok [#12]I mean, what would be intresting is Tenz Argument
bombsites should be played on and not played around
bees [#10]I don't get it either. The only problem maps are icebox and sunset B, and only one of those is new
Abyss b site is terrible, only site in the game thats makes me uncomfortable to play on site LMAO
Nef0r0 [#13]bombsites should be played on and not played around
To be fair, ever since I start Val I always play outside the postplant, on everymap, planting on the most open place ever, putting myself in one of the 3 or 5 line that can avoid the defuse, hide, and wait, someone click, I check without doing no sound, they usually dont stick first time, and I go back to where I hide, until it's not a fake.
80% of my kill are somone showing me their back or defusing, I know people play tactical shooting to shoot, but some of use play tactical shouting for the tactical part.
Nef0r0 [#11]and then someone who actually tries would come up with a great map
like, and hear me out here, the professional game developers who do this for a living?
bees [#16]like, and hear me out here, the professional game developers who do this for a living?
maybe their product can turn out more popular amongst the community?
Anguibok [#15]To be fair, ever since I start Val I always play outside the postplant, on everymap, planting on the most open place ever, putting myself in one of the 3 or 5 line that can avoid the defuse, hide, and wait, someone click, I check without doing no sound, they usually dont stick first time, and I go back to where I hide, until it's not a fake.
80% of my kill are somone showing me their back or defusing, I know people play tactical shooting to shoot, but some of use play tactical shouting for the tactical part.
the way you play is correct but tenz probably asks for some diversity in bomb plants
Nef0r0 [#17]maybe their product can turn out more popular amongst the community?
"more popular" to whom? what do you mean? valorant is already one of the top competitive games out there
Nef0r0 [#18]the way you play is correct but tenz probably asks for some diversity in bomb plants
Fair point, i'm curous to see what would he suggest to do
Anguibok [#20]Fair point, i'm curous to see what would he suggest to do
knowing his background, probably A-site mirage from CS :D a few hiding spots, 4 entry ways, height change, cover
bees [#19]"more popular" to whom? what do you mean? valorant is already one of the top competitive games out there
I meant the maps. Like just basically their map is more loved by the players
The only difference is you are not Tenz
You are genuinely N4rrate word if you think you saying something has the same value as Tenz saying it
It doesn't matter how much Riot says they care about the playerbase the most
They don't give a fuck about you
On the other hand, when Tenz says it, it has a different value to it
Because he has clout
If you don't understand how much clout and name value this guy has, you are genuinely naive and delusional
This same happened when he said the pcs are subpar
meanie [#6]I unironically believe that they’re the most spoiled gaming fanbase considering how much complaining I’ve seen them do on twitter. I would sacrifice a newborn to have Valve control Valorant.
if valve had a decent anti-cheat i would tend to agree with you
Nef0r0 [#22]I meant the maps. Like just basically their map is more loved by the players
It would be very difficult to find a community map that everyone loves more than the ones riot already has made. People complain about everything
meanie [#6]I unironically believe that they’re the most spoiled gaming fanbase considering how much complaining I’ve seen them do on twitter. I would sacrifice a newborn to have Valve control Valorant.
bait used to be believable back in my days
bees [#26]It would be very difficult to find a community map that everyone loves more than the ones riot already has made. People complain about everything
people seem to have hated community made maps less in CS
Nef0r0 [#28]people seem to have hated community made maps less in CS
It's very different designing maps for CS compared to valorant where there are many more abilities and agent balance to take into account
bees [#30]It's very different designing maps for CS compared to valorant where there are many more abilities and agent balance to take into account
true, but then most map makers have a basic understanding of how an ability changes the map
Nef0r0 [#31]true, but then most map makers have a basic understanding of how an ability changes the map
I really think you're oversimplifying this. It's much harder to make a balanced map than it looks
bees [#32]I really think you're oversimplifying this. It's much harder to make a balanced map than it looks
I think the best community map would come with the community saying what should be changed
Nef0r0 [#33]I think the best community map would come with the community saying what should be changed
Who is "the community"? Riot sure as shit isn't gonna listen to random gold ranked players complaining about their teammates falling off of Abyss or not closing the door on Sunset.
When it comes to things that are generally evident in pro play and overwhelming feedback, like Sunset B being extremely post-plant spam heavy, they do eventually change those. But only a small amount of the things "the community" complains about reach that level of validity
bees [#34]Who is "the community"? Riot sure as shit isn't gonna listen to random gold ranked players complaining about their teammates falling off of Abyss or not closing the door on Sunset.
When it comes to things that are generally evident in pro play and overwhelming feedback, like Sunset B being extremely post-plant spam heavy, they do eventually change those. But only a small amount of the things "the community" complains about reach that level of validity
mostly pro player opinion + content creators
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