why EU stealing our players?

they could just grab some russkis and turks but instead theyre stealing players from loud and mxs

karma for destroying fpx core

Cause the NA orgs don't want them clearly

They have T2 IGLs to pick at in their region but they don’t have faith in them for some reason

Best for KOI to pick up the entire NRG squad if rito lifted import limits

kid_named_finger [#4]

They have T2 IGLs to pick at in their region but they don’t have faith in them for some reason

Their best IGL is Boaster, that should explain why

vcls spread the talent out so much that orgs dont trust players to be good due to them being big fish in small ponds instead of the massive na challengers scene

Because memea is a talentless region. they have realized real talent is in Na

ShuGo [#6]

Their best IGL is Boaster, that should explain why

funny but let’s not act like boo doesn’t call and shoot circles around that guy

Riot delete cis and now memea dont know which talent is good

NA has far fewer slots for all of our talent. 25 at the start of franchising and now 30 with G2’s Ascension — EMEA has double that at 60 slots. The competition is much tighter and players know there’s another 30+ pool of T2 talent that wants their spot.

NA also has a smaller T2 league relative to EMEA with teams that we often get to see play against T1 in offseason tournaments. The worst in the league are relegated out between splits and the best are considered prime scrim partners by the T1 teams. By contrast, EMEA T2 has a ton of T2 leagues that dilute talent and make it difficult to measure the level of play when every representative gets to farms their respective regions.

I think most would agree that three T2 teams from this year: M80, OXG, and MxS would fit just fine in T1 around 8-12th in the league if not higher. G2 has proven this by placing 5th at Kickoffs and then 2nd in Split 1 after roles swaps.

M80’s original 2023 core was more consistent than TGRD’s (now G2) and just missed out on ascending. They dominated Split 2 this year and were high priority scrim partners among T1 teams.

OXG proved themselves in the off-season, taking matches off 100T and G2 (pre-Icy), as well as having close games with SEN. They were also priority scrim partners and dominated Split 1.

MxS were created by taking the supportive core of Moist, who placed third behind TGRD and M80 last year and adding fragging players from SR: Mada and v1c. They’ve finished third in every Split but always by the thinnest margins — like again in this list.

There are no doubts that the better players on these teams are all T1 quality. They’re proven and consistent but don’t have the opportunity — that’s why other regions are picking them up. On the bright side, we should be recouping N4rrate, Rossy, and Yay.

As an eu fan, Americas has far more talent.

gold2peak [#2]

karma for destroying fpx core

they destroyed it themselves lmao 1 tourney wonders

Hades_Loves_Rb [#13]

they destroyed it themselves lmao 1 tourney wonders

The other finalist got grouped at champs 2022 and FPX still reached top 4 so I think they did fine that year

catNmouse [#14]

The other finalist got grouped at champs 2022 and FPX still reached top 4 so I think they did fine that year

yes and lets remind themselves how they got 4th

Beat shit KRU
Lost to XSET (how you losing too Dephh and Ayrin)
Beat KRU again
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX
Beat LEV (beating a team with tacolilla and igl on duelist aint an acomplishment)
Wouldve lost to XSET again if it wasnt for turret bug
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX

Great tourney run

sideshowsbaldhead [#9]

funny but let’s not act like boo doesn’t call and shoot circles around that guy

Boo was frying GenG at champs

Hades_Loves_Rb [#15]

yes and lets remind themselves how they got 4th

Beat shit KRU
Lost to XSET (how you losing too Dephh and Ayrin)
Beat KRU again
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX
Beat LEV (beating a team with tacolilla and igl on duelist aint an acomplishment)
Wouldve lost to XSET again if it wasnt for turret bug
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX

Great tourney run

better than grouped

I think its more complicated than "stealing players". If most of these EMEA teams are stacked with veterans, then they want to focus on perfecting their craft to win tournaments. It takes a lot of time and energy to improve as a team and mentor young, tier 2 talent to become tier 1 stars. It is not to give them bail to look internationally than domestically, but it shows that they might not be up to the task.

Hades_Loves_Rb [#15]

yes and lets remind themselves how they got 4th

Beat shit KRU
Lost to XSET (how you losing too Dephh and Ayrin)
Beat KRU again
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX
Beat LEV (beating a team with tacolilla and igl on duelist aint an acomplishment)
Wouldve lost to XSET again if it wasnt for turret bug
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX

Great tourney run

Won EMEA stage 1 couldn't make it to Reykjavik 2022 due to the War( would have given a run to teams like Loud and Optic)
Won Copenhagen through lower brackets
Made it to 4th place Champs.
That's already a better year for the team than most other teams.
So calling them 1 trophy wonders is wild when they had a great year.

ShuGo [#6]

Their best IGL is Boaster, that should explain why

And your Best IGL got cooked by some T2 IGL in Redbull.

Hades_Loves_Rb [#15]

yes and lets remind themselves how they got 4th

Beat shit KRU
Lost to XSET (how you losing too Dephh and Ayrin)
Beat KRU again
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX
Beat LEV (beating a team with tacolilla and igl on duelist aint an acomplishment)
Wouldve lost to XSET again if it wasnt for turret bug
Lost 1 close map and 1 stomp vs DRX

Great tourney run

still more trophies then Rb

localkoolkid [#21]

still more trophies then Rb

Rb beat them last 3 times they played
https://www.vlr.gg/247102/natus-vincere-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-winners-d
https://www.vlr.gg/130690/funplus-phoenix-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2022-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/130678/drx-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-2022-ubqf

ARDIIS?

reaper_rega08 [#20]

And your Best IGL got cooked by some T2 IGL in Redbull.

their best IGL is from emea. wdym?

americas is a minor region, no one wants to play there

So if they fail again, blame the brain dead team managers and coaches, not the players.

Hades_Loves_Rb [#22]

Rb beat them last 3 times they played
https://www.vlr.gg/247102/natus-vincere-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2023-group-stage-winners-d
https://www.vlr.gg/130690/funplus-phoenix-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2022-lr3
https://www.vlr.gg/130678/drx-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-2022-ubqf

and still has less trophies