are coaches underrated?

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kalayav_n

yay is nothing without chet helping him abuse agents,

LOUD are like man utd, nothing with fRoD;

we need to start respecting coaches.

top 3 coaches of all time for me:

fRoD,
potter,
mini/alecksdesk

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Liwus

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Might be, if someone as bad as D00mbr0s makes a team better...

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kalayav_n

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he wouldve made my top 3 list but IDK i just can't put those 4 behind anyone

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chrlxz

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when a team is winning = wow the players are insane

when a team is losing = kick the coach

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kalayav_n

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real shit, when a player is doing good, "OH WOW LOOK AT THAT MAN PLAYER INSANE", when player doing bad, "OMG KICK COACH CANT USE PLAYER CORRECTLY"

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Uribaba

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You wrote exactly what he said

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kalayav_n

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real shit, he wrote exactly what i said

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Veri

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thats pretty much every sport ever

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cloudberry

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All due respect to fRoD but he is NOT the make or break for LOUD

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kalayav_n

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not the guy who clearly made tuyz the guy who he is today, nah definitely didn't make the META BREAKING COMPOSITION(harbor viper). remember cauanzin? yeah thats him right there

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Veri

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cauanzin and tuyz' developments as players is like 80% due to saadhak not frod

thou i have to agree frod was very fucking helpful for Loud and i cannot fathom that we lost him. We were pistol round gods when he was around.

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kalayav_n

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no no it was fRoD's idea to transition tuyz into a harbor demon and controller, i remember in a interview i watched long time ago(not the exact quote but similar). "when we got tuyz he was just a cracked duelist, and i thought to my self how can we make this guy a controller or initator. then the new agent harbor came out and we were like(we as in im assuming him and saadhaak) lets just make him learn harbor since its very new and itll just be easier."

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Veri

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i mean sure the ideia was frod's but im pretty sure saadhak had to teach tuyz pretty much everything about how to actually play as a controller in game. Im talking about like actual gameplay development as in the controller role. I imagine it would be more of an IGL role to do this

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cauanzin was already a cracked initiator player
tuyz was thinking changing roles before going to loud

and both were sacy's recommendations

them being world s tier is 50/50 saadhak and frod

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Trip11

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well yeah. especially when it comes to like the top 8 teams in the world, at that point we know everybody is more or less equally cracked at aiming and mechanics. What decides their victory above other teams is their teamplay and the coach's involvement from team comps and in-game strats.

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kalayav_n

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and importantly HOW GOOD is the IGL outside of the game. team morale is a real thing

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ValAnalist1

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overrated imo. Coach is almost useless.
It's difficult for me to elaborate in English, but basically the coaches came from other FPS that are very different from Valorant, so they don't have as much knowledge to add to the teams. They are necessary for noting errors, creating tactics (along with the igl), but this task will be much more valued if former Valorant players like FNS become a coach. Because he has lived Valorant and knows how the game works. Coaches know how FPS works, not Valorant itself.