INDIA VALORANT ANALYSIS

Ive been reading posts about this and i thought i would give my 2 cents about it, and say a little bit more than just that they suck

Its not a surprise that indian valorant is one of the weakest subregions in valorant right now. But that raises the question: Are they bad or are they slow (as in not progressing as fast)?

To put this logic into perspective, i will make these claims:

If indian valorant is simply bad, no indian pro ever, in any timeframe of the game wouldve been considered good, even when warping the time.
E.g: The best valorant player of 2024 is still bad compared to good/decent pros from 2020.
If indian valorant is simply slow, some indian pro, in any timeframe of the game wouldve been considered good, even when warping the time.
E.g: The best valorant player of 2024 is good compared to good/decent pros from 2020.
If indian valorant is neither bad nor slow, some indian pro, in the current state of the game would be considered good, without having to warp the time.
E.g: The best valorant player of 2024 is good compared to good/decent pros from 2024.
If indian valorant is bad and slow, no indian pro, in any timeframe of the game wouldve been considered good, even when warping the time, and none has progressed ever since.
E.g: The best valorant player of 2024 is still bad compared to good/decent pros from 2020 and is still as bad as the best indian player of 2020.

Claim 1: Id like to argue that this case is false. Indian valorant has some players who are mechanically good enough to outclass players from 2020, even when it comes to the better players.
Claim 2: This is the most probable case. The rate of development is similar in india and global valorant, just that india has reached the 2020 standard WAY later.
Claim 3: False
Claim 4: Since Claim 1 is false this automatically must be false.

This leaves up with the only conclusion that Indian valorant simply didnt have the same starting point as the other parts of the world. On one side, NA and EU had players with way more experience coming into the scene while india had some random boomers who also sucked in the game previously.
Similar to china: Indian valorant was/is way behind. The difference in china is, china caught up way quicker.

Reasons why indian valorant was behind:

• Lack of good experienced players transfering to valorant (most relevant)
• Economic situation
• Social situation

What to do now?: Build random academies and allow talent to grow. Pick out the best talent and start building upon it. Involve experienced people, international coaches is the most straightforward possibility. There is a lot to catch up, but since valorant has a meta that changes literally from one month to another, its not too late for indians.

I think it's a matter of giving it time, just like CN and APAC. Maybe yeah it's slower but if there's investment and engagement in the scene they'll get there

Aayan [#2]

I think it's a matter of giving it time, just like CN and APAC. Maybe yeah it's slower but if there's investment and engagement in the scene they'll get there

The growth as of right now is literally almost like a horizontal curve. There seems to be little to no improvement, and it has been the same top 10 players in india since 2020. No new talent is coming.

If the growth continues to be this slow, india will never catch up, in fact, they will fall behind. I think we shouldnt give them time but instead its NOW that they make drastic changes.
Im aware of the economical situations and etc, but by the time that fixes it will already be too late.

its a population issue, pretty much everyone in india play mobile games due to the rarity of pcs and the prestablished culture creating a microscopic pool of valo players

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legit the first step for the indian scene to develop is for young people to start playing. otherwise the indian scene will never develop

Good analysis brother

I should do analysis like this too about japan so hopefully we can dispel some stigmas about japanese valorant

Ballsamolee [#6]

legit the first step for the indian scene to develop is for young people to start playing. otherwise the indian scene will never develop

Now the question is how do you get them to play?

What bout Africa?

welikefortniteandvalorant [#3]

The growth as of right now is literally almost like a horizontal curve. There seems to be little to no improvement, and it has been the same top 10 players in india since 2020. No new talent is coming.

If the growth continues to be this slow, india will never catch up, in fact, they will fall behind. I think we shouldnt give them time but instead its NOW that they make drastic changes.
Im aware of the economical situations and etc, but by the time that fixes it will already be too late.

Part of the problem is that orgs don't take enough risks and try new players out and only rely on old players most of the time, also feels like only Venka and maybe Techno are the legit only real talent for the Indian scene in the last 4years.

They need to be harsh on their regional talents and swap old players out with more younger people in the scene. A lot of those olds players like Skillz don't even have good enough mechanical skill to survive against the average radiant apac player, they are so far behind just in the mechanics it's actually insane, especially this Ascension just showed how much worse the "best" Indians players were in aiming than most other regions.

C310 [#10]

Part of the problem is that orgs don't take enough risks and try new players out and only rely on old players most of the time, also feels like only Venka and maybe Techno are the legit only real talent for the Indian scene in the last 4years.

They need to be harsh on their regional talents and swap old players out with more younger people in the scene. A lot of those olds players like Skillz don't even have good enough mechanical skill to survive against the average radiant apac player, they are so far behind just in the mechanics it's actually insane, especially this Ascension just showed how much worse the "best" Indians players were in aiming than most other regions.

I completely agree with all points made.

