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Vyse is more broken than we think

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kanyefan4238173
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not gonna listen to tmv but i think shes good

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michaelisupset
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not gonna listen to tmv but i think shes alright

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sensucks
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TMV is an actual idiot if he didn't initial think that agent is completely busted. She will literally warp the playstyle of duelists. It's Cypher on crack cocaine

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sideshowsbaldhead
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already watched the tmv video and i think shes good

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GambleNats
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listened to tmv, but even before that I thought she would be atleast A tier agent

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nihso
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I think she's gonna be a balanced Sentinel. The flash is easy to break and easy to dodge. The slow is pretty good and the wall can be baited by a jump peek. Ult is good from retake and site hits tho. Overall I'd give her a 8/10.

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AlexSMTx
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sensucks [#4]

TMV is an actual idiot if he didn't initial think that agent is completely busted. She will literally warp the playstyle of duelists. It's Cypher on crack cocaine

Idk how comparable she is to Cypher though, she has the wall thing which is nice but no other skill of hers gives information. All Cypher skills give info except the cage.

I'm just saying while she looks good, I wouldn't want her as my only Sentinel. I feel like one would feel very lacking in terms of info with just a single wall that would still allow a lurker to walk past it.

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sensucks
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AlexSMTx [#8]

Idk how comparable she is to Cypher though, she has the wall thing which is nice but no other skill of hers gives information. All Cypher skills give info except the cage.

I'm just saying while she looks good, I wouldn't want her as my only Sentinel. I feel like one would feel very lacking in terms of info with just a single wall that would still allow a lurker to walk past it.

the "wall thing" is the strongest non-ultimate ability in the game. It can single handedly isolate duelists on an engage from their own team, thats why its Cypher 2.0. wait for the nerfs to come out xd

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AlexSMTx
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sensucks [#9]

the "wall thing" is the strongest non-ultimate ability in the game. It can single handedly isolate duelists on an engage from their own team, thats why its Cypher 2.0. wait for the nerfs to come out xd

No one's debating that, I'm just saying she wouldn't cover the same role Cypher has which is give info. She will probably be like Sage, in the sense that even though she is classified as a Sentinel you wouldn't pick her for the information part, but rather other uses

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zebraman999
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sensucks [#9]

the "wall thing" is the strongest non-ultimate ability in the game. It can single handedly isolate duelists on an engage from their own team, thats why its Cypher 2.0. wait for the nerfs to come out xd

this has to be a joke take. the wall lasts for 5 seconds not to mention the rest of her kit is mediocre at best

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kapteN
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AlexSMTx [#8]

Idk how comparable she is to Cypher though, she has the wall thing which is nice but no other skill of hers gives information. All Cypher skills give info except the cage.

I'm just saying while she looks good, I wouldn't want her as my only Sentinel. I feel like one would feel very lacking in terms of info with just a single wall that would still allow a lurker to walk past it.

all abilities of vyse give info too

flash lets you know someone is flashed, like skye (different sound and there's a voiceline)

Walk through her trap thing and it makes a sound

Wall lets you know someone is there or through

not sure about ult

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