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us maths vs uk maths

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thanatos11

how does difficuluty compare between us highschool maths compared to A level/Advanced higher maths like what do you do in the us at certain ages

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What do you do in the uk when you are 17?

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idk abt UK but in US you can do summer programs etc. to move to higher maths or if you move later into the school year you can test into wtv subject you belong in

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Not all US states adhere to a national education standard, so there is no one answer

A lot of the southern states like Alabama and Mississipi score worse on overall education than Northern Mexico, while New England states like Massachusetts and Connecticut score higher individually than even the Scandinavian countries

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Aayan
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Tryeue2 [#2]

What do you do in the uk when you are 17?

From ages 16-18 you do A-levels. You can also choose to take Further Maths which is quite a bit harder

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math 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

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U usually start calculus in 11th grade in US

That is the start of advanced level math

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its US maths vs UK math. 🤓🤓🤓🤓

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Aayan [#5]

From ages 16-18 you do A-levels. You can also choose to take Further Maths which is quite a bit harder

Further maths is I believe very similar to the baseline syllabus for 16 year olds in india

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widepeepofrosty [#6]

math 🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢🤢

Shut the fuck up.

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thanatos11
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Yuuki___ [#7]

U usually start calculus in 11th grade in US

That is the start of advanced level math

here we start calculus at 15-ish but do you guys not take classes separately and not just as maths itself?>

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Aayan [#5]

From ages 16-18 you do A-levels. You can also choose to take Further Maths which is quite a bit harder

what is A level maths? like which topics are A level?

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Nachtel [#4]

Not all US states adhere to a national education standard, so there is no one answer

A lot of the southern states like Alabama and Mississipi score worse on overall education than Northern Mexico, while New England states like Massachusetts and Connecticut score higher individually than even the Scandinavian countries

Ok this is actually something that I never considered lol, it really opened my mind 😂

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Aayan
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Tryeue2 [#9]

Further maths is I believe very similar to the baseline syllabus for 16 year olds in india

idk I haven't the slightest idea about either of them

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Tryeue2 [#10]

Shut the fuck up.

math keke

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Aayan
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idkmanwth [#12]

what is A level maths? like which topics are A level?

here are screenshots from the Edexcel (the most common exam board) specification

https://i.imgur.com/VWPIkON.png
https://i.imgur.com/oRIZR4L.png

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bonkashi
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Tryeue2 [#9]

Further maths is I believe very similar to the baseline syllabus for 16 year olds in india

what topics do they do in india?

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thanatos11
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Tryeue2 [#2]

What do you do in the uk when you are 17?

https://www.advancedhighermaths.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/application/pdf/pdf/Course-Outline-Timings-F.pdf this is what we start at 16/17

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bonkashi
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Yuuki___ [#7]

U usually start calculus in 11th grade in US

That is the start of advanced level math

yeah we start it at the same time then, year 12 for us which is 16-17

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thanatos11 [#18]

https://www.advancedhighermaths.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/application/pdf/pdf/Course-Outline-Timings-F.pdf this is what we start at 16/17

wtf, I've never seen this before. 2 papers and 1 non calc paper at A-level. Are you in Wales or NI?

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Aayan [#16]

here are screenshots from the Edexcel (the most common exam board) specification

https://i.imgur.com/VWPIkON.png
https://i.imgur.com/oRIZR4L.png

oooh these are our 11th grade topics, 12th grade's mostly calculus are electricity and that shit

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thanatos11
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Aayan [#20]

wtf, I've never seen this before. 2 papers and 1 non calc paper at A-level. Are you in Wales or NI?

scotland - this is done over 1 year and both papers sat on the same day with a 20m break

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thanatos11
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idkmanwth [#24]

this is a single years course or two years?

single year

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Aayan
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thanatos11 [#23]

scotland - this is done over 1 year and both papers sat on the same day with a 20m break

oh damn, is it like that for all a levels?

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thanatos11
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oh damn, is it like that for all a levels?

im sitting chemistry, physics, maths and mechanics

chemistry and physics are just one 3 hour exam, mechanics is 2 hours 50 and essentially further maths. all subjects are done in 1 year and an A is same ucas points as an A-level a*

https://www.advancedhighermaths.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/application/pdf/pdf/2024-AH-Maths.pdf thats an ah maths past paper

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bonkashi [#17]

what topics do they do in india?

Math: ages-16&17(almost like a two year course)

Relations and functions
Calculus{integral, differential}
Differential equations{first order only}{we need basic knowledge of second degree ones for shm}
Probability
Statistics
Permutations
Complex numbers
2 d geometry{ studying certain curves in detail}
3d geometry
We have more for physics and chemistry but i dont really feel like expanding on that. You can search up jee advanced syllabus if you want more info.

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in terms of difficulty:
IB MAA HL > IB MAI HL > UK Higher Maths > AP Calc BC.
not really a fair comparison since IB Math AA and AI are 2 year courses

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Aayan
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thanatos11 [#27]

im sitting chemistry, physics, maths and mechanics

chemistry and physics are just one 3 hour exam, mechanics is 2 hours 50 and essentially further maths. all subjects are done in 1 year and an A is same ucas points as an A-level a*

https://www.advancedhighermaths.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/application/pdf/pdf/2024-AH-Maths.pdf thats an ah maths past paper

So you guys start university at 17? or do you get 3 years of GCSE's?

I did Chemistry, Physics and Maths and I'm shitting my self for results day lol

The papers look pretty similar to A-level maths, just with a bit of year 1 further maths, like matrices and complex numbers.

