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VCT best recon initators

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kalayav_n

list their weakness's, theyre strong counter parts and rate them out of 10.

c0m:

9.5/10

one of the best recon initiators in the game, the lotus game was insane when he threw that eye after TH's omen blind retake.

PROS: SOVA ULT, insane clutches, shows up in big games, insane util setups

CONS: not flashy, aim abit "average"(not flashy or insane flicks),

Flexibility: 5/10 mostly plays initator(recon) and has played viper before.

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He's also played Cypher, I think

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Froakie14
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GMB Chronicle is up there too no?

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kalayav_n
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Froakie14 [#3]

GMB Chronicle is up there too no?

I only listed one in no particular order, ofc chron is up there

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kalayav_n
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cloudberry [#2]

He's also played Cypher, I think

Yeah but only for a few games, hes been playing viper since last year occasionally

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the only flashy initiator i can think of is leo tbh lol

chronicle when he’s feeling is fucking insane so i have to include him with leo too

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He can make the case for best sova itw at the moment. I will say though that I do think c0m needs to learn how to play more agents at a high level next year regardless of whether lev win this tourney or not. Cause right now all he has is a cracked sova and pretty decent fade.

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catNmouse [#6]

the only flashy initiator i can think of is leo tbh lol

chronicle when he’s feeling is fucking insane so i have to include him with leo too

yah not much flashy initators, maybe forsaken?

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AltonBu02 [#7]

He can make the case for best sova itw at the moment. I will say though that I do think c0m needs to learn how to play more agents at a high level next year regardless of whether lev win this tourney or not. Cause right now all he has is a cracked sova and pretty decent fade.

skye? also hes a recon initator all he needs to know is the 3 basic agents skye fade and sova lol

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Shao

8/10

Pros - Insane aim, clutch and consistent asf
Cons - Support util is not the best and relies mostly on his mechanics in most situations

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Chronicle:

10/10

His sova is actually genuinely very impressive, which is not surprising considering it’s his best and most played agent, the darts he were throwing in their sunset games gave so much value, he also plays breach, skye and kayo and he’s no slouch on those either

PROS: Immaculate initiator utility usage, willing to play any agent for the team and fill in that role if needed, can go berserk at times like the game vs G2 two days ago

CONS: When the team is struggling like really hard (no come backs and shit) he becomes the biggest liability and drops stinkers in those situations, not the best aimer

Flexibility: 8/10 (can play sage, viper, cypher, omen, brimstone, hell even raze since he played it vs loud at lock in)

still love c0m tho hes goated, chronicle just came to mind when i saw this thread

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spe4rch [#10]

Shao

8/10

Pros - Insane aim, clutch and consistent asf
Cons - Support util is not the best and relies mostly on his mechanics in most situations

oo my goat shao, i loved watching him in NAVI. i feel him on controller is much better tbh but yeah hes one of the best ini's

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kalayav_n [#9]

skye? also hes a recon initator all he needs to know is the 3 basic agents skye fade and sova lol

I mean he can play it, but it's been a while since he has. My main point is that his sova is super cracked, but he lacks the same impact on other agents and I think it would really help Lev if he was able to play other agents on the same level of his sova.

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kalayav_n [#9]

skye? also hes a recon initator all he needs to know is the 3 basic agents skye fade and sova lol

i mean he also plays viper for the team on bind

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catNmouse [#11]

Chronicle:

10/10

His sova is actually genuinely very impressive, which is not surprising considering it’s his best and most played agent, the darts he were throwing in their sunset games gave so much value, he also plays breach, skye and kayo and he’s no slouch on those either

PROS: Immaculate initiator utility usage, willing to play any agent for the team and fill in that role if needed, can go berserk at times like the game vs G2 two days ago

CONS: When the team is struggling like really hard (no come backs and shit) he becomes the biggest liability and drops stinkers in those situations, not the best aimer

Flexibility: 8/10 (can play sage, viper, cypher, omen, brimstone, hell even raze since he played it vs loud at lock in)

still love c0m tho hes goated, chronicle just came to mind when i saw this thread

10/10 isn't achievable, there is always improvement but yes i agree. also flexibility 10/10 is insane, not even forsaken has 10/10 but yeah one of the best ini's

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AltonBu02 [#13]

I mean he can play it, but it's been a while since he has. My main point is that his sova is super cracked, but he lacks the same impact on other agents and I think it would really help Lev if he was able to play other agents on the same level of his sova.

did you not watch his fade vs TH bruh....?

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catNmouse [#6]

the only flashy initiator i can think of is leo tbh lol

chronicle when he’s feeling is fucking insane so i have to include him with leo too

nobody too. he would fucking KILL people on fracture it was insane

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woudint say non flashy aim is a con

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kalayav_n
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smthlikeyou11 [#18]

woudint say non flashy aim is a con

true

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kalayav_n [#15]

10/10 isn't achievable, there is always improvement but yes i agree. also flexibility 10/10 is insane, not even forsaken has 10/10 but yeah one of the best ini's

yea you have a point, just that chronicles agent flexibility brings him up higher than c0ms rating that’s why

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Lucrix [#17]

nobody too. he would fucking KILL people on fracture it was insane

that one round vs loud… ☠️

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kalayav_n [#16]

did you not watch his fade vs TH bruh....?

its fine, his util is still good on fade. But he has better util on sova and is able to frag much more on sova as well.

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catNmouse [#21]

that one round vs loud… ☠️

i miss fracture

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kalayav_n
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catNmouse [#20]

yea you have a point, just that chronicles agent flexibility brings him up higher than c0ms rating that’s why

yeah but its not a 10/10... maybe 5.5/10 or something. 10/10 flexibility is left for the flex's

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Trent

8/10

Pros: Carry potential, not a baiter, good in the clutch, insane at sova ulting

Cons: too aggressive for his team’s playstyle, very inconsistent now

Flexibility: 8/10, can play all initiators except KAYO + can also play viper and raze

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JonahPork [#25]

Trent

8/10

Pros: Carry potential, not a baiter, good in the clutch, insane at sova ulting

Cons: too aggressive for his team’s playstyle, very inconsistent now

Flexibility: 8/10, can play all initiators except KAYO + can also play viper and raze

they need to go back to a faster paced play style in the off season

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kalayav_n [#12]

oo my goat shao, i loved watching him in NAVI. i feel him on controller is much better tbh but yeah hes one of the best ini's

He is good on controller but different(insane) on initi

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catNmouse
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spe4rch [#27]

He is good on controller but different(insane) on initi

shao on smokes is daylight robbery

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JonahPork [#25]

Trent

8/10

Pros: Carry potential, not a baiter, good in the clutch, insane at sova ulting

Cons: too aggressive for his team’s playstyle, very inconsistent now

Flexibility: 8/10, can play all initiators except KAYO + can also play viper and raze

Trent was very underwhelming this entire year

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nihso
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Sacy
10/10
Great utility, Great comms, Great mechanical skill.

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Lucrix
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JonahPork [#25]

Trent

8/10

Pros: Carry potential, not a baiter, good in the clutch, insane at sova ulting

Cons: too aggressive for his team’s playstyle, very inconsistent now

Flexibility: 8/10, can play all initiators except KAYO + can also play viper and raze

i miss 2022 trent when he fucking aimbotted those ppl on ascent against like xset or soemthing

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kalayav_n
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nihso [#30]

Sacy
10/10
Great utility, Great comms, Great mechanical skill.

rawr

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Eyedd [#29]

Trent was very underwhelming this entire year

It’s because the team plays too slow for him, they weren’t this slow when he was good. He’s always overextending because of their pace

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kalayav_n [#32]

rawr

meow

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