PCIFIC logistics

if they win ascension wouldnt like 3 out of 5 of them not be able to compete in VCT? what then? just rebuild?

What I am actually curious about is if they a decently big org or no. Not necessarily in terms of fans but in terms of money, they might have issue to relocate and rebuild if not

I'm assuming they'll have to rebuild, there's a ton of Turkish talent out there but I don't know how rich the org is

This is a serious loophole Riot might have to think about. And to be frank I don't see any option here.

PS : Edit, maybe the solution is to hope that the good young player got hire by academy so team that can play in ascension are only 18+

charleser [#3]

I'm assuming they'll have to rebuild, there's a ton of Turkish talent out there but I don't know how rich the org is

they came from premier they dont have an org

Mortadelo [#2]

What I am actually curious about is if they a decently big org or no. Not necessarily in terms of fans but in terms of money, they might have issue to relocate and rebuild if not

theyre not. they got nearly zero clout, and their rosters on other games are on around tier2-3 level

n1cf [#6]

theyre not. they got nearly zero clout, and their rosters on other games are on around tier2-3 level

Even that’s high, their r6s roster is tier 5 I think and cs is like tier 3-4

J7z [#7]

Even that’s high, their r6s roster is tier 5 I think and cs is like tier 3-4

yeah i mightve rated them bit higher

Pacific are not a big org they were the smallest org in Turkish league tbf

n1cf [#6]

theyre not. they got nearly zero clout, and their rosters on other games are on around tier2-3 level

Yeah that's what I fear, they come from Premier right?

According to UCAM's CEO, ascending requires around 2Mill in investment. I genuinely doubt they manage to pull that off. We might have a The Guard situation here, but 10x more complicated

Mortadelo [#10]

Yeah that's what I fear, they come from Premier right?

According to UCAM's CEO, ascending requires around 2Mill in investment. I genuinely doubt they manage to pull that off. We might have a The Guard situation here, but 10x more complicated

SUP or FF could be the G2 for PCIFIC from Turkey, but I'd guess there would be a lot of other EU orgs compete to get the roster for getting into Tier 1

n1cf [#11]

SUP or FF could be the G2 for PCIFIC from Turkey, but I'd guess there would be a lot of other EU orgs compete to get the roster for getting into Tier 1

I honestly think, if that happens Riot would just do an 11 team league like they tried to do with The Guard. And next year Ascend since that is already accounted for

Think about it, if you have to only sign Rose and Celasun that's kinda literally like just straight up buying the spot, don't even have to keep the core

n1cf [#11]

SUP or FF could be the G2 for PCIFIC from Turkey, but I'd guess there would be a lot of other EU orgs compete to get the roster for getting into Tier 1

SUP houseda oynamıslardı macları (SUP-Mertens çakallık videosu)

Mortadelo [#12]

I honestly think, if that happens Riot would just do an 11 team league like they tried to do with The Guard. And next year Ascend since that is already accounted for

Think about it, if you have to only sign Rose and Celasun that's kinda literally like just straight up buying the spot, don't even have to keep the core

PCF and SUP are so close, they even played their games in SUP house, but like you said they can have some "The Guard" situation.

But i hope Riot will allow them to play

Gutssz [#13]

SUP houseda oynamıslardı macları (SUP-Mertens çakallık videosu)

lec slotu, vct falan derken paparanın kasayı bosalttılar amq paparacard basvurusunu yaptık bile

n1cf [#15]

lec slotu, vct falan derken paparanın kasayı bosalttılar amq paparacard basvurusunu yaptık bile

PCF reddedilirse SUP net partner bu arada başka takım yok verecekleri mk (gönlüm bir yandan okey olur bi yandan olmaz)

LEC çok zor mk ya Arap orglar çok yüksek teklif yapıyor

Gutssz [#16]

PCF reddedilirse SUP net partner bu arada başka takım yok verecekleri mk (gönlüm bir yandan okey olur bi yandan olmaz)

LEC çok zor mk ya Arap orglar çok yüksek teklif yapıyor

eu picleri comak sokmaya calısır da bizim oglanlar izin vermez ya

n1cf [#17]

eu picleri comak sokmaya calısır da bizim oglanlar izin vermez ya

olm PCF reddedilip gidip EU orguna verirlerse sen o zaman gör karmaşayı, zorla başka Türk takımına verdirtir bizimkiler dedıgın gıbı

Gutssz [#14]

PCF and SUP are so close, they even played their games in SUP house, but like you said they can have some "The Guard" situation.

