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M80 Tweet Question

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#1
Nef0r0

Text version immediately cuz no X in Brazil afaik
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@M80gg
Our VCT Ascension run ends here.

Thank you for the many hours, dedication, and effort that was put in by our amazing players and coaching staff for the M80 VALORANT program.

Thank you to all the fans for your support throughout the entire season and for always showing love. 🖤
Might be my imperfect english, but that 2nd sentence sounds a bit like saying goodbye, or like questioning the entire program existing

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It’s possible, all the players are also hinting that this might have been the end, like Koala saying he will have to try and get to Tier 1 as a LFT.

M80 as an org might just not see enough return on investment to justify staying in the league. That or they won’t be keeping their players under contract and look to do like DarkZero and sign a team later in their year

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Tier 2 valorant is falling to pieces the only reason i watched ascension this year is bc of m80

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Nef0r0
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alex_lab [#2]

It’s possible, all the players are also hinting that this might have been the end, like Koala saying he will have to try and get to Tier 1 as a LFT.

M80 as an org might just not see enough return on investment to justify staying in the league. That or they won’t be keeping their players under contract and look to do like DarkZero and sign a team later in their year

would be sad to see yet another org leave the tier 2 scene. Out of the 8 stage 2 teams in NA
M80 - might be leaving
oxygen - died
Blinn - Collegiate
SaD - really really really small org
Fluffy - not a big org
DarkZero - already parted ways with their roster
TSM - likely staying
MxS - staying

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Nef0r0
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H3ENnZ [#3]

Tier 2 valorant is falling to pieces the only reason i watched ascension this year is bc of m80

question is if there even will be orgs at ascension in a few years

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Nef0r0 [#5]

question is if there even will be orgs at ascension in a few years

Hopefully more and more content creators will invest in tier 2 valorant (not saying that it will be a good thing but)

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H3ENnZ [#6]

Hopefully more and more content creators will invest in tier 2 valorant (not saying that it will be a good thing but)

I don't see anyone else coming tho. I still feel like it's a huge ass minus to work with

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Nef0r0 [#7]

I don't see anyone else coming tho. I still feel like it's a huge ass minus to work with

Idk i just dont think theres any reasons of CC investing at this point but its def considerable to say atleast

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H3ENnZ [#8]

Idk i just dont think theres any reasons of CC investing at this point but its def considerable to say atleast

I mean it isn't profitable imo, just fun to do as a source of content. I ve seen one guy in CS attempt a content creator org(not huge, but fairly decent), basically when they entered tier 2 they needed bookies to pay for 95% of the org.

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Nef0r0 [#9]

I mean it isn't profitable imo, just fun to do as a source of content. I ve seen one guy in CS attempt a content creator org(not huge, but fairly decent), basically when they entered tier 2 they needed bookies to pay for 95% of the org.

I mean MxS is pretty successful imo but they arent going anywhere with thei recent results

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Nef0r0 [#4]

would be sad to see yet another org leave the tier 2 scene. Out of the 8 stage 2 teams in NA
M80 - might be leaving
oxygen - died
Blinn - Collegiate
SaD - really really really small org
Fluffy - not a big org
DarkZero - already parted ways with their roster
TSM - likely staying
MxS - staying

Yeah, I definitely think Tier 2 will increasingly become more about collegiate as well as FA teams that end up getting signed going into ascension as opposed to being signed all year

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H3ENnZ [#10]

I mean MxS is pretty successful imo but they arent going anywhere with thei recent results

cuz Moist collabed with a real org, Shopify, who are quite big afaik

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alex_lab [#11]

Yeah, I definitely think Tier 2 will increasingly become more about collegiate as well as FA teams that end up getting signed going into ascension as opposed to being signed all year

I feel like it somewhat defeats the purpose of tier 2, no? just having orgs pick up teams for short term deals, if you make it, we finance you , if you don't, bye bye

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Nef0r0 [#13]

I feel like it somewhat defeats the purpose of tier 2, no? just having orgs pick up teams for short term deals, if you make it, we finance you , if you don't, bye bye

I agree, truthfully if riot insist in running Tier2, they need to increase their spending. But as it seems this is not gonna happen, they need to run the circuit through 3rd party organiser with tournaments formats leading into ascension, instead of a league that gives next to 0 prize money.

Idk if that if is possible, but is feels like tournament type events have higher viewership and 3rd party organizers might be willing to invest and give higher prize pools

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alex_lab [#14]

I agree, truthfully if riot insist in running Tier2, they need to increase their spending. But as it seems this is not gonna happen, they need to run the circuit through 3rd party organiser with tournaments formats leading into ascension, instead of a league that gives next to 0 prize money.

Idk if that if is possible, but is feels like tournament type events have higher viewership and 3rd party organizers might be willing to invest and give higher prize pools

I still feel like those TOs would want a bigger share of the revenue, hosting for a region is way smaller than hosting globally.

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Thanks for the text since we can't use Twitter

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Nef0r0 [#15]

I still feel like those TOs would want a bigger share of the revenue, hosting for a region is way smaller than hosting globally.

That’s true, but if riot keeps up the same investment AND other organizers join it might be enough viewership and prize money to make the investment worthwhile for orgs

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alex_lab [#17]

That’s true, but if riot keeps up the same investment AND other organizers join it might be enough viewership and prize money to make the investment worthwhile for orgs

I guess riot just wants everything controlled by them. Which might screw the entire tier 2 scene

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Nef0r0 [#18]

I guess riot just wants everything controlled by them. Which might screw the entire tier 2 scene

Yeah… Riot also really wants Valo to be a healthy esport so I do believe they are going to try and change something because if they don’t the whole tier 2 scene will just die out

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alex_lab [#19]

Yeah… Riot also really wants Valo to be a healthy esport so I do believe they are going to try and change something because if they don’t the whole tier 2 scene will just die out

Well they kinda have to act before it's too late

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H3ENnZ [#3]

Tier 2 valorant is falling to pieces the only reason i watched ascension this year is bc of m80

FUCK RIOT!

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