We're stronger together than apart, Americas as a region has 2 champs, 4 masters, and 3 top 3's
But if Lev wins yall better not pull no "nah fuck NA" bullshit cuz we carry yall 99% of the time
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I think both regions respect each other when it comes to Champs, the only shit talk might come from direct matches.
But that shit of the we carry y'all is just not factually true.
Sentinels the one that won a Masters this year had a Brazilian world champ in their roster and another one as a 6th player, both world champs.
LOUD accomplished being one of the most respected and best teams overall with a fully Brazilian roster and same come from EG which did the same with a full NA roster. OPTIC won their masters with a full NA roster as well.
Leviatán has one of the most stacked teams this year with a full mixed roster and KRÜ always goes to Champs with a full SA roster as well (they might get grouped again but you can count on their consistency of always making it).
Americas is the GOAT region and we own Valorant. Period.
Vyantic [#2]I think both regions respect each other when it comes to Champs, the only shit talk might come from direct matches.
But that shit of the we carry y'all is just not factually true.
Sentinels the one that won a Masters this year had a Brazilian world champ in their roster and another one as a 6th player, both world champs.
LOUD accomplished being one of the most respected and best teams overall with a fully Brazilian roster and same come from EG which did the same with a full NA roster. OPTIC won their masters with a full NA roster as well.Leviatán has one of the most stacked teams this year with a full mixed roster and KRÜ always goes to Champs with a full SA roster as well (they might get grouped again but you can count on their consistency of always making it).
Americas is the GOAT region and we own Valorant. Period.
I'm not talking abt Talent pool exactly, although NA's is definitely deeper (evidence in the success of our ascension teams).
But I think our talent pool is fairly close, I was more talking about the majors wins that I was using to exemplify how good Americas is. NA is all but 2 of those and is 2 of the 3 top 3's. But yes from player to player I don't think there's much of a difference.
PooFaceCe [#5]I'm not talking abt Talent pool exactly, although NA's is definitely deeper (evidence in the success of our ascension teams).
But I think our talent pool is fairly close, I was more talking about the majors wins that I was using to exemplify how good Americas is. NA is all but 2 of those and is 2 of the 3 top 3's. But yes from player to player I don't think there's much of a difference.
I don't think that Americas is better in talent pool because of talent itself but because of resources.
NA orgs have way more resources so it's logical that they produce more consistent talent, but SA gives it the spicyness.
Some of the SA talent is just built different (not saying they're better they just shine for their passion) if you know what i mean.
I agree, NA is stronger with South Asia
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Wait thats not the point ?
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Oh... Alright, joke aside I agree, if we look at LoL that is bigger than Val NA cant have 10 teams (so 12 it's dead) you have 6 or 7 and thats enough, and if we look at Brasil... It's even worst they have 3 teams that struggle, they have too many team in T1 and 2 teams might be enough. the only Amer region that deserve more spot is LAN, they have no representation since Lev and KRU are both LAS, LAN is in population bigger than LAS, and having a Bolivarian countries team and a Mexican team would bring more representation, more hype into LAN country
Anguibok [#7]I agree, NA is stronger with South Asia
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Wait thats not the point ?
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Oh... Alright, joke aside I agree, if we look at LoL that is bigger than Val NA cant have 10 teams (so 12 it's dead) you have 6 or 7 and thats enough, and if we look at Brasil... It's even worst they have 3 teams that struggle, they have too many team in T1 and 2 teams might be enough. the only Amer region that deserve more spot is LAN, they have no representation since Lev and KRU are both LAS, LAN is in population bigger than LAS, and having a Bolivarian countries team and a Mexican team would bring more representation, more hype into LAN country
The problem with LAN it's just orgs, i can't mention a single LAN org that is not just fucking ass and scumbags trying to get the bag out of any decent project, most LAN orgs are just like MIBR when it comes to actually investing in the scene.
I could say only Xolos E-Lazer (México) could be the only decent one but that's a huge maybe.
hunkkz [#9]I mean, Lev is like 20% NA anyway. 40% if we consider TEX as NA, and a little more if we include the assistant coach.
tex is american... he was born in the US
hunkkz [#9]I mean, Lev is like 20% NA anyway. 40% if we consider TEX as NA, and a little more if we include the assistant coach.
