Something i think is pretty cool is that the undisputed top 5 duelists are all from different regions.
Aspas (SA)
T3xture (APAC)
Zekken (NA)
Kangkang (CN)
Derke (EU)
What a great esport we got
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Yuh_aye [#2]I don't care what the stats say I still think Sayf is the best emea duelist
derke is arguably top 2 duelist since 2021 among every region, what argument sayf even has to challenge the best emea duelist spot? bro has never performed internationaly like he does regionally anyways.
fnaticENJOYER [#3]derke is arguably top 2 duelist since 2021 among every region, what argument sayf even has to challenge the best emea duelist spot? bro has never performed internationaly like he does regionally anyways.
wrong, hes the worst duelist on this list maybe hes a bit better than aspas
BulkyLettuce [#4]wrong, hes the worst duelist on this list maybe hes a bit better than aspas
istg its 11 am here, i dont want to ruin my mental for whole day and argue with you rn
fnaticENJOYER [#5]istg its 11 am here, i dont want to ruin my mental for whole day and argue with you rn
Good call
fnaticENJOYER [#5]istg its 11 am here, i dont want to ruin my mental for whole day and argue with you rn
he employs j0ngg as a duelist, dont listen to him
fnaticENJOYER [#5]istg its 11 am here, i dont want to ruin my mental for whole day and argue with you rn
look at your name brother, you are looking through rose colored glasses
idkmanwth [#7]he employs j0ngg as a duelist, dont listen to him
theres a reason why derke got dropped and is a free agent now
BulkyLettuce [#12]theres a reason why derke got dropped and is a free agent now
there's a reason why derke was in top 2 of stats at champs and jinggg went -10 and -10
fnaticENJOYER [#3]derke is arguably top 2 duelist since 2021 among every region, what argument sayf even has to challenge the best emea duelist spot? bro has never performed internationaly like he does regionally anyways.
i swear people who type this shit only stare at stat sheets and don't even watch the games. Top 2 duelist every year? You're telling me he was better than Zekken Texture Kangkang and Aspas this year?
Lemme guess:
"2nd best rated player at champs"
"highest acs at shanghai"
I guess primmie must've been a top 3 player in the world then
Theres 3 duelists that are currently Meta: Jett Neon Raze
Sayf arguably individually better on all 3
BulkyLettuce [#12]theres a reason why derke got dropped and is a free agent now
there's a reason jingg has zero (0) trophies
fnaticENJOYER [#3]derke is arguably top 2 duelist since 2021 among every region, what argument sayf even has to challenge the best emea duelist spot? bro has never performed internationaly like he does regionally anyways.
derke was NEVER a top 2 duelist over a year, you can argue he was a top 2 duelist after lock in and that's about it, 2022? definitely not. 2023? definitely not. 2024? definitely not. 2021? KKKKKKKKKKK
uwukitten [#17]derke was NEVER a top 2 duelist over a year, you can argue he was a top 2 duelist after lock in and that's about it, 2022? definitely not. 2023? definitely not. 2024? definitely not. 2021? KKKKKKKKKKK
for real, its like the only thing they account for is who has the highest number when they hit 'stats'
2021: Tenz and Cned clear
2022: Yay Aspas and Ardiss clear
2023: Derke probably top 2 sometime this year, Demon1 and Aspas probably clear by the end
2024 : Kangkang Zekken Texture and Aspas clear
uwukitten [#16]there's a reason jingg has zero (0) trophies
theres also a reason why jinggg has gotten further placements in champions while playing less years
FNC and derke highest placement at champs: 4th
PRX and jinggg highest placement at champs: 2nd
BulkyLettuce [#19]theres also a reason why jinggg has gotten further placements in champions while playing less years
FNC and derke highest placement at champs: 4th
PRX and jinggg highest placement at champs: 2nd
cope or bait or retardation or all three?
uwukitten [#21]cope or bait or retardation or all three?
im just stating a fact
jinggg has had higher placements in the most important world championship tourney in valorant
uwukitten [#17]derke was NEVER a top 2 duelist over a year, you can argue he was a top 2 duelist after lock in and that's about it, 2022? definitely not. 2023? definitely not. 2024? definitely not. 2021? KKKKKKKKKKK
how u guys watched kangkang before is like today's watching derke.He's definitely good but just not qualified.That's it..
BulkyLettuce [#22]im just stating a fact
jinggg has had higher placements in the most important world championship tourney in valorant
you know what else is a fact? derke 2 trophies j0ngg 0
uwukitten [#26]you know what else is a fact? derke 2 trophies j0ngg 0
im talking about champions, the most important tourney of the year and how derke highest placement in the world championship was only 4th!
BulkyLettuce [#27]im talking about champions, the most important tourney of the year and how derke highest placement in the world championship was only 4th!
derke's average placement in champs: 5.4
jingg's average placement in champs: 7.7
it's clear by their placement in the most important tournament of each year who the better player is, hope this helps!
uwukitten [#30]derke's average placement in champs: 5.4
jingg's average placement in champs: 7.7it's clear by their placement in the most important tournament of each year who the better player is, hope this helps!
it seems you dont know how averages work because of the small sample size, the highest placement is all that matters
"Sample size doesn't guarantee that the data would have a normal distribution. However, if the sample is “big enough” (usually taken to mean at least 30, although more is better), then the sample means and standard deviations will be normally distributed around the true (population) mean and standard deviation."
your sample size is too small to take an actual average
derke has never been to the grand finals of a the world championship EVER which is all that matters, hope this helps!
