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Teams that need to start over

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#1
H3ENnZ

When i say start over it means rework the roster completely/ center a player to rebuild the roster

KOI
TYLOO
FPX
TLN
GX
C9
MIBR
Idk all that i can think of

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Laundry
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GE, DFM

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sideshowsbaldhead
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fpx are chokers but saying blow up the roster is unhinged

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H3ENnZ
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sideshowsbaldhead [#3]

fpx are chokers but saying blow up the roster is unhinged

They are never getting anywhere with their current roster. Replace Lysoar Life/Autumn and AAYYY

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OkOkay
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C9 just need someone who shoots who isnt oxy

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cheeseborger
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H3ENnZ [#4]

They are never getting anywhere with their current roster. Replace Lysoar Life/Autumn and AAYYY

aaayyy the goat fr

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Laundry
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H3ENnZ [#4]

They are never getting anywhere with their current roster. Replace Lysoar Life/Autumn and AAYYY

wdym they're not getting anywhere? they got to every international this year

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H3ENnZ
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Laundry [#7]

wdym they're not getting anywhere? they got to every international this year

Just a couple of changes? I listed more than half of their roster lmao
They did get to every LAN this year grabbing only one win, if they dont fix Life they are not going to get better. Lysoars agent pool is shit. Autumn cant play duelist and have to constant flex on everyone. AAYYYs util not good for an initiator even tho he is one of the best aimers in CN. Life is not catching up with his team

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H3ENnZ [#8]

Just a couple of changes? I listed more than half of their roster lmao
They did get to every LAN this year grabbing only one win, if they dont fix Life they are not going to get better. Lysoars agent pool is shit. Autumn cant play duelist and have to constant flex on everyone. AAYYYs util not good for an initiator even tho he is one of the best aimers in CN. Life is not catching up with his team

I misread the changes part, so i edited that out but I think u missed it before I did.
FPX have been chokers on the international stage, but that doesn't mean their regional accomplishments mean nothing now, especially considering how underwhelming china was on the international stage this year. I agree roster changes could help, but choosing to overhaul more than half the roster instead of working on developing players, especially for a top team in the region just seems absurd.

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H3ENnZ
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Laundry [#9]

I misread the changes part, so i edited that out but I think u missed it before I did.
FPX have been chokers on the international stage, but that doesn't mean their regional accomplishments mean nothing now, especially considering how underwhelming china was on the international stage this year. I agree roster changes could help, but choosing to overhaul more than half the roster instead of working on developing players, especially for a top team in the region just seems absurd.

They need to change their system. Theyve been studying new comps after one and another. Their lotus comp shows that, no duelist and putting life on viper is criminal. They narrowly lost to TH on lotus in OT and they kept trying things that just aint working. The whole system is bad after they changed Life to an entry fragger from a team player

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FAVOURR
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definitely Team Liquid

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Laundry
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H3ENnZ [#10]

They need to change their system. Theyve been studying new comps after one and another. Their lotus comp shows that, no duelist and putting life on viper is criminal. They narrowly lost to TH on lotus in OT and they kept trying things that just aint working. The whole system is bad after they changed Life to an entry fragger from a team player

I agree absolutely, but that could be fixed with a change in management coaching staff instead of a roster rebuild

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H3ENnZ
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Laundry [#12]

I agree absolutely, but that could be fixed with a change in management coaching staff instead of a roster rebuild

Fair enough

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kanyefan4238173
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koi could keep 3 of their players and be good

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C0co
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fpx on this list is wild. let the newer talent develop

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Ayush__
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I don’t know why people hate on Talon lmfao atleast pay attention the team HAD A VERY successful year from where they were in the first year of franchising their macro is better than most pacific teams and they just need time to build some better comms bc of language and to improve upon fundamentals to close out advantageous situations

A team that shouldn’t even had made champs almost beating lev they sold bind so hard isn’t a team that needs changes they’ve also had literally no time with primmie

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mibr looked good towards the end i dont think they should rebuild
talon has no reason to rebuild they literally made champs while changing the roster every 5 weeks this latest roster looks nice just needs some more coaching
fpx made all 3 lans and have only lost to teams that have either won or went on deep runs

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C0co [#15]

fpx on this list is wild. let the newer talent develop

no,haodong mention that fpx will rebuild next year,but no other source to get more information.

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Prancer [#17]

mibr looked good towards the end i dont think they should rebuild
talon has no reason to rebuild they literally made champs while changing the roster every 5 weeks this latest roster looks nice just needs some more coaching
fpx made all 3 lans and have only lost to teams that have either won or went on deep runs

FPX is dogshit they don't even know what they're playing.
Life looks like he's playing Viper for the first time, Berlin with his political drama, lysoar is just dogshit all the time, ayyy keeps heating up drama and fuck up FPX's reputation with Berlin, the only one who's actually gaming is Autumn and he's a foreign player. FPX really needs to regroup, at least fuck the coaches and play normal valorant with Life playing a normal duelist like Jett or Raze or Neon instead of Yoru. Also Berlin is not making it to the next year with his shitty political drama.

#20
Denjisideals
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GE, DFM, BLEED, ZETA (?),

#21
kaibe8
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DFM rebuild around meiy, he is the only thing that works for them

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SomeoneLikeU
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Don’t worry about C9, they are getting Verno, Skuba, and net along with Runi and oxy

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Prancer
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silver5 [#19]

FPX is dogshit they don't even know what they're playing.
Life looks like he's playing Viper for the first time, Berlin with his political drama, lysoar is just dogshit all the time, ayyy keeps heating up drama and fuck up FPX's reputation with Berlin, the only one who's actually gaming is Autumn and he's a foreign player. FPX really needs to regroup, at least fuck the coaches and play normal valorant with Life playing a normal duelist like Jett or Raze or Neon instead of Yoru. Also Berlin is not making it to the next year with his shitty political drama.

Berlin was literally apolitical, he refused to talk about the subject

You obviously have some sort of bias so I'm not going to dig deep into what you said

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silver5
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Prancer [#23]

Berlin was literally apolitical, he refused to talk about the subject

You obviously have some sort of bias so I'm not going to dig deep into what you said

no i really dont care about politics, but i use chinese apps and the chinese val fans are shitting on berlin, its a big drama and adding that onto ayyy's controversial speech in FPX's documentary didnt help their reputation

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