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Where does Aspas go now?

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snowconedeity

I mean i’m sure any of the SA orgs will take him obviously but does he even want to join them? Or will we see something crazy like ZETA Aspas or GE Aspas

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Zeta has Syouta, no thanks

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DRG

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#2]

Zeta has Syouta, no thanks

Syouta over aspas?????

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laifu [#3]

DRG

DRG

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GE and Zeta are the only teams who might be interested idk if ge has the money tho.

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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derptz [#4]

Syouta over aspas?????

Can aspas speak Japanese?? Because Syouta can.

I think we are crazy if we think all aspas needs to do is just fragging without any proper comms, this is a team game dammit

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#2]

Zeta has Syouta, no thanks

I mean i agree Syouta deserves the chance but if Apsas says he wants to join a team he’s joining that team simple as that.

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Can aspas speak Japanese?? Because Syouta can.

I think we are crazy if we think all aspas needs to do is just fragging without any proper comms, this is a team game dammit

he can! his games been in Japanese since 2021 and iirc he’s almost fluent in the language

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snowconedeity [#8]

I mean i agree Syouta deserves the chance but if Apsas says he wants to join a team he’s joining that team simple as that.

Are we seriouslly forgetting that aspas needs to comm? You don't expect him to not comming the whole season, do you?

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CanadaMan [#5]

DRG

DRG

#12
snowconedeity
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laifu [#3]

DRG

we all clowned Rocket for this but he might’ve been 5 steps ahead…

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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snowconedeity [#9]

he can! his games been in Japanese since 2021 and iirc he’s almost fluent in the language

Put your goddamn source, and no, putting your games in Japanese doesn't mean you can speak Japanese.

If I put my game setting in Spanish, that doesn't mean I can speak spanish

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Fnatic

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#10]

Are we seriouslly forgetting that aspas needs to comm? You don't expect him to not comming the whole season, do you?

T1 used to comm in english soooo

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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wololo___ [#15]

T1 used to comm in english soooo

They tried it for 1 year, tossed the project and are now opting full Korean.

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Team Liquid , aspas and nAts would go hard ngl

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Uribaba
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IonlywatchvcjXD [#13]

Put your goddamn source, and no, putting your games in Japanese doesn't mean you can speak Japanese.

If I put my game setting in Spanish, that doesn't mean I can speak spanish

He knows Japanese as much as I have learnt from watching anime

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#13]

Put your goddamn source, and no, putting your games in Japanese doesn't mean you can speak Japanese.

If I put my game setting in Spanish, that doesn't mean I can speak spanish

https://x.com/valo2asia/status/1695339269743903026?s=46&t=5owx1Q387xHhOjPeHflFFA

I thought he had been fluent but that’s my bad, here he states clearly he’s taking lessons though (although the duration is unknown)

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#16]

They tried it for 1 year, tossed the project and are now opting full Korean.

Well they got into tokyo and LA didnt they?

Though that didnt work out smoothly….. same the next year after that

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Stay in LEV with Demon1 now

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Can aspas speak Japanese?? Because Syouta can.

I think we are crazy if we think all aspas needs to do is just fragging without any proper comms, this is a team game dammit

He doesn’t need to study or speak japanese.
He can carry those zeta bums to international.

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snowconedeity [#19]

https://x.com/valo2asia/status/1695339269743903026?s=46&t=5owx1Q387xHhOjPeHflFFA

I thought he had been fluent but that’s my bad, here he states clearly he’s taking lessons though (although the duration is unknown)

I mean I'm aware of him using Japanese as his default game language for quite some time now, I watched jp vtubers for almost 1 year now and I can't even form 1 proper sentence, he needs to speak them if he really wants to join Zeta

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I'm guessing Lev will probably lower the buyout eventually

#25
Congo1
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Navi ditching Koalanoob for baitpas

#26
foythvlr
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Probably still APAC

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#23]

I mean I'm aware of him using Japanese as his default game language for quite some time now, I watched jp vtubers for almost 1 year now and I can't even form 1 proper sentence, he needs to speak them if he really wants to join Zeta

he said in a post-game interview that he's taking japanese lessons (he was still at LOUD, so obviously he must have improved since then)

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1ski [#27]

he said in a post-game interview that he's taking japanese lessons (he was still at LOUD, so obviously he must have improved since then)

What kind of lessons? Duolingo or any online language learning app? Does he have a conversation with Japanese speaker? Even that doesn't guarantee how much he actually improved, ultimately you need to comm in Japanese which needs much more time to prepare, I would argue Comming in Japanese requires another skillset just like any language.

There's no guaranntee that Zeta are willing to afford his price tag anyways..

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foythvlr [#24]

I'm guessing Lev will probably lower the buyout eventually

why? they will tell aspas that no teams can afford him, (which is true, even if a org can pay the buyout, his salary is so high) he will be in contract jail. the best option for all parties is pretend nothing happened and continue with -Mazino +Demon1, assuming that LEV have not signed replacement for aspas yet. If they have then aspas will probably be in contract jail

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#28]

What kind of lessons? Duolingo or any online language learning app? Does he have a conversation with Japanese speaker? Even that doesn't guarantee how much he actually improved, ultimately you need to comm in Japanese which needs much more time to prepare, I would argue Comming in Japanese requires another skillset just like any language.