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thanatos11
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Tryeue2 [#28]

Math: ages-16&17(almost like a two year course)

Relations and functions
Calculus{integral, differential}
Differential equations{first order only}{we need basic knowledge of second degree ones for shm}
Probability
Statistics
Permutations
Complex numbers
2 d geometry{ studying certain curves in detail}
3d geometry
We have more for physics and chemistry but i dont really feel like expanding on that. You can search up jee advanced syllabus if you want more info.

this isnt too far from UK tbf

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Tryeue2
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thanatos11 [#31]

this isnt too far from UK tbf

Very similar but physics is a nightmare

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thanatos11 [#18]

https://www.advancedhighermaths.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/application/pdf/pdf/Course-Outline-Timings-F.pdf this is what we start at 16/17

the calculus and algebra is very similar to the a level course
matrices, proof by induction and complex numbers arent done unless you do further maths
single maths does have a lot more content than this though, you do statistics and mechanics aswell + more geometry to name a few

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thanatos11
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Aayan [#30]

So you guys start university at 17? or do you get 3 years of GCSE's?

I did Chemistry, Physics and Maths and I'm shitting my self for results day lol

The papers look pretty similar to A-level maths, just with a bit of year 1 further maths, like matrices and complex numbers.

you guys basically scrapped AS Levels but we sit gcses ( national 5 ) in 4th year, higher in 5th year ( as levels ) and advanced highers in 6th year, equivalent to a levels. although here advanced highers really dont do much and your entrance to uni is mostly based on your highers unless youre doing engineering, medicine, maths physics or chem. and u can go to uni at 16 if you really wanted to after your highers

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Tryeue2 [#28]

Math: ages-16&17(almost like a two year course)

Relations and functions
Calculus{integral, differential}
Differential equations{first order only}{we need basic knowledge of second degree ones for shm}
Probability
Statistics
Permutations
Complex numbers
2 d geometry{ studying certain curves in detail}
3d geometry
We have more for physics and chemistry but i dont really feel like expanding on that. You can search up jee advanced syllabus if you want more info.

pretty similar to a level, although no complex numbers unless you do further

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thanatos11
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bonkashi [#33]

the calculus and algebra is very similar to the a level course
matrices, proof by induction and complex numbers arent done unless you do further maths
single maths does have a lot more content than this though, you do statistics and mechanics aswell + more geometry to name a few

we have separate subjects for mechanics and statistics which i assume will go into more detail than a level maths, as our equivalent to FM, im only sitting mechanics not statistics though

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thanatos11 [#25]

single year

damn, these cover most of our 11th and 12th grades

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Aayan
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thanatos11 [#34]

you guys basically scrapped AS Levels but we sit gcses ( national 5 ) in 4th year, higher in 5th year ( as levels ) and advanced highers in 6th year, equivalent to a levels. although here advanced highers really dont do much and your entrance to uni is mostly based on your highers unless youre doing engineering, medicine, maths physics or chem. and u can go to uni at 16 if you really wanted to after your highers

Oh wow, I had no clue it was so different compared to England, do you have an idea of whether you want to go to uni or not? and if so, what for?

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thanatos11
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Tryeue2 [#32]

Very similar but physics is a nightmare

lol we have a project we have to do for physics and we were learning to use excel before summer and its so confsuing

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thanatos11 [#39]

lol we have a project we have to do for physics and we were learning to use excel before summer and its so confsuing

💀i just need to sit down and solve questions for hours on end

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thanatos11
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Aayan [#38]

Oh wow, I had no clue it was so different compared to England, do you have an idea of whether you want to go to uni or not? and if so, what for?

im applying for aerospace engineering and chemical engineering, im probably going to apply for aero at ICL and sit the esat for it but dont know if ill have the money to afford tuition + living in london
and yeah its accepted that advanced highers are harder to sit compared to A levels hence why we dont require A1s, our equivalent of a*, for university instead just an A

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widepeepofrosty [#15]

math keke

Reported for discrimination!

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widepeepofrosty
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Tryeue2 [#42]

Reported for discrimination!

noo 😿

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Aayan
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thanatos11 [#41]

im applying for aerospace engineering and chemical engineering, im probably going to apply for aero at ICL and sit the esat for it but dont know if ill have the money to afford tuition + living in london
and yeah its accepted that advanced highers are harder to sit compared to A levels hence why we dont require A1s, our equivalent of a*, for university instead just an A

I thought the Scottish government paid for all Scots to go to uni, even if it was in England? ICL is very very nice, I went over to their open day last summer, I'm doing Aero too, and depending on my results I might sit the ESAT too for 2025 entry. Living in London is expensive as hell though.

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widepeepofrosty [#43]

noo 😿

😹

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thanatos11
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Aayan [#44]

I thought the Scottish government paid for all Scots to go to uni, even if it was in England? ICL is very very nice, I went over to their open day last summer, I'm doing Aero too, and depending on my results I might sit the ESAT too for 2025 entry. Living in London is expensive as hell though.

nah its only for university in scotland - so ive been thinking about just doing my degree at edinburgh/strathclyde then my masters at ICL or ETH Zurich

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thanatos11 [#11]

here we start calculus at 15-ish but do you guys not take classes separately and not just as maths itself?>

you can take classes at community colleges or online to get into these higher classes in like 9-10th grade

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us math is so free i feel like im smurfing actually easiest shit ever

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