Frooti [#3]Bro you can’t compare the two events
If NRG organized an EU vs NA and SEN organized something like NRG did yesterday, SEN would have way less viewers
How? They couldn't even arrange for a stable connection throughout stream and that too without server for better spectating.
1243 [#2]also why is twitch chat tweaking, voting ice cream man instead of zekken insane recency bias to just forget map 1
Zekken doesn't need a charity Rolly anyway. He gets paid the big bucks by Razer. Toronto man can have it honestly.
1243 [#2]also why is twitch chat tweaking, voting ice cream man instead of zekken insane recency bias to just forget map 1
cause it would be funny if Marved won in a tourney hosted by a team he was glazing while shitting on his past team.
Frooti [#3]Bro you can’t compare the two events
If NRG organized an EU vs NA and SEN organized something like NRG did yesterday, SEN would have way less viewers
youre delulu bro
SaltyMcNulty [#5]Zekken doesn't need a charity Rolly anyway. He gets paid the big bucks by Razer. Toronto man can have it honestly.
true ig but valorant fans go crazy on the recency bias
Suiiiiiii [#4]How? They couldn't even arrange for a stable connection throughout stream and that too without server for better spectating.
There is now world Sen has less viewers.. he’s probably high
Frooti [#3]Bro you can’t compare the two events
If NRG organized an EU vs NA and SEN organized something like NRG did yesterday, SEN would have way less viewers
that's just false LOL
Frooti [#3]Bro you can’t compare the two events
If NRG organized an EU vs NA and SEN organized something like NRG did yesterday, SEN would have way less viewers
honestly don't think so even tarik vs sen brought in more viewers. Kinda sad to see honestly
Wow Ludwig just joined SEN? Tarik donating to Gaza with his subs money means it was SEN who did that then.
Sen Showmatch > NRG tourney sure but Tarik x Ludwig isn't Sentinels Showmatch and NRG's one was meant to feature content creators not pros. Tarik is also about to play with OTV and that one isn't gonna have that much views.
Again since the SEN fans might still be confused. "VCT off season official event: Ludwig X Tarik" is not a Sentinels tournament lol.
Are SEN fans all 12 years old kids or what
CurryCooker [#6]cause it would be funny if Marved won in a tourney hosted by a team he was glazing while shitting on his past team.
wow this is a crazy storyline, actually cooking
Suiiiiiii [#4]How? They couldn't even arrange for a stable connection throughout stream and that too without server for better spectating.
maybe they were not super trying to get a lot of viewers as well
Tadpole3 [#14]Wow Ludwig just joined SEN? Tarik donating to Gaza with his subs money means it was SEN who did that then.
Sen Showmatch > NRG tourney sure but Tarik x Ludwig isn't Sentinels Showmatch and NRG's one was meant to feature content creators not pros. Tarik is also about to play with OTV and that one isn't gonna have that much views.
Again since the SEN fans might still be confused. "VCT off season official event: Ludwig X Tarik" is not a Sentinels tournament lol.
Are SEN fans all 12 years old kids or what
Then why is everything regd production is taking at Sentinels HQ, why not at a proper arena/studio?
Tadpole3 [#14]Wow Ludwig just joined SEN? Tarik donating to Gaza with his subs money means it was SEN who did that then.
Sen Showmatch > NRG tourney sure but Tarik x Ludwig isn't Sentinels Showmatch and NRG's one was meant to feature content creators not pros. Tarik is also about to play with OTV and that one isn't gonna have that much views.
Again since the SEN fans might still be confused. "VCT off season official event: Ludwig X Tarik" is not a Sentinels tournament lol.