Tex has a Colombian gf, getting a Latina baddie as gf?
That guy is more NA than the entire Texas state my dude.
LMAO.
Vyantic [#11]Tex has a Colombian gf, getting a Latina baddie as gf?
That guy is more NA than the entire Texas state my dude.LMAO.
W TEX
Vyantic [#8]The problem with LAN it's just orgs, i can't mention a single LAN org that is not just fucking ass and scumbags trying to get the bag out of any decent project, most LAN orgs are just like MIBR when it comes to actually investing in the scene.
I could say only Xolos E-Lazer (México) could be the only decent one but that's a huge maybe.
Movistar R7 ? They would perfectly represent Mexico, maybe Infinity could be okay (Thats 2 teams that did good on LoL)
Anguibok [#13]Movistar R7 ? They would perfectly represent Mexico, maybe Infinity could be okay (Thats 2 teams that did good on LoL)
Yeah but that's on the LoL scene.
R7 is not interested on investing on Valorant.
Vyantic [#14]Yeah but that's on the LoL scene.
R7 is not interested on investing on Valorant.
They fuse with Movistar, I tink if you offer them a T1 spot, they'll come gladly
Anguibok [#15]They fuse with Movistar, I tink if you offer them a T1 spot, they'll come gladly
We will have to see when the franchising spots are picked again in 2 years, but i doubt it really.
Vyantic [#16]We will have to see when the franchising spots are picked again in 2 years, but i doubt it really.
I hope it will remain stable, best I can hope is -EG +G2, and one of BR team out, MEX or COL team in
Anguibok [#7]I agree, NA is stronger with South Asia
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Wait thats not the point ?
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Oh... Alright, joke aside I agree, if we look at LoL that is bigger than Val NA cant have 10 teams (so 12 it's dead) you have 6 or 7 and thats enough, and if we look at Brasil... It's even worst they have 3 teams that struggle, they have too many team in T1 and 2 teams might be enough. the only Amer region that deserve more spot is LAN, they have no representation since Lev and KRU are both LAS, LAN is in population bigger than LAS, and having a Bolivarian countries team and a Mexican team would bring more representation, more hype into LAN country
Add on : another market that could add 1 more team in Amer is... Oceania, since they dont have representation in APAC and doesn't count as an import on NA LoL, giving them one spot in Amer can work... BUt would be bad for viewer time
Hyssopus1 [#19]LEV is literally an Americas team, you can take LEV for yourself aswell bro we will never say SA CARRIES NA, because our roster has players from the entire Americas.
We are Americas.
Goated take
I don't think South American fans ever say fuck NA, there is just some frustration last year because franchising made us lose many of our teams for LATAM/BR.
But in any case, doesn't matter if it's SA or NA, in this sport we are united as the Americas region, let's go out there and stomp the rest 🙏🏻
Anguibok [#18]Add on : another market that could add 1 more team in Amer is... Oceania, since they dont have representation in APAC and doesn't count as an import on NA LoL, giving them one spot in Amer can work... BUt would be bad for viewer time
That's no longer true in LoL btw, they stopped this rule in 2023. Since then OCE players are part of SEA region in LoL not NA
Vyantic [#11]Tex has a Colombian gf, getting a Latina baddie as gf?
That guy is more NA than the entire Texas state my dude.LMAO.
That's why his name is SEX
regalicera [#22]That's no longer true in LoL btw, they stopped this rule in 2023. Since then OCE players are part of SEA region in LoL not NA
Ah, thanks for the precision, it remain a possibility
PooFaceCe [#5]I'm not talking abt Talent pool exactly, although NA's is definitely deeper (evidence in the success of our ascension teams).
But I think our talent pool is fairly close, I was more talking about the majors wins that I was using to exemplify how good Americas is. NA is all but 2 of those and is 2 of the 3 top 3's. But yes from player to player I don't think there's much of a difference.
Ascension may not be the most fair comparison because there's a lot of valid concerns that NA T2 teams get to scrim vs Franchise teams and improve whereas LATAM and BR tier 2 teams only get to scrim each other.
regalicera [#25]Ascension may not be the most fair comparison because there's a lot of valid concerns that NA T2 teams get to scrim vs Franchise teams and improve whereas LATAM and BR tier 2 teams only get to scrim each other.
That's definitely a fair point yeah
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