BulkyLettuce [#31]it seems you dont know how averages work because of the small sample size, the highest placement is all that matters
"Sample size doesn't guarantee that the data would have a normal distribution. However, if the sample is “big enough” (usually taken to mean at least 30, although more is better), then the sample means and standard deviations will be normally distributed around the true (population) mean and standard deviation."
your sample size is too small to take an actual average
derke has never been to the grand finals of a the world championship EVER which is all that matters, hope this helps!
it seems to me that you have a misconception about sample sizes! the necessary sample size to arrive at a conclusion will vary from one investigation to another, as it is entirely relative. in the case of an ever-changing industry like esports where careers are short, 3-4 years is a significant period of time which is more than sufficient to reach a conclusion.
judging by how jingg was grouped in 2/3 of the champs he attended, we can safely arrive at the conclusion that he is a mediocre player who cannot perform when it matters.
in fact, based on his 2024 performance, it seems that he is nearing retirement so there is little more samples that can be gathered in the future.
on the other hand, derke has been grouped 0/4 times.
additionally, a quick glance at statistics shows that the player jingg CANNOT be seen in the top 10 of any global tournament, this is truly peculiar. I wonder why?
torsion [#33]Best duelist rivalry for each year
2021 - cNed vs tenz
2022 - aspas vs yay
2023 - demon1 vs something
2024 - zmjjkk vs texture
Texture owns cancan there's no debate there, it's zekken vs texture that's actually interesting
SuperRoss [#29]The disrespect to cned is crazy
it would be disrespectful to the good duelists to be even compared to this bum
BulkyLettuce [#4]wrong, hes the worst duelist on this list maybe hes a bit better than aspas
worst take i have seen yet lol. Not just stats but actual impact and consistancy are things he has. you're an idiot
Skoepdoep2 [#38]worst take i have seen yet lol. Not just stats but actual impact and consistancy are things he has. you're an idiot
flair + stars
BulkyLettuce [#40]flair + stars
i mean it's my second account lol, i forgot the login shit for the first.
Doesn't take away you're braindead, Derke 100% best duelist EU and top 3 world.
Yuh_aye [#15]i swear people who type this shit only stare at stat sheets and don't even watch the games. Top 2 duelist every year? You're telling me he was better than Zekken Texture Kangkang and Aspas this year?
Lemme guess:
"2nd best rated player at champs"
"highest acs at shanghai"
I guess primmie must've been a top 3 player in the world thenTheres 3 duelists that are currently Meta: Jett Neon Raze
Sayf arguably individually better on all 3
since 2021 would imply that he's not looking at 2021, 22, 23 individually but as a whole. Meaning since 2021 he has been a top 2 duelist because of his stats, consistancy, impact and game sense.
He wasnt as great this year as the previous 2 but over all 4 years he is definitely top 2. Zekken wasnt even well known as one of the best before last year. KangKang didn't achieve much internationally until this year but he was individually good. Texture also only really became one of the best in recent times.
SuperRoss [#34]Texture owns cancan there's no debate there, it's zekken vs texture that's actually interesting
no,we have an object of reference,
https://www.vlr.gg/378829/edward-gaming-vs-team-heretics-valorant-champions-2024-gf
https://www.vlr.gg/348476/gen-g-vs-team-heretics-champions-tour-2024-masters-shanghai-gf
kangkang drop 111 from TH,texture drop 85,so there no debate is texture vs kangkang.
reaper_rega08 [#44]South America? really? Only Americas lmao. And its Aspas. Then even EMEA is both EU and CIS region.
diff region of the world
Yuh_aye [#15]i swear people who type this shit only stare at stat sheets and don't even watch the games. Top 2 duelist every year? You're telling me he was better than Zekken Texture Kangkang and Aspas this year?
Lemme guess:
"2nd best rated player at champs"
"highest acs at shanghai"
I guess primmie must've been a top 3 player in the world thenTheres 3 duelists that are currently Meta: Jett Neon Raze
Sayf arguably individually better on all 3
primmie is fresh out the womb
Derke has been clicking heads since Valorant's release
think before you speak
Upstander123 [#13]Honestly, there are arguments to be made for other players being top 5 as well right now imo, but yeah I agree that it's very healthy for every region to be strong internationally.
I genuinely don't think any other Duelist comes close to these five in terms of:
-raw skill
-trophies and achievements
-longevity and consistency.
Yuh_aye [#15]i swear people who type this shit only stare at stat sheets and don't even watch the games. Top 2 duelist every year? You're telling me he was better than Zekken Texture Kangkang and Aspas this year?
Lemme guess:
"2nd best rated player at champs"
"highest acs at shanghai"
I guess primmie must've been a top 3 player in the world thenTheres 3 duelists that are currently Meta: Jett Neon Raze
Sayf arguably individually better on all 3
classic NA overrating zekken, Derke hard clears zekken
Gutwi [#53]classic NA overrating zekken, Derke hard clears zekken
Derke not good enough to be the best player on a trophy winning team
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