Are SEN fans all 12 years old kids or what
It's being held at the SEN HQ, hosted by a SEN streamer , being broadcasted on a SEN members stream, SEN fans are the live crowd of the event, It has 4 SEN players playing,SEN players dominating the even. Like bruh? It's literally SEN event in a different packaging
CurryCooker [#7]youre delulu bro
Its unfair to compare a showmatch with literal randoms against actual tourneys with full pros
People are obviously gonna watch the tourney with pros
1243 [#18]true, first good point but zekken has better overall stats and almost 100 more acs, fair to say zekken was MVP but you're dort
reduxx had more acs than marved
doesn't mean shit
dort [#21]reduxx had more acs than marved
doesn't mean shit
wdym doesn't mean shit, lol better acs kast adr and first kill and rating, zekken was objectively better
1243 [#2]also why is twitch chat tweaking, voting ice cream man instead of zekken insane recency bias to just forget map 1
marved was better in this game
marved map 2 > zekken map 1 and map 2 was the more important map, as it was closer. only a stats watcher or sen fan would call zekken mvp
also you cannot use acs to compare duelist to controller. it is brain damage
Frooti [#20]Its unfair to compare a showmatch with literal randoms against actual tourneys with full pros
People are obviously gonna watch the tourney with pros
It's unfair to compare NRG with SEN
kanyefan4238173 [#23]marved was better in this game
marved map 2 > zekken map 1 and map 2 was the more important map, as it was closer. only a stats watcher or sen fan would call zekken mvp
also you cannot use acs to compare duelist to controller. it is brain damage
zekken map 2>>>>>>> marved map1 that isn't even close, you're just biased, calling all stats useless cuz you can't refute that zekken has objectively better stats, that's crazy
LordItachi [#24]It's unfair to compare NRG with SEN
True
SEN is effectively a one game org
They probably invest 90% of their esports budget into VAL compared to NRG who probably only spends a fraction
1243 [#22]wdym doesn't mean shit, lol better acs kast adr and first kill and rating, zekken was objectively better
ur delusional buddy
1243 [#26]zekken map 2>>>>>>> marved map1 that isn't even close, you're just biased, calling all stats useless cuz you can't refute that zekken has objectively better stats, that's crazy
how can you say im biased as if you are not
marved played better on the more important map, he had more impact on the series overall
i dont care to explain it further, you either understand or you dont
Frooti [#27]True
SEN is effectively a one game org
They probably invest 90% of their esports budget into VAL compared to NRG who probably only spends a fraction
Nah NRG management just bad.
syncz [#25]"No one can chat to us" bro thinks he is on the team 😭 defending the org with his life
Funny thing is I am not even a SEN fanboy anymore 😭
Frooti [#33]SEN literally needed crowdfunding lmao
Are you right in your head ? Does crowdfunding makes a Org bad ? If they're doing bad then they are bad like NRG management. If they're doing good then they are good Like SEN :)
LordItachi [#34]Are you right in your head ? Does crowdfunding makes a Org bad ? If they're doing bad then they are bad like NRG management. If they're doing good then they are good Like SEN :)
Management is bad if you need crowdfunding to be sustainable
Frooti [#35]Management is bad if you need crowdfunding to be sustainable
this is just not true at all
shawn813 [#37]this is just not true at all
Yes it is lmao
You aren’t budgeting properly
It means you are overspending and you are relying on an unpredictable 3rd party (fans) to sustain you
Frooti [#38]Yes it is lmao
You aren’t budgeting properly
It means you are overspending and you are relying on an unpredictable 3rd party (fans) to sustain you
Well Sentinels did claim they are profitable and they are also winning and making lans . With All of this success I don't see Why NRG like org which doens't do any of those would be compared to SEN. You can literally also compare fans by YouTube subscribers. Also if SEN is bad then NRG is Trash .
LordItachi [#39]Well Sentinels did claim they are profitable and they are also winning and making lans . With All of this success I don't see Why NRG like org which doens't do any of those would be compared to SEN. You can literally also compare fans by YouTube subscribers. Also if SEN is bad then NRG is Trash .
