I just realized that G2/NRG needs a duelist now that Aspas will leave LEV just imagine Verno+Aspas in NRG.
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Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.
S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
fym s0m is a great player
Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
lol
Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
why are we talking like s0m isn’t good
Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
0/8
shrike- [#5]why are we talking like s0m isn’t good
because he isn't.
I'm not saying he's bad though, but when you're thinking a clutch and goated smoker you don't think of him.
Keep it real dude.
Vyantic [#7]because he isn't.
I'm not saying he's bad though, but when you're thinking a clutch and goated smoker you don't think of him.
Keep it real dude.
“because he isn’t good”
“i’m not saying he’s bad”
make it make sense
shrike- [#8]“because he isn’t good”
“i’m not saying he’s bad”make it make sense
Brother, s0m is not on the top list of smokers or even players to consider to win something.
Why are you dealing with extremes.
If a player isn't good then he's bad, he's a pretty average smoker, that's it.
Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
fns take is fine. the take on s0m is just hating.
Vyantic [#9]Brother, s0m is not on the top list of smokers or even players to consider to win something.
Why are you dealing with extremes.
If a player isn't good then he's bad, he's a pretty average smoker, that's it.
s0m has consistently been nrg’s best player since he became a controller
not saying he’s the best in the world, but to say he isn’t good is just a lie lol
this weird narrative that he’s average is very clearly bait though, that or you don’t watch nrg. probably both
Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
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Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
what the fuck did I just read
Vyantic [#7]because he isn't.
I'm not saying he's bad though, but when you're thinking a clutch and goated smoker you don't think of him.
Keep it real dude.
top 10 in americas 2023
top 10 in split 2 americas 2024
top 10 in lock in (min 150 rounds)
top 10 in masters tokyo (even higher if you take 150 rounds as minimum)
but hey, vyantic thinks he's not a good controller so what can we say 😔
shrike- [#11]s0m has consistently been nrg’s best player since he became a controller
not saying he’s the best in the world, but to say he isn’t good is just a lie lol
this weird narrative that he’s average is very clearly bait though, that or you don’t watch nrg. probably both
Okay, i will give you reason on the part that saying he's not good it's a lie, i have no problem acknowledging that.
My point comes from the feeling that s0m get's the chance just because FNS wants to play with him, the best NRG we saw (if we want to include when they were Optic) the place was taken by Marved, and for me it's a bit unfair that if you sign FNS then you have to sign s0m, makes me feel like the guy doesn't deserve the spot just because of him but because FNS wants it like that.
He only got another chance at Tier 1 because FNS wanted to come back, i don't remember any team considering him while FNS was orgless as well.
uwukitten [#14]top 10 in americas 2023
top 10 in split 2 americas 2024
top 10 in lock in (min 150 rounds)
top 10 in masters tokyo (even higher if you take 150 rounds as minimum)but hey, vyantic thinks he's not a good controller so what can we say 😔
Sorry for having an opinion that i would pick other smokers besides s0m.
It's not like i'm starting a fucking thread hating on s0m lmao.
Vyantic [#15]Okay, i will give you reason on the part that saying he's not good it's a lie, i have no problem acknowledging that.
My point comes from the feeling that s0m get's the chance just because FNS wants to play with him, the best NRG we saw (if we want to include when they were Optic) the place was taken by Marved, and for me it's a bit unfair that if you sign FNS then you have to sign s0m, makes me feel like the guy doesn't deserve the spot just because of him but because FNS wants it like that.
He only got another chance at Tier 1 because FNS wanted to come back, i don't remember any team considering him while FNS was orgless as well.
the fact that you think the best controller of 2023 is only getting a spot because of FNS is wild and bringing up the best version of a team from 2 years ago 😹😹😹should they drop ethan for victor too?
Vyantic [#15]Okay, i will give you reason on the part that saying he's not good it's a lie, i have no problem acknowledging that.
My point comes from the feeling that s0m get's the chance just because FNS wants to play with him, the best NRG we saw (if we want to include when they were Optic) the place was taken by Marved, and for me it's a bit unfair that if you sign FNS then you have to sign s0m, makes me feel like the guy doesn't deserve the spot just because of him but because FNS wants it like that.
He only got another chance at Tier 1 because FNS wanted to come back, i don't remember any team considering him while FNS was orgless as well.
the s0m from 2022 and the s0m of 2023 were completely different bro what LOL? 2022 s0m legit was flexing between 3 roles and 2023 he was ONLY controller and he showed how good he was, u legit dont know ball shut up
Vyantic [#15]Okay, i will give you reason on the part that saying he's not good it's a lie, i have no problem acknowledging that.
My point comes from the feeling that s0m get's the chance just because FNS wants to play with him, the best NRG we saw (if we want to include when they were Optic) the place was taken by Marved, and for me it's a bit unfair that if you sign FNS then you have to sign s0m, makes me feel like the guy doesn't deserve the spot just because of him but because FNS wants it like that.
He only got another chance at Tier 1 because FNS wanted to come back, i don't remember any team considering him while FNS was orgless as well.
funny thing is i can't tell if this is bait or not 😹😹
i don't remember any team considering him while FNS was orgless as well.
Vyantic [#2]Going from Kinggg and Mazino to S0m and FNS.
That's a downgrade.
FNS is an impressive IGL and he already showed himself as such, there's no doubt in that.
But teams have stepped up so much this last year that you can't just rely on good igling, the firepower has to be there and i don't think FNS has it.S0m for me, it's just a streamer that you're stuck with if you sign FNS, he comes with the package which it's awful.
honestly not even a bad take, you really do need fragging igls nowadays, times have changed
don't know if I can agree on your s0m take but I do understand it for sure, he didn't have any international appearances before joining FNS in 2023, however I do think he's a far greater player now than he was in 2021/22
I would personally have kingg and s0m instead of switching both out but thats just me, not giving roles much thought
Vyantic [#15]Okay, i will give you reason on the part that saying he's not good it's a lie, i have no problem acknowledging that.
My point comes from the feeling that s0m get's the chance just because FNS wants to play with him, the best NRG we saw (if we want to include when they were Optic) the place was taken by Marved, and for me it's a bit unfair that if you sign FNS then you have to sign s0m, makes me feel like the guy doesn't deserve the spot just because of him but because FNS wants it like that.
He only got another chance at Tier 1 because FNS wanted to come back, i don't remember any team considering him while FNS was orgless as well.
why do u think fns wants him over marved then?
Aayan [#25]if NA win 3/3 events I'll put on a USA flag for all of the 2026 season
deal, cned fan, add him to the list!
Vyantic [#15]Okay, i will give you reason on the part that saying he's not good it's a lie, i have no problem acknowledging that.
My point comes from the feeling that s0m get's the chance just because FNS wants to play with him, the best NRG we saw (if we want to include when they were Optic) the place was taken by Marved, and for me it's a bit unfair that if you sign FNS then you have to sign s0m, makes me feel like the guy doesn't deserve the spot just because of him but because FNS wants it like that.
He only got another chance at Tier 1 because FNS wanted to come back, i don't remember any team considering him while FNS was orgless as well.
He only got another chance at Tier 1 because FNS wanted to come back
What are you saying? s0m was one of the best players in NA/Americas for the entirety of 2023. To say he wouldn't get another chance in Tier 1 after having a great performance last year is pure disrespect.
DuD5K1S [#26]deal, cned fan, add him to the list!
we don't do flair/flags because
- its not that important
- would clog up the list
number2_cNed_fan [#28]we don't do flair/flags because
- its not that important
- would clog up the list
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