There's no guaranntee that Zeta are willing to afford his price tag anyways..

i mean... idk lol. here's the source tho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU_2QyKBy4Q

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#28]

What kind of lessons? Duolingo or any online language learning app? Does he have a conversation with Japanese speaker? Even that doesn't guarantee how much he actually improved, ultimately you need to comm in Japanese which needs much more time to prepare, I would argue Comming in Japanese requires another skillset just like any language.

There's no guaranntee that Zeta are willing to afford his price tag anyways..

also, the roster could go international and speak english

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1ski [#30]

i mean... idk lol. here's the source tho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vU_2QyKBy4Q

It's a 1 year old clip, any updates on this? If not, then it's safe to assume he gave up on learning one just like 97% learners 😅😂

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siphonval [#29]

why? they will tell aspas that no teams can afford him, (which is true, even if a org can pay the buyout, his salary is so high) he will be in contract jail. the best option for all parties is pretend nothing happened and continue with -Mazino +Demon1, assuming that LEV have not signed replacement for aspas yet. If they have then aspas will probably be in contract jail

lev was already building a roster without aspas, they probably have it locked by now. they will probably need the money to pay for demon1, and if they don't lower it no offer will come. they will essentially be losing money every month paying aspas on the bench (and his wage will be big even if its cut because of the bench), so its more worth it to lower it and still win money to at least cover for demon1 costs.

im guessing theres a small chance again now aspas stays but i dont think anyone wants that anymore there

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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1ski [#31]

also, the roster could go international and speak english

I doubt Japanese players can comm in English. T1 tried it, and it's safe to say we know they would do better if they went for full korean instead.

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foythvlr [#33]

lev was already building a roster without aspas, they probably have it locked by now. they will probably need the money to pay for demon1, and if they don't lower it no offer will come. they will essentially be losing money every month paying aspas on the bench (and his wage will be big even if its cut because of the bench), so its more worth it to lower it and still win money to at least cover for demon1 costs.

im guessing theres a small chance again now aspas stays but i dont think anyone wants that anymore there

if they have it locked then this is a really fked scenario for aspas lol

#36
i11matic
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Retirement home hopefully

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siphonval [#35]

if they have it locked then this is a really fked scenario for aspas lol

even if they didn't, i don't think they want aspas there anymore after he basically forced his way out of the team lol

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Can aspas speak Japanese?? Because Syouta can.

I think we are crazy if we think all aspas needs to do is just fragging without any proper comms, this is a team game dammit

id prefer having aspas being quiet all year on duelist than syouta comming like saadhak

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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Patoow14 [#38]

id prefer having aspas being quiet all year on duelist than syouta comming like saadhak

Saadhak won you your champions by comming in Portuguese and not in Spanish. You should know better about comms and winning

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i11matic [#36]

Retirement home hopefully

Lil bros about to be downvoted lmao you don't trash talk one of the two faces of valorant

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Can aspas speak Japanese?? Because Syouta can.

I think we are crazy if we think all aspas needs to do is just fragging without any proper comms, this is a team game dammit

these people think speaking basic japanese is enough to communicate in Japanese in pro play. There is a reason why so few Koreans who are very 'successful' in jp scene, and ALL of the ones who succeed speak very good Japanese (joxjo, seoldam, astell, etc). This is sad man, ppl don't realise language is a HUGE barrier

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Realm3098
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Can none of the Brazilian orgs afford to buyout aspas??
2G needs a replacement for spike or even loud doesn't have a dualist..

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IonlywatchvcjXD
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yellow_donkey [#41]

these people think speaking basic japanese is enough to communicate in Japanese in pro play. There is a reason why so few Koreans who are very 'successful' in jp scene, and ALL of the ones who succeed speak very good Japanese (joxjo, seoldam, astell, etc). This is sad man, ppl don't realise language is a HUGE barrier

This is one of the consequences of letting too many imports into the region, everyone thinks jp is an easy region to play.
I mentioned this in one of my post talking about how "value" and "percieved value" are essentialy 2 different things

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#43]

This is one of the consequences of letting too many imports into the region, everyone thinks jp is an easy region to play.
I mentioned this in one of my post talking about how "value" and "percieved value" are essentialy 2 different things

exactlyy

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IHaveAnswers
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Realm3098 [#42]

Can none of the Brazilian orgs afford to buyout aspas??
2G needs a replacement for spike or even loud doesn't have a dualist..

He has a reportedly $250k buyout, so yeah I don't think brazilian org except FURIA (mibr and loud are cheap orgs and 2g ain't got that money especially for a stand-in) can pay that and FURIA already has settled(?) on Mwzera

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#39]

Saadhak won you your champions by comming in Portuguese and not in Spanish. You should know better about comms and winning

thats not what i meant, i wanted to say that i prefer aspas without a mic than syouta with one even if he speaks like saadhak in game(in japanese)

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deflinger [#40]

Lil bros about to be downvoted lmao you don't trash talk one of the two faces of valorant

aspas is not one of the faces of valorant lmao. at the very least kang kang and yay are way more popular and yay has been fucking around for a couple years and i'd say he's still more popular than aspas

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saebr [#47]

aspas is not one of the faces of valorant lmao. at the very least kang kang and yay are way more popular and yay has been fucking around for a couple years and i'd say he's still more popular than aspas

kangkang isnt popular. hell half of valorant players wouldnt even be able to type kangkangs ign

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IonlywatchvcjXD [#7]

Can aspas speak Japanese?? Because Syouta can.

I think we are crazy if we think all aspas needs to do is just fragging without any proper comms, this is a team game dammit

Its over bro, Aspas is joining Zeta, pls, dont commit a terrorist attack against Zeta ceo 🙏

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