NRG management is way better than SEN
And NRG isn’t a one game org
Frooti [#40]NRG management is way better than SEN
And NRG isn’t a one game org
You're just yapping now ,
You didn't counter any points and
Didn't write any facts regarding your opinion
Just yap yap yap.
LordItachi [#41]You're just yapping now ,
You didn't counter any points and
Didn't write any facts regarding your opinion
Just yap yap yap.
Bro its a literal fact
Your management is bad if you need crowdfunding
That means your management doesn’t know how to spend money and doesn’t know how to budget
I just told you the facts
SEN management is shit if they need to rely on crowdfunding to sustain their org
You are a moron if you think youtube subs mean anything
And NRG literally has more subs than SEN you fraud
Frooti [#42]Bro its a literal fact
Your management is bad if you need crowdfunding
That means your management doesn’t know how to spend money and doesn’t know how to budget
I just told you the facts
SEN management is shit if they need to rely on crowdfunding to sustain their org
You are a moron if you think youtube subs mean anything
And NRG literally has more subs than SEN you fraud
Sentinels has 922k subs and NRG valorant has 204k valorant . Do better.
Also tell me what is the point of the ORG is that not winning, making money , and gaining fans monetising them and making players their own brands ?
Literally in all those department SEN is much ahead .
Also SEN did crowdfunding last year July . Their situation was bad then and they improved. So much so that NRG looks trash jn front of them.
LordItachi [#43]Sentinels has 922k subs and NRG valorant has 204k valorant . Do better.
Also tell me what is the point of the ORG is that not winning, making money , and gaining fans monetising them and making players their own brands ?
Literally in all those department SEN is much ahead .
Also SEN did crowdfunding last year July . Their situation was bad then and they improved. So much so that NRG looks trash jn front of them.
You idiot NRG’s main channel has 1.25 mil SEN main channel only has 922k
See you literally need to compare a subdivision of NRG’s youtube to validate your point
Why are you not comparing SEN’s main channel to NRG’s main channel
And bro NRG literally make more money than SEN
I already proved this with the fact that SEN need crowdfunding
NRG has multiple esports teams and is profiting off of multiple games
SEN is a VAL team
Also tell me what is the point of the ORG is that not winning, making money , and gaining fans monetising them and making players their own brands ?
What are you even trying to say
Work on typing
Frooti [#45]You idiot NRG’s main channel has 1.25 mil SEN main channel only has 922k
See you literally need to compare a subdivision of NRG’s youtube to validate your point
Why are you not comparing SEN’s main channel to NRG’s main channel
And bro NRG literally make more money than SEN
I already proved this with the fact that SEN need crowdfunding
NRG has multiple esports teams and is profiting off of multiple games
SEN is a VAL team
Also tell me what is the point of the ORG is that not winning, making money , and gaining fans monetising them and making players their own brands ?What are you even trying to say
Work on typing
It's VLR forum , we are taking about Valorant and how horrible was the NRG show match with not "random anybodys" but Valorant streamers .
So why the fuck would I consider Main NRG .
Also as per your saying "One game Org SEN " is literally much closer to your many Game org NRG in terms of Subs .
The things you did not understand with your reading comprehension:
The goal of an ORG should be : 1)winning
2) making money
3) gaining fans
4) monetising your fans
5) making their player a brand of themselves for their own sustainability.
Which in all terms SEN is winning .
LordItachi [#47]It's VLR forum , we are taking about Valorant and how horrible was the NRG show match with not "random anybodys" but Valorant streamers .
So why the fuck would I consider Main NRG .Also as per your saying "One game Org SEN " is literally much closer to your many Game org NRG in terms of Subs .
The things you did not understand with your reading comprehension:
The goal of an ORG should be : 1)winning
2) making money
3) gaining fans
4) monetising your fans
5) making their player a brand of themselves for their own sustainability.Which in all terms SEN is winning .
Yea bro SEN is a more popular VALORANT team
Im saying in esports NRG is a better org
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