But i hope Riot will allow them to play

I think it’s more up to PCFIC. They might simply not have the money for the logistics

Mortadelo [#19]

I think it’s more up to PCFIC. They might simply not have the money for the logistics

yeah i know, i hope Riot will approve their championship (if they win). If they cancel, they can't give it to EU org right? that would be joke decision

Who is still under 18 in the team?

Blueberry77 [#21]

Who is still under 18 in the team?

Comeback
Lar0k
Loita

None of them turn 18 until mid to late 2025

n1cf [#6]

theyre not. they got nearly zero clout, and their rosters on other games are on around tier2-3 level

they give the spot eternal fire or supermassive

Them winning would be bad for turkey

Turkey already have 2 teams and they struggle to make either of them relevant on the international stage.

adding another team will only water down the talent in the region.

between their best players playing for other orgs and adding a new team to throttle the pipeline of talent, i see it harder for them to create a "Superteam"

and superteams are the only thing that do well at international events

its part of the reason BR is struggling now. they have all their talent split into 3 teams

Gutssz [#20]

yeah i know, i hope Riot will approve their championship (if they win). If they cancel, they can't give it to EU org right? that would be joke decision

They can def give it to an EU org if that's who Rose and Celasun choose. But I think it's way more likely that simply no one ascends

Mortadelo [#25]

They can def give it to an EU org if that's who Rose and Celasun choose. But I think it's way more likely that simply no one ascends

SUP can't miss this chance, they are already so close with PCF and also they made a bid for LEC, they need this if Riot refuse PCF

Gutssz [#26]

SUP can't miss this chance, they are already so close with PCF and also they made a bid for LEC, they need this if Riot refuse PCF

We'll see Ig, because I think there's a very solid chance they do win

Mortadelo [#27]

We'll see Ig, because I think there's a very solid chance they do win

I think what I said is unlikely, but it would be ridiculous to keep the league with 11 teams right? i mean some 5v6 groups are ridiculously bad imo

I remember seeing somewhere that a pcific player typed a message saying they might have a chance to play in EMEA

Gutssz [#28]

I think what I said is unlikely, but it would be ridiculous to keep the league with 11 teams right? i mean some 5v6 groups are ridiculously bad imo

That was their original solution for The Guard and they only changed it after the community complained. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to go back to that solution

Mortadelo [#30]

That was their original solution for The Guard and they only changed it after the community complained. I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to go back to that solution

Turkish community would be insane if they refuse PCF, PCF or another Turkish team would take the slot i bet

Gutssz [#31]

Turkish community would be insane if they refuse PCF, PCF or another Turkish team would take the slot i bet

You're not understanding what I mean. I'm not talking about Riot refusing them, I'm talking about PCF sim ply not having the money to afford it. UCAM CEO said it costs around 2 Mill

_amBrian [#22]

Comeback
Lar0k
Loita

None of them turn 18 until mid to late 2025

Are u kidding me without larok and comeback the team will be trash

Mortadelo [#32]

You're not understanding what I mean. I'm not talking about Riot refusing them, I'm talking about PCF sim ply not having the money to afford it. UCAM CEO said it costs around 2 Mill

okay got it, yeah they can't and if 2 Mill is true then it's impossible for them imo

Gutssz [#34]

okay got it, yeah they can't and if 2 Mill is true then it's impossible for them imo

He says that's what he estimates the cost is of all the logistics of opening a new company in Germany, opening offices, German taxes, salaries etc. Idk we'll just have to see

number1_Demon1_fan [#29]

I remember seeing somewhere that a pcific player typed a message saying they might have a chance to play in EMEA

I mean the concern is that half their players wouldnt be able to compete

Man if PCFIC win EMEA is cooked. They are a shit org unfortunately. Americas ascension also look so up in the air. M80 can be beaten for sure, althought they are 4-0 right now. What happens if these small orgs ascend? I mean it would not be good for ascension.

i think this team is really good and the young players look amazing but for the sake of logistics i REALLY hope they dont win today

BoF7ooM [#37]

Man if PCFIC win EMEA is cooked. They are a shit org unfortunately. Americas ascension also look so up in the air. M80 can be beaten for sure, althought they are 4-0 right now. What happens if these small orgs ascend? I mean it would not be good for ascension.

I mean being a small org is whatever, Riot have already shown they're willing to let a more capable org come in and pick up the players.

My concern with PCIFIC is that not only are they small, 3 out of 5 wont be able to compete. I feel like thats gonna create big problems unless Riot already has a backup plan in mind besides playing with 11 teams next year.