I absolutely do not understand how skillz even gets a spot in t2, ive seen plat players with better mechanics than skillz

And its also very confusing since aim is the easiest aspect of the game you can improve on, atleast to a respectable level, it seems like the general knowledge is not high enough

IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Good analysis brother

I should do analysis like this too about japan so hopefully we can dispel some stigmas about japanese valorant

Thanks brother

Yes, i would like to read a post about japanese valorant. Despite their good infrastructure they have only shown minimal performance so far. It feels like talent is there (SyouTa, Meiy, some other guy i forgot the name of) but its not being utilized correctly

IonlywatchvcjXD [#8]

Now the question is how do you get them to play?

wait till Valorant mobile comes out and have them kids swap over to PC one day. It will just take a decade till they are catching up smh.

Realistically the orgs in the scene just need to take more risks and just take young ranked players with good mechanical talent and start building academy rosters with the goal of developing young talent. Imo you can't have players with bad mechanics in your team unless they are the igl, a lot of those older Indian pros just are genuinely bad at aiming compared to other regions players.

With all due respect allat

ur wrong heres why

no indian player (atleast those that represent india, I think FNS is indian idk) has ever been a tier 1 player, skrossi has never been.. a tier 1 player, he just played in tier 1, his level is far below

and they likely today aren't more talented than sentinels was in 2020 lol

IonlywatchvcjXD [#8]

Now the question is how do you get them to play?

I think the major issue is that there is no thing such as a "role model" in india.
In japan there is meiy
In indonesia there is f0rsaken
In SEA there is primmie
In china there is KK obviously
In korea there are many notably t3xture

In india the closest to a role model is SkRossi, someone who played a handful games in T1, choked again and again, as a player is pretty mediocre and yeah thats pretty much it. The indian fans that have some ounce of knowledge now dont even regard skrossi in that way, so there is virtually no player and therefore no motivation.

Valorant in india has no motion.

gamergirl [#15]

ur wrong heres why

no indian player (atleast those that represent india, I think FNS is indian idk) has ever been a tier 1 player, skrossi has never been.. a tier 1 player, he just played in tier 1, his level is far below

and they likely today aren't more talented than sentinels was in 2020 lol

I dont think you understand the post. Please reread it
And to state your last point, i definetely think Venka is better than the entire sen roster excluding tenz in 2020

To further reinforce that argument, doma and ec1s who played "Tier 1" before couldnt perform well in indian valorant league.

Aayan [#2]

I think it's a matter of giving it time, just like CN and APAC. Maybe yeah it's slower but if there's investment and engagement in the scene they'll get there

I doubt it tbh, China is China, I would've never doubted them to do that in any game. India is way further behind then China was and they aren't China.

welikefortniteandvalorant [#11]

I completely agree with all points made.

I absolutely do not understand how skillz even gets a spot in t2, ive seen plat players with better mechanics than skillz

And its also very confusing since aim is the easiest aspect of the game you can improve on, atleast to a respectable level, it seems like the general knowledge is not high enough

aim training really isn't that hard to get into, they are a lot of good guides from people in the aim community to get better in aiming fast. Maybe they also have a really bad problem with work ethic if they can't get those basics done.

The biggest problem is obviously lack of good coaching, like even if players like Paradox and Skrossi have "okay-ish" mechanics they have really bad fundamentals: they take too many solo fights, don't set themselves up with util, do enough basic crossfires and sometimes completely don't understand how to play in situations with an advantage or disadvantage. It's not even strats a lot of the times it's just about how you should play in a tac-fps in general.

Either way it's a lot of issues that are lined up and dealing with them takes years even if they start to build academy rosters next year, results will take a lot of time and the playerbase needs to start grinding hard to make finding talent easier.

welikefortniteandvalorant [#12]

Thanks brother

Yes, i would like to read a post about japanese valorant. Despite their good infrastructure they have only shown minimal performance so far. It feels like talent is there (SyouTa, Meiy, some other guy i forgot the name of) but its not being utilized correctly

They're very underutilized indeed, to make matters worse the talents deserving tier 1 are scattered across teams ( NOBITA in SG , FL trios in FL, riddle kids, reject core) so it's actually not an easy task for zeta and dfm to assemble their rosters.

In a perfect world jp talent pool can fit 2 spots given to them and might reach 2 and a half or even 3 if we really want to stretch it, but we're in reality 😂.

aint reading allat so i agree

dont need your 2 cents, fuck off

Pinpoint analysis

C310 [#13]

wait till Valorant mobile comes out and have them kids swap over to PC one day. It will just take a decade till they are catching up smh.

Realistically the orgs in the scene just need to take more risks and just take young ranked players with good mechanical talent and start building academy rosters with the goal of developing young talent. Imo you can't have players with bad mechanics in your team unless they are the igl, a lot of those older Indian pros just are genuinely bad at aiming compared to other regions players.

here's the kicker. there are no young talent for orgs to take risks on or to make academy rosters out of.

Ballsamolee [#24]

here's the kicker. there are no young talent for orgs to take risks on or to make academy rosters out of.

There is none if you don't even try. Reusing the same old washed players won't achieve anything long term. At this point look out for ranked/premier players and just try to recruit them at least that will get them somewhere even if it takes years, If you don't do anything at all nothing happens.